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Who managed what mines? (reply)

Dunc B — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 10:29:46 +0000

Excellent -thankyou

John William COOPER at Standfast 1911 (reply)

Dunc B — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 10:29:19 +0000

Thankyou

Who managed what mines? (reply)

MPGriffiths — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 08:03:02 +0000

When you click on the maps (Lloyds George Land Survey) website

Click on Square: 39 - then on Square 6 - at the bottom of Square 6 - click on the bottom to move along the map - which was Surveyed in 1878 and revised 1901, is listed Steadfast Colliery - disused.

Then click on Square 10 - which shows Parkend which is in the top left corner - and shows the village with the houses etc.

You can zoom in on the area (clicking the mouse)

John COOPER - has a Poor Rate Number of 1543

There is on the map red ink marks with numers and can see No. 1543 on the map which is a large building on a corner.

? Not sure how the numbering works and whether this is the correct house.

Who managed what mines? (reply)

MPGriffiths — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 07:25:44 +0000

If you Google

Lord George Survey of Land Values

(taken in 1909)

Search for Parkend : there are two entries for Stand Fast (word in separated)

GS/D2428/1/80/1 - Hereditament Number 1580

Place: West Dean
Income tax parish:West Dean

Occupied by:

COOPER John W (M)

People holding property:

Parkend Deep Navigation Parkend (OWNER)

PROPERTY

Description: house & garden

Address: Stand Fast, Parkend

POOR RATE

Number : 1543

Size: 21 perches

Gross Value: £4

Ratebale Value £3

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GA/D2428/1/80/1 - Hereditament Number 1581

Place: West Dean

Income Tax Parish: West Dean

Occupied byL JAMES, Arthur Hy (M)

People holding property: Parkend Deep Naviation Parkend (OWNER)

PROPERTY

Decription: house & Garden
Address Stand Fast, Parkend

POOR RATE

Number: 1544
Size: 21 perches
Gross Value: £5
Rateable Value : £3 15s.

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Standfast (Colliery) (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 27 Apr 2023 15:55:55 +0000

Standfast Colliery was active between about 1865 and 1875 in Churchill Inclosure not too far from York Lodge north of Parkend and Whitemead Park

Browse old maps at the National Library of Scotland web site

Gloucestershire Sheet XXXIX.NW
Revised: 1900 to 1901, Published: 1904

https://maps.nls.uk/view/101453679 Parkend village Standfast beyond teh top right corner just

So the Standfast in the Census is probably an area or a house that "took on" the Standfast name, the number of rooms may be a giveaway a large house of 10 rooms split into two 5 room units for instance. The census typically recorded family units rather than houses I understand.

John William COOPER at Standfast 19011 (reply)

Dunc B — Thu, 27 Apr 2023 13:52:28 +0000

Thanks for this.
My grandmother was Clara Irene b.1910 d.1951.
I have found out that the William Cooper who bought shares in the pit at Parkend and was colliery manager was the brother of Job Cooper and Edwin Cooper. It was Job Cooper who was the father to the John William Cooper in these records.
When my grandmother Clara (daughter of JW Cooper) and Grandad William Gwynne lived at Standfast with my mum there were only two houses at Standfast. I see although previous census records state that there were many more houses - does anyone know whereabouts were they?

John William COOPER at Standfast 1911 (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 27 Apr 2023 10:44:33 +0000

https://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=31096

1901 Parkend
John W Cooper Head Married Male 36 1865 Banksman pit Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Clara Cooper Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales
Arthur J Cooper Son - Male 13 1888 Office boy at colliery Pontrhydyrun, Monmouthshire, Wales
Edith E Cooper Daughter - Female 11 1890 At school Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Arnold Cooper Son - Male 9 1892 At school Parkend, Gloucestershire, England
William A Cooper Son - Male 7 1894 At school Parkend, Gloucestershire, England
Doris L Cooper Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Parkend, Gloucestershire, England

1911 Standfast Parkend, ( 5 rooms)
John William Cooper Head Married Male 46 1865 Banksman at coal mine Bream Glos Shire
Clara Cooper Wife Married Female 44 1867 - Crumblin Monmouthshire
Arnold Cooper Son Single Male 18 1893 Stone labourer Parkend Glos Shire
William Alfred Cooper Son Single Male 16 1895 Stone labourer Parkend Glos Shire
Doris Louisa Cooper Daughter - Female 12 1899 School Parkend Glos Shire
Eva May Cooper Daughter - Female 9 1902 School Parkend Glos Shire
Ivan Job Cooper Son - Male 4 1907 School Parkend Glos Shire
Clara Irene Cooper Daughter - Female 1 1910 - Parkend Glos Shire

1939 Standfast Parkend
Cooper Clara 1867 widowed

Who managed what mines? (reply)

Dunc B — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:16:21 +0000

Hi
Can you let me know what you have on William Cooper he was my great, great Grandfather. He had a daughter Clara Irene and she had a daughter Clara Irene who married William Gwynne who was my grandfather. My mum was one of the Gwynne sisters who lived in Standfast house then moved to Woodland Rise, Parkend.
I am trying to understand how they had the house at Standfast. I am working on the principle that William Cooper when he bought shares got the house at the pit, but as he died in 1895 not sure how Clara Cooper kept it.
Perhaps his will might bring something to light. Any info would be appreciated.
Thankyou
Duncan Burman

Who managed what mines? (reply)

obscurasky — Mon, 03 Jan 2022 01:36:54 +0000

I have some information about a William Cooper (d1895), who I came across during some research a few years ago. He was manager of Standfast Pit in Parkend, and a shareholder in Parkend Colliery. Is he a relative of your Albert Cooper?

Rgds, Alan.

Who managed what mines? (reply)

shepway — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 15:24:58 +0000

The following site may be helpful: Forest of Dean Coalmining

Who managed what mines?

Adelebrain2021 — Tue, 28 Dec 2021 16:19:29 +0000

Would anyone have any information on where I can find a list of mine managers from the Forest of Dean? My x4 great grandfather (Albert Cooper) was a mine and colliery manager in 1926. He lived at Viney Hill, west Dean (lydney).