Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Isaac JONES/Elizabeth Anne MADLEY - nee ROBINS

Isaac JONES/Elizabeth Anne MADLEY - nee ROBINS (reply)

m p griffiths — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 17:58:18 +0000

'I think Lily was a daughter to Issac's first marriage, and then Harold, Reg, Sid, Alf, Dorothy (my grandmother born 26 September 1916)'...

1891 Census, East Dean, Joys Green

JONES

Isaac - 54 - Coal Miner, born Glos. Lydbrook
Mary Jane - 33 - born Mon. Pontyminster
Frederic - 12 - Miner - all born Glos. Lydbrook
Margret - 9
Harold - 3
Lily - 1

1901 Census, Lydbrook (no house name)

JONES

Isaac - 44 - Coal Hewer, born East Dean Glos
Mary J - 43 - born Pontyminster, Mon
Frederick - 22 - Coal Hewer, born West Dean
Margaret - 17 - born East Dean
Lily - 8 - born East Dean
Albert - 7 - born West Dean
Ethel - 5 - born West Dean
Stanley - 2 - born West Dean

1911 Wales Census, Upper Lydbrook Glos.(living in 5 rooms)

JONES

Isaac Henry - 54 - Widower - Colliery Labourer, underground, born Lydbrook
Albert Henry - 17 - ditto
Ethel May - Factory Hand
Stanley Wilson - 12 - School
Elizabeth Anne MADLEY - 24 - Housekeeper, born Walford, Ross, Herefordshire
Lily Margaret Jane MADLEY - 4 - born Lydbrook
Harold Henry MADLEY - 1- ditto
Isaac MADLEY - 58 - born Itton, Monmouthshire

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1901 Census, West Dean

MADLEY

Isaac - Widower, 48 - Screenman, above at Colliery, born Chepstow, Mon
James L - 19 - born Ruardean
Joseph - 16 - born Bilston, Staffs
Elizabeth 14 - born Walford, Here.

1891 Census, Glos. East Dean
Moorwood

MADLEY

Isaac - 38 - Coal Hewer, born Mon. Chepstow
Elizabeth Ann - 35 - born Pembrokeshire
Gath - 12 - Scholar, born Hereford, Walford
William - 11 - born Gloucester, Bicknor
Llloyd - 9 - born Gloucester, Ruardean
Joseph - 6 - born Staffordshire
Elizabeth Ann - 4 - born Hereford, Walford
George - 9 months, born Gloucester East Dean
William PHELPS - 24 - Boarder, Coal Miner, born Glos. east Dean

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1881 Census, Glos West Dean
New Road, Hangerberry

MADLEY

Isaac - 28 - Foreman in Iron Works, born Mon. Itton
Elizabeth - 25 - born Pembrokeshire
Harry J - 4 - born Glos. Lydbrook (Harry John - Gloucestershirebdm - mother's maiden name ROBBINS - Monmouth, Coleford)
David G G - 2 - born Drybrook
William E J - 5 months, born Lydbrook (William Edward Isaac - mother's maiden name ROBINS)

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FOD records

Marriage at Bishopswood
23 January 1876

Isaac MADLEY - age 23, Bachelor occupation: Hammer-Man - residence: Lydbrook

father: George MADLEY - Miner

married

Elizabeth Annie ROBINS - age 21, Spinster - residence: Bishopswood

father: Richard ROBINS, labourer

by banns:

witnesses: Lloyd ROBBINS and Emily ROBBINS

Whitehall Cottage Lydbrook ( and prior thread Cop Meadows) (reply)

unknown — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 14:22:19 +0000

Hi Slowhands

My family and I spent a happy couple of hours on cotmeadows yesterday (Sat 1st Sept)and were even able to find the footings of the old cottage where my Grandmother was born. Your co-ordinates were such a help, as I wasn't confident I'd find it again. Thank you once again.

Caron

Cot meadows, Lydbrook (reply)

unknown — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 14:09:16 +0000

Thankyou Slowhands, Lancaster & M P Griffiths for your kind replies. I've checked my knowledge against that of the family. My Grandmother's parents were Issac Herbert Jones (preacher at the Baptist Church) and Annie Elizabeth Jones (who was employed as Housekeeper to Issac when his 1st wife died, and later became his wife. I think Lily was a daughter to Issac's first marriage, and then Harold,Reg,Sid,Alf,Dorothy(my grandmother Born 26 sept 1916)and Hilda were all children to Issac & Annie Elizabeth, although I'm not sure I've got the boys in the right order! Issac and Annie Eliz. both died within 6months of each other approx 1922(Issac from asthma,Annie Eliz.from TB.I know they were still living in the house on Cotmeadows when my Grandmother was 4yrs old(so approx 1920),that another family lived in the other side of the cottage, and that a wash-house divided the two. My mother says she has heard my grandmother refer to the house as 'Whitehall',although she commonly just referred to the homestead as Cotmeadows. Thanks for listening! Caron

Whitehall Cottage Lydbrook ( and prior thread Cop Meadows) (reply)

Lancaster — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:59:35 +0000

Do you know up to which year your grandmother lived at Whitehall and her parents names? this would go a long way to filling in a big void in local history.Are there any known photo's of Whitehall?

Whitehall Cottage Lydbrook ( and prior thread Cop Meadows) (reply)

unknown — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:05:08 +0000

thanks for your help, that's great information and the location you sent is exactly where I thought it would be.
Many thanks once again

Caron

Whitehall Cottage Lydbrook ( and prior thread Cop Meadows) (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:06:39 +0000

The cottage where your grandmother was born was called White Hall or at least thats what we always knew it as. The Cot meadows extend from Bell Hill down to Probert's Barn lane and from the main lydbrook road B4234 up to Hare's Grove. I have extensive knowledge of Bell Hill and its inhabitants but know little of White Hall. If you sign in to Google Earth you can see clearly where the cottage was at the following co-ordinates.

latitude 51°50'33.43"
longitude 2°35'19.42"W

marked as Whitehall Cottage on 1883 OS map

prior thread
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=entry&id=29184

Year 1846
Month Mar
Day 29
Parents Surname WHITTINGTON
Child Forenames George
Fathers Forenames James
Mothers Forenames Hannah
Mothers Surname
Residence Whitehall Lydbrook
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister R.Davies Off: Min:
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P138 in 1/5
Page Number 90
Parish Chapel English Bicknor

Cot meadows, Lydbrook (reply)

Lancaster — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:50:57 +0000

The cottage where your grandmother was born was called White Hall or at least thats what we always knew it as. The Cot meadows extend from Bell Hill down to Probert's Barn lane and from the main lydbrook road B4234 up to Hare's Grove. I have extensive knowledge of Bell Hill and its inhabitants but know little of White Hall. If you sign in to Google Earth you can see clearly where the cottage was at the following co-ordinates.

latitude 51°50'33.43"
longitude 2°35'19.42"W

Cot meadows, Lydbrook (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:31:11 +0000

Is your Grandmother's baptism record on FOD Parish Records

???

What was your Grandmother's parents names? and where there siblings born before the 1911 census - as looking at Lydbrook 1911 - can't see an address: Cot meadows.

Cot meadows, Lydbrook

unknown — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:26:41 +0000

I'm trying to find my way back to cotmeadows where my Grandmother was born in 1916. The cottage is no longer standing, but my Grandmother was able to take me to see the location and what was left of the cottage and garden some 20 years ago.

It is somewhere on the hillside high above the Baptist Church and graveyard.

I think we walked diagonally left through several fields and stiles from the steps above the church.

Does anyone have any knowledge of this that may help me to find it again, or any memories / local history about cotmeadows?

Many thanks

Caron