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Matthew WITSON marriage 1845 !!! (reply)

jimashton — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 05:36:43 +0000

Catching up with entries made whilst I was away. I see I had got involved with this string earlier. I had Matthew Whitson & Hannah in my tree as they are the parents of James Whitson who married Tabitha Herbert who is related to me. I hadn't realised that Hannah was in fact Hannah Penn - also in my tree, she is the daughter of John Penn and Susannah Goode. John & Hannah had 14 children and one of them Elizabeth 1819 married William Harper having 2 children, including Jane 1850 who married Henry Read 27.6.1874 St Johns West Dean. Henry was the son of Richard Read & Fanny Duberley.

Jim Ashton

Hannah PENN 1824 Ruardean (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:19:23 +0000

Year: 1824
Month: Jan
Day: 18
Parents Surname: PENN
Child Forenames: Hannah
Father's Forenames: John
Mother's Forenames: Susan
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Ruerdean [Ruardean]
Occupation: Butcher
Officiating Minister: T. D. Fosbroke Min[iste]r
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda: 1824. daughter of
Notes:
Register Reference: P275 IN 1/7
Page No: 45
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

1841
John Penn abt 1790 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Susannah Penn abt 1798 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Penn abt 1825 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire
James Penn abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Jane Penn abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire
John Penn abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Joseph Penn abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Susannah Penn abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire
William Penn abt 1823 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire

1851
John Penn abt 1791 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Susan Penn abt 1798 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Edwin Penn abt 1843 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Eleanor Penn abt 1839 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire
James Penn abt 1830 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Joseph Penn abt 1831 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Louisa Penn abt 1837 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Penn abt 1833 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire

1861
John Penn abt 1790 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Susan Penn abt 1798 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Elnor Penn abt 1839 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire
James Penn abt 1830 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Joseph Penn abt 1831 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Penn abt 1832 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire

Matthew WITSON marriage 1845 !!! (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:18:22 +0000

Year: 0 [illegible, but known to be 1845 ]
Month: 7th Sunday after [Trinity]
Day:
Groom Surname: WITSON
Groom Forenames: Matthew
Groom Age at Marriage: Of Full Age
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession: Engineer
Groom Residence: The Forest of Deane
Groom Father's Surname: Witson
Groom Father's Forenames: John
Groom Father's Rank or Profession: Collier

Bride Surname: PENN
Bride Forenames: Hannah
Bride Age at Marriage: Of Full Age
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: Ruardean
Bride Father's Surname: Penn
Bride Father's Forenames: John
Bride Father's Rank or Profession: Butcher

Licence or Banns: [illegible]
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: Both mark
Witness 1: John Penn
Witness 2: Mark of Elizabeth Penn
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: Henry Formby
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P275 IN 1/10
Page No: 23
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

TINGLE and REED families Ruardean (reply)

jimashton — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 02:09:25 +0000

Hi Jangler

I have to apologise to you, I had not "sorted" the children of George Bennett & Margaret Craddock. Within my family tree software, you can add new children as discovered, but physically have to click on "Sort" to put them in the right order - I had not done this. George Bennett baptised 2.3.1721 is the first child, Thomas is the 4th. They had 2 Joseph's 1737 & 1743.

There is too much detail to add here, so I will email you via the forum, to get your address, then I can pass on the information.

Jim Ashton

TINGLE and REED families Ruardean (reply)

janger — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:37:51 +0000

On my family tree I have the first son of George and Margaret to be George born 1722 (you have Thomas) and I have only ten children. ending with James born 1741. Like you I have no further information concerning James 1741. Thomas and Lucy I have only 9 children, and did not realise it was his second marriage.

TINGLE and REED families Ruardean (reply)

janger — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:27:34 +0000

Thanks for the information you are correct in saying their is a link between us. George John Bennett was my grandfather and he did marry Barbara Whitson my grandmother. Both grandparents died before I was born.
Like you I would like to know why Barbara (if it is the correct one) was in the workhouse alone.

TINGLE and REED families Ruardean (reply)

jimashton — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:13:44 +0000

Hi Jangler

When you have a Family Tree approaching 17,000 people, you are connected to most people in the Forest of Dean !!

The James Bennett 1769 baptised 13.8.1769 to parents Thomas Bennett 1728/1796 & Lucy Hale 1732/1812 are in my Family Tree, but "connected" not "related". James Bennett 1769 was one of the 12 children of Thomas Bennett & Lucy Hale, with Lucy being his second wife. Their daughter Mary married Thomas Meek 1758, one of my 6 times great uncles. Two of Thomas Meek & Mary Bennett's children are connected to another posting; their son Thomas married Rebecca Vaughan and one their son's was Richard Vaughan Meek - see Jessica Meek archive posting, Thomas Meek & Mary Bennett's son Moses 1779 married Anne Brain, great grandfather of Jane Meek, see my "Jane Meek born 1860" posting.

Going back to James Meek 1769 he also had a sister Jane Bennett 1773 who married John Duberley, they were the parents of Fanny Duberley who married Richard Read as per my previous response to this posting.

The James Bennett 1741 you mention was the brother of Thomas Bennett 1728, father of James Bennett 1769. George Bennett 1693 & Margaret Craddock had 11 children the first was Thomas 1722, the last but one was James 1741.

Perhaps you can help me. I have no further information for James beyond his baptism 13.8.1769.

Perhaps slowhands can help me also. I also cannot follow Barbara Whitson. Is she the Barbara in the workhouse in 1881 and if so why, as her mother Tabitha (in my Family Tree obviously !!)and her sister Alice are with Tabitha's parents George Herbert & Sophia Grindle.
Did she go on to marry George John Bennett and if so, do we know who his parents were.

Jim Ashton

TINGLE and REED families Ruardean (reply)

janger — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 09:19:07 +0000

I have a James Bennett born 1741 with parents George and Margaret in my family tree.
Another James Bennett born 1769 parents Thomas and Lucy (nee Hale)
James born 1810 and James born 1842. I do not think there is a connection between us.

TINGLE and REED families Ruardean (reply)

jimashton — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 05:15:31 +0000

Hi Janger & Slowhands,

Slowhands almost got it right, but Richard Read (there are so many derivations of this name, but I always use Read) who married Sarah Tingle were not the parents of George Read, but they were related :
The parents of George Read 1828 who married Jane Tingle were George Read 1785/1851 & Ann Brown 1790/1869. The parents of George Read 1785 were Richard Read 1743 & Margaret. The parents of Richard Read 1743 were Francis Read abt 1700 & Margaret (first of their 11 children born 1722) 5th child Francis Read born 1730 married Jane Stephens and they had 9 children including Richard Read baptised 10.12.1775 who married Sarah Tingle 9.5.1806.

I have the parents of Jane Tingle as William Tingle & Elizabeth.

As slowhands may remember my main interest is the Marfell family and always follow siblings & parents of spouses - often too far for my own good - in this case George Read 1828 had a brother Richard Read 1814 who married Fanny Duberley 1811/1902, they had 9 children and I have connections from most, but primarily through their first son William Read 1839 who married Selina Marfell.

I am intrigued by your initial posting. I have a James Bennett born 1752 Ruardean who married "an" Elizabeth, they had a daughter Benedicta 1780 who married John Yemm, is there a connection here.

Jim Ashton

James WITSON 1845 Ruardean (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:56:09 +0000

Year: 1822
Month: Aug
Day: 18
Parents Surname: WITSON
Child Forenames: Matthew
Father's Forenames: John
Mother's Forenames: Sarah
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Little Dean
Occupation: Collier
Officiating Minister: John Morse Off[iciatin[g Min[iste]r
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P110 IN 1/5
Page No: 40
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

1841
Mathew Wilson abt 1822 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Name: Hannah Penn
Name: Matthew Witson
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 26
Page: 305

Year 1845
Month 3rd Sunday [in Advent]
Day 0
Parents Surname WITSON
Child Forename(s) James
Father's Forename(s) Matthew
Mother's Forename(s) Hannah
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Forest of Deane
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister Henry Formby
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes Date needs investigation
Register Reference P275 IN 1/7
Page No 133
Parish_Chapel Ruardean

1851 Upper Bilson
Mathew Witson abt 1823 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Witson abt 1829 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Witson abt 1846 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mor A Witson abt 1851 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Witson abt 1848 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1861 Bilson Green
Mathew Wilson abt 1823 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire Engine Driver
Hannah Wilson abt 1825 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Wilson abt 1846 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

Tabitha WHITSON (nee HERBERT) 1848 (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:18:10 +0000

1881
George Herbert abt 1822 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Herbert abt 1823 East Dean ((Coleford)), Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean,
John Herbertabt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean,
George Herbert abt 1868 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Westbury On Severn - East Dean,
Tabithea Whitson abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean,
Allace Whitson abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean,
Florance M. Whitson abt 1869 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean,

1871
James Wilson abt 1806 Upper Bilson, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Tabitha Wilson abt 1838 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Florance M Wilson abt 1869 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: James Witson
Name: Tabitha Herbert
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 303

Year 1868
Month Jan
Day 8

Groom Surname WHITSON
Groom Forename(s) James
Groom Age at Marriage 22b [?]
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession Collier
Groom Residence Littledean Hill
Groom Father's Surname Witson
Groom Father's Forename(s) George
Groom Father's Rank or Profession Engine Tender

Bride Surname HERBERT
Bride Forename(s) Tabitha
Bride Age at Marriage 19
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence Brierly
Bride Father's Surname Herbert
Bride Father's Forename(s) George
Bride Father's Rank or Profession Collier
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both Mark
Witness 1 Charles Grindell
Witness 2 Susan Herbert
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister William Barker
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P109 IN 1/6
Page No 224
Parish_Chapel Drybrook

1861
George Herbert abt 1821 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Herbert abt 1824 Collowfield, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Bitha Herbert abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Herbert abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Pamela Herbert abt 1855 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Susan Herbert abt 1846 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

Sarah Herbert abt 1791 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Widow East Dean, Gloucestershire

1851
George Herbert abt 1822 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Herbert abt 1824 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Susannah Herbert abt 1846 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Tabitha Herbert abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Dennis Herbert abt 1838 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Nephew East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Herbert abt 1789 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Mother East Dean, Gloucestershire

TINGLE and REED families Ruardean (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:05:30 +0000

thats right, I think this is the where the TINGLE and REED tie in comes

They are George's parents at a guess

1861
George Read abt 1828 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Jane Read George abt 1828 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Read abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizbeth Read abt 1851 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Hanah Read abt 1858 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Janetun Read abt 1855 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Tingle abt 1837 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Apprentice East Dean, Gloucestershire

Barbara WHITSON 1875 Westbury Workhouse (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:04:38 +0000

Thats roughly what the census entry says born 1874 (ish) therefore aged 6 or 7 in 1881

Christening record

Year 1875
Month Jan
Day 17
Parents Surname WHITESTONE
Child Forename(s) Barbara
Father's Forename(s) James
Mother's Forename(s) Tabitha
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Brierley
Occupation Engine-Man
Officiating Minister Wm Barker Vicar
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference PFC109 IN 1/4
Page No 43
Parish_Chapel Drybrook

Year 1869
Month Apr
Day 25
Parents Surname WHITSON
Child Forename(s) Florence Matilda
Father's Forename(s) James
Mother's Forename(s) Tabitha
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Brierley
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister William Barker Vicar
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P109 IN 1/3
Page No 70
Parish_Chapel Drybrook

TINGLE and REED families Ruardean (reply)

janger — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:59:18 +0000

Elizabeth Tingle Reed,s father is George Reed which is listed on her marriage certificate. The one you listed cannot be the one.

Barbara WHITSON 1875 Westbury Workhouse (reply)

janger — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:56:21 +0000

Thanks for the reply. Not too sure about this one, she would have been 7 years of age. Have you any other details. I know her father to be James Whitson.

TINGLE and REED families Ruardean (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:01:56 +0000

Year 1806
Month May
Day 9

Groom Surname READ
Groom Forename(s) Richard
Groom Age at Marriage
Groom condition
Groom Rank or Profession
Groom Residence
Groom Father's Surname
Groom Father's Forename(s)
Groom Father's Rank or Profession

Bride Surname TINGLE
Bride Forename(s) Sarah
Bride Age at Marriage
Bride Condition
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence Extra Parochial
Bride Father's Surname
Bride Father's Forename(s)
Bride Father's Rank or Profession

Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark both marked
Witness 1 Sarah DREW
Witness 2 James TINGLE
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister J H BEESTON - minister
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P275 IN 1/4
Page No 0
Parish_Chapel Ruardean

Barbara WHITSON 1875 Westbury Workhouse (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:44:06 +0000

1881 Westbury Workhouse
Barbain Whitson abt 1874 Forest of Dean Westbury On Severn,

WHITSON and REED families, posssibly Ruardean

janger — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:16:17 +0000

I am looking for the parents of Barbara Whitson, she was born in 1875 and died in 1944.
She married George John Bennett of Ruardean Gloucestershire.

Also the parents of Elizabeth Tingle Reed. Elizabeth was born in 1850 and died in 1921. She married James Bennett. All from the same area. Possibly Ruardean area