Thank you for your reply..from your reply i think now that Molly Jameson Creed must be from a previos marriage that i have yet to find as everything else adds up perfectly..The oldest Margret is his fathers 3 rd wife so perhaps Robert got married 3 times as well as ive already got 2 marriges for him,,may look into the Jameson thing as that seems an odd name for a female...but it means she was baptised as an adult