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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FAO Slowhands, and good afternoon,<br />
re <br />
<em>Memoranda: Parents Albert Williams born 28/11/14 </em><br />
Well done Sir for spotting that this &quot;11&quot; is in fact &quot;II&quot; aka February ! </p>
<p>Please can you tell me is this because you've seen the original document and the website BR is a Transcription error, or is it <em>just</em> a piece of highly commendable genius on your part !<br />
Either way well-done and thanks for sorting it out.</p>
<p>Also you posted:<br />
Name: John Charles W Philpot <br />
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1914 <br />
Date of Registration: Dec 1998 <br />
Age at Death: 84 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire <br />
Register number: 16B <br />
District and Subdistrict: 5241 <br />
Entry number: 290</p>
<p>Is it just a coincidence the dates the same or ???, amazing.</p>
<p>Please can you share your source for the above record, thanks. Sorry to no doubt appear dim but I' struggling to keep up and just want to learn</p>
<p>Best regards, Jeff.</p>
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<title>Laura Cissie E PHILPOT ( nee GRIFFITHS) 1913 - 2004 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Name: Laura C E Griffiths <br />
Mother's Maiden Name: Griffiths <br />
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1913 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester <br />
Volume: 6a <br />
Page: 821 </p>
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Name: Laura Cissie E Philpot <br />
Birth Date: 5 Jan 1913 <br />
Date of Registration: Mar 2004 <br />
Age at Death: 91 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire <br />
Register number: 20B <br />
District and Subdistrict: 524/1 <br />
Entry number: 197</p>
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<title>Albert James WILLIAMS 1895 Moorwood, Lydbrook (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Year:1895<br />
Month:Jul<br />
Day:28<br />
Parents_Surname:WILLIAMS<br />
Child_Forenames:Albert James<br />
Fathers_Forenames:John<br />
Mothers_Forenames:Selina<br />
Mothers_Surname:<br />
Residence:Moorwwod Coppice, East Dean<br />
Occupation:Collier<br />
Officiating_Minister:Jacob Wilson<br />
Event:Baptism<br />
Memoranda:Born 1895 Jul 2 Baptised at Reddings<br />
Notes:<br />
Register_Reference:D2598/3/5<br />
Page_Number:18<br />
Parish_Chapel:West Dean Methodist</p>
<p>Year:1918<br />
Month:Nov<br />
Day:23<br />
Grooms_Surname:WILLIAMS<br />
Grooms_Forenames:Albert James<br />
Grooms_Age:23<br />
Groom_Condition:Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation:Miner<br />
Grooms_Residence:Lydbrook<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:WILLIAMS<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:John<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:Miner<br />
Brides_Surname:SMITH<br />
Brides_Forenames:Beatrice Ellen<br />
Brides_Age:24<br />
Brides_Condition:Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation:<br />
Brides_Residence:Lydbrook<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname:SMITH<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:William<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:Colliery [Overman]<br />
Licence_or_Banns:Licence<br />
Date_of_Banns:<br />
Signature_or_Mark:both sign<br />
Witness_1:Ernest Smith<br />
Witness_2:Frances Harris<br />
Other_Witnesses:<br />
Officiating_Minister:G A Hopkins<br />
Event:Marriage<br />
Memoranda:<br />
Notes:<br />
Register_Reference:P208 IN 1/5<br />
Page_Number:197<br />
Parish_Chapel:Lydbrook</p>
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<title>John Charles Webb PHILPOT 28 Feb 1914 - 1998 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Memoranda: Parents Albert Williams born 28/11/14 </em></p>
<p>The 28/November was puzzling me, but now it is clear that the II is roman numerals for month 2 i.e. Feb.<br />
I wonder if Albert Williams is Lily Williams brother and named as a God-parent ?</p>
<p>&lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;</p>
<p>Year:1892<br />
Month:Aug<br />
Day:7<br />
Parents_Surname:WILLIAMS<br />
Child_Forenames:Lily<br />
Fathers_Forenames:John<br />
Mothers_Forenames:Selina<br />
Mothers_Surname:<br />
Residence:Pluds<br />
Occupation:Labourer<br />
Officiating_Minister:W E Seaver<br />
Event:Baptism<br />
Memoranda:Born 1 Jan 1890<br />
Notes:<br />
Register_Reference:P275 IN 1/8<br />
Page_Number:59<br />
Parish_Chapel:Ruardean</p>
<p><br />
1881<br />
John T. Philpot  abt 1843 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Julia Philpot  abt 1852 Weston, Hereford, England Wife Ruardean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Thomas Philpot  abt 1874 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Georgina Philpot  abt 1876 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 John Philpot abt 1880 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire </p>
<p>1891<br />
John T Philpot  abt 1843 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Georgenia Philpot  abt 1876 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 John C Philpot  abt 1879 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Leopold A Philpot  abt 1888 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire </p>
<p><br />
1901<br />
John Thomas   abt 1843 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Herefordshire  <br />
 <span style="color:#3c0;">Leopold Actice Philpott  abt 1888 Ruardean,</span> Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Herefordshire </p>
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1901<br />
John Williams  abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Selina Williams  abt 1857 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Kate Williams abt 1885 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Charlie Williams  abt 1888 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 <span style="color:#090;">Lily Williams abt 1890 East Dean,</span> Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Beatrice Williams  abt 1893 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Edith Williams  abt 1895 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
<span style="color:#f00;"> Albert Williams abt 1896 East Dean,</span> Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire </p>
<p><br />
<span style="color:#090;">Name: Leopold A Philpot <br />
Spouse : Lily Williams</span><br />
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1913 <br />
Registration district: Monmouth <br />
Inferred County: Monmouthshire <br />
Volume Number: 11a <br />
Page Number: 52 </p>
<p>Groom Surname Groom Forename<br />
Bride Surname Bride Forename<br />
District Parish Building Year Register Entry</p>
<p>PHILPOT Leopold Archer<br />
WILLIAMS Lily<br />
Forest of Dean  Lydbrook Holy Jesus 1913 1 346</p>
<p><br />
Year:1913<br />
Month:Mar<br />
Day:24<br />
Grooms_Surname:PHILPOT<br />
Grooms_Forenames:Leopold Archer<br />
Grooms_Age:25<br />
Groom_Condition:Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation:Weighman<br />
Grooms_Residence:Ruardean<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: PHILPOT<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:John (deceased)<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:Farmer<br />
Brides_Surname:WILLIAMS<br />
Brides_Forenames:Lily<br />
Brides_Age:23<br />
Brides_Condition:Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation:<br />
Brides_Residence:Lydbrook<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname:WILLIAMS<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:John<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:Collier<br />
Licence_or_Banns:Banns<br />
Date_of_Banns:<br />
Signature_or_Mark:both sign<br />
Witness_1:John Williams<br />
Witness_2:Gladys Harper<br />
Other_Witnesses:<br />
Officiating_Minister:G A Hopkins<br />
Event:Marriage<br />
Memoranda:<br />
Notes:<br />
Register_Reference:P208 IN 1/5<br />
Page_Number:173<br />
Parish_Chapel:Lydbrook</p>
<p><br />
Name: John C W Philpot <br />
Mother's Maiden Name: Williams <br />
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1914 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester <br />
Volume: 6a <br />
Page: 794</p>
<p><br />
Year:1940<br />
Month:Sep<br />
Day:28<br />
Grooms_Surname:PHILPOT<br />
Grooms_Forenames:John Charles Webb<br />
Grooms_Age:26<br />
Groom_Condition:Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation:Charge hand<br />
Grooms_Residence:Cambria Cottage Ruardean<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:Philpot<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:Leopold Archer<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:Colliery Weighman<br />
Brides_Surname:GRIFFITHS<br />
Brides_Forenames:Laura Cissie Edith<br />
Brides_Age:27<br />
Brides_Condition:Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation:<br />
Brides_Residence:Crossways Ruardean<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname:Not Known<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:Not Known<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:<br />
Licence_or_Banns:Licence<br />
Date_of_Banns:<br />
Signature_or_Mark:Both sign<br />
Witness_1:B H Simmonds<br />
Witness_2:G Griffiths<br />
Other_Witnesses:<br />
Officiating_Minister:G J[?] Hilder Rector<br />
Event:Marriage<br />
Memoranda:<br />
Notes:<br />
Register_Reference:P275 IN 1/26<br />
Page_Number:2<br />
Parish_Chapel:Ruardean</p>
<p>Christine M Philpot Jan-Feb-Mar 1942 Forest of Dean Gloucestershire, Shropshire, Herefordshire   <br />
 Gerald A Philpot Jul-Aug-Sep 1946 Forest of Dean Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire </p>
<p>Name: Christine M Philpot <br />
Spouse : Michael J Baldwin<br />
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1963 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Herefordshire <br />
Volume Number: 9a <br />
Page Number: 248 </p>
<p><br />
Name: Gerald A Philpot <br />
Spouse: Barbara A Tye<br />
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1968 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Herefordshire <br />
Volume Number: 9a <br />
Page Number: 252 </p>
<p><br />
Name: John Charles W Philpot <br />
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1914 <br />
Date of Registration: Dec 1998 <br />
Age at Death: 84 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire <br />
Register number: 16B <br />
District and Subdistrict: 5241 <br />
Entry number: 290</p>
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<title>Memoranda Baptism of John Charles Webb Philpot 12 Apr 1914 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your help, I think I will need to dig much further before this becomes clear.  I'll post back when or if I get to the bottom of it.</p>
<p>I think the reason for Margaret and Joan's Baptisms being private might have been because Margaret was sick, there's a burial record for her within a year.  There's also a christening record at the chapel for Joan just a couple of months after the private one.</p>
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<title>Memoranda Baptism of John Charles Webb Philpot 12 Apr 1914 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Record_ID: 118264 <br />
Entry_Number: 424 <br />
Year: 1914 <br />
Month: Apr <br />
Day: 12 <br />
Parents_Surname: PHILPOT <br />
Child_Forenames: John Charles Webb <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Leopold Archer <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Liby <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: West End Ruardean <br />
Occupation: Collier Weightman <br />
Officiating_Minister: G A Hopkins <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: Parents Albert Williams born 28/11/14 <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: 20812 <br />
Page_Number: 53 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydbrook <br />
Soundex: P413</p>
<p>Hi Rebecca, hope its not too windy where you are ?.<br />
As you probably know there doesn't appear to be a Baptism Record for Albert Williams on this site. I cannot find him on GlosBMD or FreeBMD either.</p>
<p>I would normally associate such a memoranda note as an indicator from the Minister that the child being baptised is born &quot;out of wedlock&quot;, with the true father being Albert Williams. However, in such an instance the Baptism Record wouldn't have normally named the Child's Father (Leopold Archer). Unusually (at least in my limited experience) the note names another child entirely from that being Baptised, and to make things curiouser &amp; curiouser refers to a later event than the actual Baptism. I can only assume the note was a later addendum ?. </p>
<p>Using the Advanced Search gives the following family group:</p>
<p> 118264 1914 PHILPOT John Charles Webb, Leopold Archer &amp; Liby,   West End Ruardean, Collier Weightman, Lydbrook<br />
 1032718 1917 PHILPOT Margaret Ivy, Archer Leopold &amp; Lily,   Ruardean, Miner, Ruardean <br />
 1032719 1917 PHILPOT Joan Edith, Archer Leopold &amp; Lily,   Ruardean, Miner, Ruardean </p>
<p>I can only wonder if this couple had &quot;adopted&quot; Albert Williams as well, does the name appear later in your tree at all ?</p>
<p>I've searched this site for this Albert Williams within the later Marriage Records, but all the possible one's I've found c1938 onwards clearly show a logical Groom's father and not Leopold etc.</p>
<p>The later Baptisms are:</p>
<p>Record ID 1032718 <br />
Entry Number 9 <br />
Year 1917 <br />
Month Feb <br />
Day 22 <br />
Parents Surname PHILPOT <br />
Child Forenames Margaret Ivy <br />
Fathers Forenames Archer Leopold <br />
Mothers Forenames Lily <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence Ruardean <br />
Occupation Miner <br />
Officiating Minister E Parnell Rector <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda Privately Baptized <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P275 IN 1/25 <br />
Page Number 2 <br />
Parish Chapel Ruardean </p>
<p>Record ID 1032719 <br />
Entry Number 10 <br />
Year 1917 <br />
Month Feb <br />
Day 22 <br />
Parents Surname PHILPOT <br />
Child Forenames Joan Edith <br />
Fathers Forenames Archer Leopold <br />
Mothers Forenames Lily <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence Ruardean <br />
Occupation Miner <br />
Officiating Minister E Parnell Rector <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda Privately Baptized Christened April 9 <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P275 IN 1/25 <br />
Page Number 2 <br />
Parish Chapel Ruardean </p>
<p>I wonder if the reason the above baptisms were &quot;Private&quot;, and at a different Chapel than before, was due to some social reason / peer pressure perhaps wrt Albert ?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I'm researching my family tree, and this website is such a help as most of my grandfathers side of the family lived in Ruardean and adjacent settlements for very many generations.</p>
<p>There is an unusual memoranda note on the above record which reads &quot;Parents Albert Williams born 28/11/14&quot;.  Can anyone suggest what it may mean?</p>
<p>It may be useful to know that John CW PHILPOTS mothers maiden name was Williams.</p>
<p>Many thanks for any advice you may have on this intreging snippit of information.</p>
<p>Rebecca Jarratt.</p>
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