Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Thomas or William HERBERT

Thomas or William HERBERT (reply)

Jean Herbert — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 04:48:25 +0000

Thank you both for your replies. Our branch of the Herberts - in Yorkshire - stems from the marriage of Elizabeth Phelps and Thomas Herbert. They are well documented from that point onwards. My problem is that I found a marriage on Ancestry.com for Thomas Herbert and Elizabeth Phelps but on FOD site the marriage is for William Herbert not Thomas. Both the census returns and FOD marriage shows that Elizabeth was a Phelps and her father was John. So, still not certain which record is correct. (Typed for Jean whilst she is temporarily out of action)

Thomas or William HERBERT (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:39:45 +0000

Jean

If this is the same family ( from prior thread) the mixture of surnames suggests
Eliza was a Phelps perhaps by marriage who married Thomas H with a batch of children around 1874 ( Herbert Phelps) ....

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=2648#p2654

Elijah only seems to have a son Thomas born around 1850 - was he William Thomas ?

1881
Thoma Herbert abt 1850 Gloucestershire, England Head Normanton Yorkshire
Eliza Herbert abt 1852 Gloucestershire, England Wife Normanton Yorkshire
Elizabeth A. Herbert abt 1876 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Normanton Yorkshire
Jane L. Herbert abt 1880 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Normanton Yorkshire
Samuel Herbert abt 1878 Gloucestershire, England Son Normanton Yorkshire
Herbert Phelps abt 1874 Gloucestershire, England Son Normanton Yorkshire
Rosina Phelps abt 1871 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Normanton Yorkshire
Daniel Phelps abt 1860 Gloucestershire, England Boarder Normanton Yorkshire
Samuel Phelps abt 1858 Gloucestershire, England Boarder Normanton Yorkshire

Name: Elizabeth Phelps
Name: Thomas Herbert
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 381

Thomas or William Herbert (reply)

reporter — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:06:23 +0000

Could be? Any use?

1891 England Census
about Elizabeth Herbert
Name: Elizabeth Herbert
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thos
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Normanton
Ecclesiastical parish: Normanton
Town: Normanton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Sandal
ED, institution, or vessel: 14

Household Members: Name Age
Herbert 3 weeks
Albert Herbert 2
Elizabeth Herbert 39
Evan Thos Herbert 17
George Herbert 3
Jane L Herbert 11
Jessie Herbert 5
Samuel Herbert 13
Thos Herbert 41
Wm Elizah Herbert 3

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3744; Folio 162; Page 29; GSU roll: 6098854.

Bob Jenkins

Thomas or William HERBERT

Jean Herbert — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:52:16 +0000

1851 and 1861 census East Dean shows a Thomas Herbert born abt 1850 in East Dean. His parents were Elijah Herbert born abt 1820 and mother Jane born abt 1814.
His father Elijah died prior to 1851 (exact date not known).
I can find no baptism record for Thomas but have found those of his siblings Elvina abt 1841 - Lydia abt 1842 - Elijah abt 1849.

Thomas was said to have married Elizabeth Phelps in 1873 Jan/Feb/March qtr vol 6a page 381
BUT when I checked the FOD marriages I found a marriage for Elizabeth Phelps to WILLIAM Herbert, father also Eligha, same date of 1873.
Can any one please tell me if they can find a baptism for THOMAS Herbert
and which Herbert did Elizabeth Phelps marry?
If it wasnt Thomas, my records are wrong and need to be re-researched.
I would also like to know who Thomas married if it wasn't Elizabeth Phelps.
Also, can anyone do my ironing for me whilst they have nothing else to do.
(This message has been typed for Jean as she is temporarily unable to view the text but will be back soon)