Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Help needed

Help needed (reply)

sandra46 — Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:00:52 +0000

Hi I have found the marriage on here of james Hiatt to Mary Davies on the 11.6.1815 in Tidenham, would love to know the parents of James and Mary can anyone help thanks.

Henry Smith b1837 Beachley (reply)

Jefff — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 02:50:20 +0000

From this site's FoD PRs I see the parents died young, sadly:

Record_ID: 303385
Entry_Number:
Year: 1844
Month: Mar
Day: 2
Surname: SMITH
Forenames: Benjamin
Residence: Beachley
Age_at_death: 35
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: alias COLLINS
Notes:
Register_Reference: BT
Page_No:
Parish_Chapel: Beachley
Soundex: S530

Record_ID: 303379
Entry_Number:
Year: 1841
Month: Aug
Day: 29
Surname: SMITH
Forenames: Mary
Residence: Beachley
Age_at_death: 45
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: BT
Page_No:
Parish_Chapel: Beachley
Soundex: S530

Hence they will not be on the 1851 Glos Census.

Searching 1851 Glos Census for Henry Smith/Collins/Hyatt etc b1837
and William --//--//-- b1833
and Mary Anne --//--//-- b1835;

Here's William (and a Robert ??)

2443 1851 CENSUS HO107/2443 FF.0465-0481 ED.10B CHEPSTOW 2
Piece: 2443 Folio: 0472 Schedule: 031
Address: Beachley

REECE Matthew HD W 76 Shipwright MON Llantrissant (c1775)
SAUNDERS Thomas BL W 67 Fisherman GLS Tidenham (c1784)
SAUNDERS Thomas NP U 27 Fisherman MON Chepstow (c1824)
SAUNDERS Phillip NP U 20 Carpenter MON Chepstow (c1831)
DAVIS Mary SV U 29 House Serv MON Ragland [Raglan] (c1822)
TAYLER Noah VR U 65 Fisherman GLS Oldbury (c1786)
HIEET Robert LG U 26 Ag Lab GLS Tidenham (c1825)
SAUNDERS John NP U 35 Ag Lab GLS Bristol (c1816)
HIEET William LG U 17 Fisherman GLS Tidenham (c1834)

(BL = brother in law, NP = nephew, SV = servant, VR = visitor, LG = lodger)

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Mary Anne, as per MPG's post earlier:

2443 1851 CENSUS HO107/2443 FF.0593-0611 ED.4 LYDNEY 3
Piece: 2443 Folio: 0599 Schedule: 020
Address: Aylburton

YOUNG Andrew HD M 33 Carpenter GLS Tidenham (c1818)
YOUNG Eliza WI M 31 - GLS Tidenham (c1820)
YOUNG Esther DA - 6 - GLS Tidenham (c1845)
YOUNG Henry SO - 5 - GLS Tidenham (c1846)
YOUNG John SO - 1 - GLS Tidenham (c1850)
COLLINS Mary SV U 19 House Serv GLS Tidenham (c1832)
LANE Thomas LG U 30 Mason DEV - (c1821)
PHILLIPS John LG U 27 Butcher GLS Lydney (c1824)
JONES Joseph LG U 39 Forgman GLS Lydney (c1812)

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SORRY, cannot find a Henry under any surname ! Perhaps he's out of the County ?

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LATER UPDATE !
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Re aforementioned Robert c1825, here he is in FoD PRs:

Record_ID: 61034
Entry_Number: 530
Year: 1829
Month: Sep
Day: 6
Parents_Surname: HIGHATT
Child_Forenames: Robert
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Tidenham
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: Tho[mas]Thomas
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333/1 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 67
Parish_Chapel: Tidenham
Soundex: H230

I see there are other much earlier Severnside Roberts who may be ancestors, SEVERAL spelt Hyatt etc, but also see this odd spelling variation ?:

Record_ID: 186154
Entry_Number: 6
Year: 1768
Month: Mar
Day: 20
Parents_Surname: HIET
Child_Forenames: Robert
Fathers_Forenames: Daniel
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: S[on] of
Notes: Any abbreviated forenames have been expanded to the full name
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 33
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
Soundex: H300

Record_ID: 271245
Entry_Number:
Year: 1620
Month: Jun
Day: 5
Parents_Surname: HIET
Child_Forenames: Robert
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: [not stated]
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P83 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 39
Parish_Chapel: Churcham
Soundex: H300

SEARCH HINT for you Sandra:

I only found the above unexpected spelling variations while using the "%" wildcard character when typing the surname into the PR search page.

For example, just type "Hy%", this will find ALL the surnames starting "Hy....". Then repeat with "Hi%", then "Co%" for Collins etc. I think this is more reliable than relying on ticking the Soundex box. You can then quickly scan down the list of hits to pick out those most likely, eg Beachley area ones.

Good luck !

henry smith (reply)

sandra46 — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 19:06:24 +0000

hi im trying to solve my family puzzle, henry smith baptised 1837 in beachley to benja.min and mary. i cant find anything on him cant find him on the census can anyone help. im also looking for his sister mary ann baptised 1835 in beachely and william baptised 1833. the family wne tby the name collins on the 1841 census why i dont know. but i cant find anything on william, mary ann or henry

Benjamin SMITH Alias COLLINS (reply)

m p griffiths — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 08:18:09 +0000

It gets a bit complicated, as by looking at the 1841 census with Benjamin COLLINS (alias SMITH) and Mary - there is a Robert COLLINS aged 12 and Emma COLLINS 15 - and think these may be

Robert HIGHATT - christened at Tidenham 6 September 1829, parents James* & Mary.
Emma HIGHATT - christened 6 September 1829 (obviously christened together on the same day)

James was buried 21 December 1828

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There is a Mary COLLINS, age 19 Housekeeper at Aylburton, born Tidenham 1851 census

Benjamin SMITH Alias COLLINS (reply)

sandra46 — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:51:57 +0000

thanks so should i look for both collins an smith for details on his baptism and that of thchildren.

Benjamin SMITH Alias COLLINS (Use of Aliases) (reply)

m p griffiths — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:41:51 +0000

Alias (known by another name) was common, for whatever reason. I have HEWER alias RODBORN/RODBOURNE in my tree, which carried on for generations.

There are links by googling to explain the various reason. Trying to do the link..... but Google

Use of Aliases an Overview

https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Use_of_Aliases_-_an_Overview

Benjamin SMITH / COLLINS 1809 ish Tidenham/Beachley area (reply)

sandra46 — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:35:55 +0000

hi i have another mystery benajmin smith married mary highatt in tidenham she was married to james highatt first he died and she married benjamin. thanks to help on here i have found the burial of mary smith in beachley in 1841 and benjamin in 1844 it states that he was alias collins what dose this mean. thanks for any help

George Hyatt - Accidental Death ? (reply)

Jefff — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 23:07:47 +0000

Sandra,
I'm sure MPG would have done so, but don't forget to check the Inquests section of this site if a death appears at all unusual or premature.

Sadly in this instance George isn't shown, but there are twelve HYETT inquests listed. Admittedly none appear to be Severnsiders so perhaps not yours, altho they still make interesting albeit sad reading.
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/inquests/

However searching this site's PRs and Forum I see many HYETTs in Lydney, for example, which could quite possibly be related to your line, so yet another spelling variation to watch out for !

Mary HIGHETT-Widow + Benjamin SMITH alias COLLINS (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:24:54 +0000

FOD records

Marriage at Tidenham 29 April 1833

Mary HIGHETT - Widow

married

Benjamin SMITH

witnesses: ..... mbra JONES & John TYLER

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Children on FOD records of Benjamin & Mary

1833 - William (residence: Tidenham) father's occupation, Fisherman - Parish Chapel, Tidenham
1835 - Mary Ann (residence: Beachley - Parish Chapel, Beachley
1837 - Henry (residence: Beachley - Parish Chapel, Beachley

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FOD records

Burial at Beachley 2 March 1844

Benjamin SMITH
residence: Beachley
age at death : 35

burial

Memoranda: Alias COLLINS

1841 Census, Tidenham - Beachey

COLLINS

Benjamin - 30 - Ag. Lab - all born in County
Mary - 40
Emma - 15
Robert - 12
William - 8
Mary - 5

HYATT/HIGHATT/HIGHETT & Tidenham (reply)

Jefff — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:52:16 +0000

Hi Sandra,
just in case you haven't done so, I recommend searching this forum for "Hyatt Tidenham" or similar, there are a few threads which I suspect are relevant to your line. Hope this helps, Jeff.
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=search&search=hyatt+tidenham

HYATT/HIGHATT/HIGHETT - Public Members Tree Ancestry (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:26:22 +0000

'I found a baptism in Mathern of George HYATT in 1822 with parents James and Mary, I don't know if this is my George'

to re-cap

Marriage at Chepstow - 3 December 1843

George HYET of full age, bachelor of this Parish

father: James HYET, labourer (on baptism records of other siblings, James was a labourer)

married

Ann JONES, of full age, Spinster

father: Richard JONES, labourer

witnesses: Wm HOWELL - Amelia HARTLAND

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The 1841 Census for Chepstow with Wm HOWELL 30 (Rope Maker) is very faint, and Amelia HORTLAND 20 is living in the same household

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Couple of Public Members Trees on Ancestry

James HYATT 1790/1828* = Mary DAVIES

FOD records, James HIGHATT (age 34) , residence: Mathern buried at Tidenham 21 December 1828

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FOD records

Burial at Tidenham 21 October 1877

George HYATT age 55
residence: Chepstow

(appears to be a Fisherman - may be he an an accident? his death certificate would give more info e.g. the certificate would show, the Informant's name, address where the death occurred, cause of death.

Freebdm

HYATT George
Death: Oct/Nov/Dec Qtr 1877
Age: 55
District: Chepstow
Volume: 11a
Page: 3

hyatt/highatt/highett Tidenham area

sandra46 — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:07:52 +0000

hi i have just got back from chepstow where my hyatt ancestor was living from 1843 till his death in 1877. george hyatt was buried in tidenham why would he buried there as his wife and children were burie in chepstow cemetary. i found a baptism in mathern of a geroge hyatt in 1822 with parents james and mary. i dont know if this is my george as i found a james highatt marrying in tidenham a mary davies and also being buried there. there was no baptism of george in tidenham there were other children baptised to james and mary can anyone shed some light on this i cant find any info on james parents. so any help with this family would be great.