Forest of Dean FHT Forum - James PHILLIPS 1780-1856 -> Upton Bishop

James PHILLIPS 1780-1856 -> Upton Bishop (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 03 May 2012 08:13:10 +0000

Maybe the father of James 1812

Year: 1836
Month: Jan
Day: 21
Surname: PHILIPS
Forenames: James
Residence: Upton Bishop
Age_at_death: 50
Officiating_Minister: Theo. Prosser
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AD99/8
Page_No: 31
Parish_Chapel: Upton Bishop

Alice PHILLIPS 1790-1857? Kingstone HER -> Upton Bishop (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 03 May 2012 07:44:16 +0000

This Alice is James 1812's mother ( James is a son of a James)
Kingstone on the Ross to Hay on Wye road
near to
Bacton in the Golden Valley between Ross and Hay on Wye.

JAMES PHILLIPS
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Marriages:
Spouse: ALICE BAROLE
Marriage: 12 MAY 1808 Bacton, Hereford, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M131162 1722 - 1846 0991962 Film 6902171 Film
Sheet: 00

Year: 1840
Month: Dec
Day: 31
Grooms_Surname: TAYLOR
Grooms_Forenames: George
Grooms_Age: Full Age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Tailor
Grooms_Residence: Upton Bishop
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Taylor
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Tho[ma]s
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: PHILLIPS
Brides_Forenames: Mary Ann
Brides_Age: Full Age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: Dressmaker
Brides_Residence: Upton Bishop
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Thomas Palmer
Witness_2: Sarah Salonies[?]
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: J Garbett Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: BS26
Page_Number: 9
Parish_Chapel: Upton Bishop

1841
George Taylor abt 1821 Herefordshire, England Upton Bishops, Herefordshire
Mary Ann Taylor abt 1816 Herefordshire, England Upton Bishops,

1841
James Phillips abt 1816 Herefordshire, England Upton Bishops, Herefordshire
Allice Phillips abt 1791 Herefordshire, England Upton Bishops, Herefordshire

1851 Crews Village
George Taylor abt 1818 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Head Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Mary Ann Taylor abt 1815 Madley, Herefordshire, England Wife Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
George Henry Taylor abt 1843 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
James Phillip Taylor abt 1845 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
William Taylor abt 1850 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Alice Phillips abt 1787 Kingston, Herefordshire, England Mother-in-law Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Thomas Taylor abt 1837 Foy, Herefordshire, England Apprentice Upton Bishop, Herefordshire

Name: Alice Phillips ?
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1857
Registration district: Ross
Inferred County: Herefordshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 271

I wonder if she was 70 or 77 not 11 from Crews not Croose ?

Year: 1857
Month: May
Day: 21
Surname: PHILLIPS
Forenames: Alice
Residence: Croose
Age_at_death: 11
Officiating_Minister: H. Morgan Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AD99/8
Page_No: 64
Parish_Chapel: Upton Bishop

James PHILLIPS 1812-1886 Bacton HER -> Upton Bishop (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 03 May 2012 07:20:00 +0000

Thank you. Does Bacton come under the Dean ?.

No but am trying to find the link ! ...

There are Forest folk travelling to and from South Wales via this area.....

James PHILLIPS 1812-1886 Bacton HER -> Upton Bishop (reply)

dollymay — Thu, 03 May 2012 07:07:47 +0000

Thank you. Does Bacton come under the Dean ?.

James PHILLIPS 1812-1886 Bacton HER -> Upton Bishop (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 03 May 2012 07:06:28 +0000

1851
James Phillips abt 1812 Barkton, Herefordshire, England Head Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Eliza Phillips abt 1822 Kempley, Gloucestershire, England Wife Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
George Phillips abt 1846 Upton Bishop Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Henry Phillips abt 1847 Upton Bishop Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
James Phillips abt 1850 Upton Bishop Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire

1841
James Phillips abt 1816 Herefordshire, England Upton Bishops, Herefordshire
Allice Phillips abt 1791 Herefordshire, England Upton Bishops, Herefordshire

Year: 1886
Month: May
Day: 24
Surname: PHILLIPS
Forenames: James
Residence: Tan House Lane
Age_at_death: 74
Officiating_Minister: Francis T Havergal Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: BM26/13
Page_No: 7
Parish_Chapel: Upton Bishop

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A Possible to dicard ( Alice appears to be his mother) :-

JAMES PHILLIPS
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 09 JAN 1814 Clodock And Longtown, Hereford, England
Death:
Burial:
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Parents:
Mother: JOAN PHILLIPS
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
J138571 1714 - 1885 1040008 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Henry PHILLIPS 1847-1911 Upton Bishop (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 03 May 2012 07:01:07 +0000

1881 Tedswood Cottage
Henry Phillips abt 1846 Upton Bishop, Hereford, England Head Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Sarah A. Phillips abt 1859 Linton, Hereford, England Wife Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Nelson Hy. Phillips abt 1880 Upton Bishop, Hereford, England Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire

Year: 1844
Month: Nov
Day: 28
Grooms_Surname: PHILLIPS
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age: Full
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Upton Bishop Herefordshire
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Phillips
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: PALMER
Brides_Forenames: Eliza
Brides_Age: Full
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Barrows
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Henry Cole
Witness_2: Mark of Harriett Palmer
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: J Simons
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P125 IN 1/27
Page_Number: 40
Parish_Chapel: Dymock

1851
James Phillips abt 1812 Barkton, Herefordshire, England Head Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Eliza Phillips abt 1822 Kempley, Gloucestershire, England Wife Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
George Phillips abt 1846 Upton Bishop Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Henry Phillips abt 1847 Upton Bishop Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
James Phillips abt 1850 Upton Bishop Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire

1861
Henry Phillips abt 1847 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Servant Upton Bishop, Herefordshire

1871 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
James Phillips 60
Eliza Phillips 49
George Phillips 24
Henry Phillips 23
Eliza A Phillips 16
Thomas Phillips 12

1911 The Folly, Ross
Henry Phillips 64
Sarah Phillips 53

Name: Henry Phillips
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1911
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Ross
Inferred County: Herefordshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 555

Year: 1911
Month: Nov
Day: 1
Surname: PHILLIPS
Forenames: Henry
Residence: The Folly
Age_at_death: 64
Officiating_Minister: Rev O Dyas
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: Certified by
Notes:
Register_Reference: BW14/21
Page_No: 20
Parish_Chapel: Ross on Wye

Phillips of Upton Bishop (reply)

dollymay — Thu, 03 May 2012 06:59:44 +0000

It's still raining here in the beautiful Towy Valley Carmarthenshire.
I also have connections to the Pontypridd area namely the Merrimans of Ystradyfodwg.
My ancestors seem to be either Agri Labourers or Miners a hard life for both !.
Other names in my Herefordshire tree are Green's and Collin's and the furthest Phillips I have been able to trace is James Phillips abt 1811 at Bacton so still some happy hunting to do.

Phillips of Upton Bishop (reply)

Jefff — Thu, 03 May 2012 04:27:36 +0000

Glad to hear your enjoying your visit DollyMay !.
As you can imagine there are many examples of Foresters moving to and from the Welsh valleys either for coal or ironworking. My father's line are coalmining Jones' from Wales. Indeed as an apprentice metal-basher I went to study at Treforest near Pontypridd for three years in the 80s, are you thereabouts?. Has it stopped raining yet ? :-)
In fact it's a perhaps curious coincidence looking back, the "Poly Of Wales" had started as the Treforest Mining School, just as my previous tech college had in my home Forest town Cinderford. I had a good classmate at Poly who was NCB sponsored, goodness knows what line he's in now!.
AND I drank beer at the club my "ancestor" Tom Jones started his career in !

I must visit Ponty one day for old times sake, I'm trying to remember the name of the area up above the rugby ground where I lived, it overlooked old mine workings I think?, probably all landscaped now.

Happy Hunting !

Nelson PHILLIPS 1880-1965 Upton Bishop (1911 census) (reply)

dollymay — Wed, 02 May 2012 19:31:30 +0000

Hi
Thanks for the info, I was lucky to have lived with Nelson Henry and Nancy up until their deaths in the 1960's my Grandmother was their daughter Dorothy May.I also have the Phillips family tree on Ancestry but have found info on here invaluable.

Nelson PHILLIPS 1880-1965 Upton Bishop (1911 census) (reply)

m p griffiths — Wed, 02 May 2012 19:03:40 +0000

Well documented on Ancestry Public members Tree

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Here's the full census page on Ancestry

Nottingham, South Normanton, Alfreton

Living in 3 rooms

PHILLIPS

Nelson Herry - 31 - Coal Miner Hewer, born Herefordshire N/K
Nancy - 28 - married 8 years, 4 children born alive, 3 living 1 dead, born Staffordshire (nee NICHOLLS)
Alice - 5 - born Glamorganshire
Dorothy - 3 - born Glamorganshire
John - 1 - born Carmathenshire, Carmarthen

Nelson PHILLIPS 1880-1965 Upton Bishop -> NOTTS->Wales again (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 02 May 2012 17:31:26 +0000

Hi Jefff, having a grand time and tidying up many loose ends at the same time. My Great GrandfatherH was born at Ox Pasture Upton Bishop in 1880 but married in Pontypridd and all but one of his children were born in Wales.Their eldest child died in early childhood of Diptheria abt 1905 but I have never been able to find her birth or death records, I was told her name was Lizzie.

Last night I found this site and looked at the Parish Records for my Ggrandad and up popped the baptism record for Annie Elizabeth born 1904 in Pontypridd and Baptised at Upton Bishop -result :)

Year: 1880
Month: Feb
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: PHILLIPS
Child_Forenames: Nelson Henry
Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ox Pasture
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: Francis T[ebbs] Havergal. Vicar.
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Jan[uary] 4 1880
Notes:
Register_Reference: AD99/5
Page_Number: 43
Parish_Chapel: Upton Bishop

1881 Tedswood Cottage
Henry Phillips abt 1846 Upton Bishop, Hereford, England Head Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Sarah A. Phillips abt 1859 Linton, Hereford, England Wife Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Nelson Hy. Phillips abt 1880 Upton Bishop, Hereford, England Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire

1891
Henry Phillips abt 1847 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Head Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Sarah Ann Phillips abt 1857 Gorsley Linton, Herefordshire, England Wife Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Nelson Hy Phillips abt 1880 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Cecelia Phillips abt 1882 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Daughter Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Tom Phillips abt 1884 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Alfred Phillips abt 1887 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Nora Phillips abt 1887 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Daughter Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Harold W Phillips abt 1888 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Son Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Mary Louisa Phillips abt 1890 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Daughter Upton Bishop, Herefordshire

1901
Henry Phillips abt 1880 Herefordshire, England Boarder Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan

Name: Nelson Henry Phillips
Name: Nancy Nicholls
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1903
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 966

1911 South Normanton Alfreton
Nelson Herry Phillips 31
Nancy Phillips 28
Alice Phillips 5
Dorothy Phillips 3
John Phillips 1

Name: Nelson H Phillips
Birth Date: abt 1881
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1965
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Carmarthen
Inferred County: Carmarthenshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 308

Phillips of Upton Bishop (reply)

dollymay — Wed, 02 May 2012 17:24:16 +0000

Hi Jefff, having a grand time and tidying up many loose ends at the same time. My Great GrandfatherH was born at Ox Pasture Upton Bishop in 1880 but married in Pontypridd and all but one of his children were born in Wales.Their eldest child died in early childhood of Diptheria abt 1905 but I have never been able to find her birth or death records, I was told her name was Lizzie.

Last night I found this site and looked at the Parish Records for my Ggrandad and up popped the baptism record for Annie Elizabeth born 1904 in Pontypridd and Baptised at Upton Bishop -result :)

Phillips of Upton Bishop (reply)

Jefff — Wed, 02 May 2012 15:43:36 +0000

Welcome to this friendly forum and great resource DollyMay !.
We're so fortunate to have this great site, as well as the huge PRs database please take the time to search this forum (a great source of info in itself. Also via the search "boxes" on the Home Page you can search thro' loads of old photos, really interesting old Documents, newspaper clippings, e-books, trade Directories, memorial inscriptions, not to mention the fascinating Inquests & Wills section.

eg see these prior threads found by the homepage search engine for "Phillips Upton Bishop" may be of interest to you.
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=30346
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=34552

Plus a couple of Wills such as:

Details of Will

Surname PHILLIPS
First Name Matilda
Abode The Stores Upton Bishop Herefordshire
Occupation
Year Proved 1940
Page Number 371
Year of Death 1939
Month of Death Oct
Day of Death 1
Value Under £1194
Document Will
Notes _
Will Number Will_08163

And wrt brickwalls, don't forget the people of Dean have centuries of experience under-mining them or forging the tools to break through them !

Enjoy !

Phillips of Upton Bishop (reply)

ChrisW — Tue, 01 May 2012 21:33:01 +0000

Click away, dollymay! Lots more to find I am sure. If you get stuck you can always post a question on here. Have fun!

Phillips of Upton Bishop

dollymay — Tue, 01 May 2012 20:37:33 +0000

Great site. I am a very new member( abt 1 hr ) and on my first click on the parish records I was looking at the Baptism record of my G Grandfather and then the marriage record of his Grandfather.A brickwall demolished in one click :)