Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Charles HUGHES 1869 Gloucester

Charles HUGHES 1869 Gloucester (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:33:08 +0000

Name: Charles Hughes
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1897
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 534a

HUGHES Charles
ROBERTS Elizabeth
Gloucester Gloucester St Catherine
1897
Reg 27 No 2
Entry 417

1891
Jos Smith abt 1844 Gloucestershire, England Head Wootton St Mary Within, Gloucestershire
Mary Smith abt 1841 Chiphenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Wootton St Mary Within, Gloucestershire
Charles Hughes abt 1870 Gloucestershire, England Stepson Wootton St Mary Within, Gloucestershire

1881
James Smith abt 1844 Barnwood, Gloucestershire, England Head South Hamlet, Gloucestershire
May Smith abt 1841 Chippenham, Wiltshire, England Wife South Hamlet, Gloucestershire
Edwin Hughes abt 1862 Gloucestershire, England Son South Hamlet, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Hughes abt 1864 Gloucestershire, England Daughter South Hamlet, Gloucestershire
William Hughes abt 1866 Gloucestershire, England Son South Hamlet, Gloucestershire
Charles Hughes abt 1870 Gloucestershire, England Son South Hamlet, Gloucestershire
Sarah Salter abt 1877 Gloucestershire, England Niece South Hamlet, Gloucestershire

1871
William Hughes 31
Mary Hughes 30
Edwin Hughes 9
Harriet Elizabeth Hughes 7
William Hughes 5
Charles Hughes 1
Birth

HUGHES Charles
HUGHES HUGHES SALTER
1869
Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 25 248

Marriage of Parents
HUGHES William
SALTER Mary Ann
Gloucester Gloucester St James
1863
29x No 2
44

Elizabeth ROBERTS & Charles HUGHES (reply)

m p griffiths — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:23:42 +0000

The Gloucestershire BDM - do also have the same service - I phoned (01452 425265) up for one last week, and it came in the next day's post - cost £9

Gloucestershire BDM

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

Spoke to a very nice lady, and gave her the reference from the Gloucestershire BDM site. She then phoned me back, on a secure line for credit card details.

Excellent service.

Elizabeth ROBERTS & Charles HUGHES (reply)

UNCLECHARLIE — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:57:05 +0000

m.p.g.

Thank you for your help!

The 1901 census record is actually my family.

I now need to obtain the wedding cert.This I will hopefully obtain from GRO once I have got the indexed refs.
[at least I think this is how one does it]

Elizabeth ROBERTS & Charles HUGHES (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:36:36 +0000

Gloucestershire BDM

Marriage at Gloucester St Catherine 1897

Charles HUGHES/Elizabeth ROBERTS

(the marriage certificate would give the name of the bride and grooms fathers)

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1901 Census, Gloucester, St John the Baptist, Ecc. Parish: St Catherine

HUGHES

Charles - 31, Wood Sawyer - born Gloucester
Elizth - 29 - born Mitcheldean (born c 1872)
William - 3 - born Gloucester
Edwin H - 1
Mary A SIMPSON, 35, visitor, born Gloucester

1891 Census, Glos. East Dean

Edge Hill House

W H M PHILLIPS, Head, 61, Mining Engineer, born Cornwall St Eive
M E - wife - 58 - born ditto
Maude M - 26 daughter, born Glos. East Dean
E Ivor A - son - 21 Student of Mathematics - born East Dean

Henry A A - son - 19 - mining student, born East Dean
Elizabeth ROBERTS, single , 19 General Servant, (Domestic) - born Glos. Mitcheldean (c1872)

???

FOD records - baptism at Drybrook - 14 October 1872

Elizabeth ROBERTS, father Albert (Coal Miner) and Emma - address The Stenders (which doesn't seem far from Mitcheldean on the map approx 0.5 miles)

1871 Census, East Dean, The Stenders

ROBERTS

Albert E - 20 born East Dean
Emma - 29 - born Mitcheldean
Clara - 5
Issabella - 4
Amelia - 2
Sarah A - 1

1881 Census, East Dean, The Stenders

Westbury on Severn, East Dean
Dockham

ROBERTS

Albert - 38 - born Plump Hill
Elizabeth - 25 born Mitcheldean
Amelia - 12 born Stenders
Edward - 9 born Stenders
Elizabeth - 8 born Stenders

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1861 Census, East Dean - Stenders

ROBERTS

George - 60 Coal Miner, born Ruardean
Hannah - 55 - born Abinghall
Albert Edw - 18 - Coal Miner, born East Dean
Thomas J BARNARD - son-in-law - 21 Iron Miner, born Abinghall
Eliza BARNARD - daughter - 25
Hannah E BARNARD - grand-daughter - 1 month, East Dean

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FOD records, christening at Abenhall - 10 July 1842

Albert Edward Lewis ROBERTS, parents George (Collier) and Hannah - residence, Forest of Dean

Charcoal Burners. - ROBERTS Edward c1945 (reply)

Jefff — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:38:31 +0000

This may have been mentioned in one of the prior threads...

By coincidence only last night I was once again browsing thro my newly "rediscovered" copy of "The Forest In Old Photographs" by Humphrey Phelps, there's a few photos of charcoal burners including Fred Faulkes of Flaxley c1912.
The text then states (no photo sadly);

"Edward ROBERTS of Gun's Mills was still charcoal burning with pits in Dean after the Second World War. He had also used portable metal kilns, but maintained that the old method using pits produced a better charcoal."

PS PERSONAL APPEAL !
If anyone has compiled an index of the subjects and people/place names in the numerous photos within Mr Phelps' otherwise incomparable series of books, I would happily contribute generously for a copy, please !. Thanks.

Charcoal Burners. (reply)

UNCLECHARLIE — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:14:44 +0000

Thank you for your interest in my query.
My mother was Beatrice May Jones [nee Hughes].born 1908
Her mother was Elizabeth Roberts born about 1872
Her father was Charles Hughes [Sawyer]born abt. 1870
she had two bros. William Charles Hughes b. 1898 and Edwin Henry Hughes b. 1900
All lving in Newland St.Glos.
All facts above confirmed by the 1911 Census.

Charcoal Burners. - ROBERTS family Plump Hill - prior thread (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:27:34 +0000

1911 Census, Glos. East Dean, District 17, - No. on Schedule 79

7 rooms

Charles Hy ROBERTS
Plump Hill
Nr Mitcheldean

Charles H ROBERTS - 54, Collier Coal Miner Hewer, - married 34 years, 10 children born alive, 1 dead, born East Dean
Sarah A ROBERTS - 53 - born East Dean
Edward ROBERTS, 18 - son, Coalminer filler below ground - born Plump Hill

previous thread

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=24516

Charcoal Burners. - ROBERTS family Plump Hill - prior thread (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 18:45:27 +0000

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=8833

1911
ROBERTS EDWARD M 1893 18 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
+others

1901
Charles Roberts abt 1857 Guns Mills, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah Roberts abt 1857 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Alfred Roberts abt 1890 Plump Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Edward Roberts abt 1893 Plump Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Lily Roberts abt 1897 Plump Hill, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Selina Roberts abt 1891 Plump Hill, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
William Roberts abt 1886 Guns Mills, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

Charcoal Burners. (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 16:03:50 +0000

It would be very useful, to start with, if you could give names e.g. your mother's birth name and date of birth, also her mother's/father's name. This way, FOD records could be checked, along with census and other records available on line.

Charcoal Burners.

UNCLECHARLIE — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:59:33 +0000

I understand that my mother,because her owm mother had died, was brought up by an aunt and uncle who lived in the Mitcheldean area or even Mitcheldean itself.The period would have been about 1909-1920
Her uncle was a charcoal burner who used to spend days away from the family home tending the `burning`.As I am not entirely sure of the uncle and aunt`s full names I am enquiring if there was a register of charcoal burners archived anywhere which I might be able to view.It is possible that the family would have been from mum`s maternal family of Roberts. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!