Hi Jeff, thanks for the info, Albert was my great grandfather His sisters were Ellen, Lily and Agnes and Brothers John who married Phoebe, and Charles who i have very litle info on, Charles Hodges was b 1878 this is in the 1881 census living with parents William And Sarah(nee Manns), they married at Dymock in 1880 so Charles maybe a stepson to one of them being born in 1878 , Charles is about 13 years in the 1891 census no more info about him after that, he may have used the Manns surname i found a Charles Manns b 1878 Kempley mother sarah, just a guess. Paul