James GRINDLE married Matilda in 1818 (General)

by glenysgrindle, (5323 days ago)

I am looking for the parents of James Grindle or Grindell,who was born about 1793 in the Forest of Dean area. Married Matilda in 1818. Matilda's maiden name would also be helpful.

Here is what I have on the family background.
James and Matilda children I believe were: Sarah, Corneluis, Phoebe, Anne, Benjamin and David who was born 18, May 1824. David my great grandfather, died in 1901, married Fanny Ruck. Their children were: Alice, William, Ellen, Thomas, and David (grandfather). David Grindle born 29 June 1858 and died in 1949. Married Ellen Hunt 5 July 1886( my grandparents). Their children were: David, William (b.1888-died as infant), Laura, Alice, Elsie, Florence, William (my dad), and Winston.

I am also looking for confirmation that James and Matilda's children are listed correctly; any dates would also be helpful. Also burial places and dates for James and Matida and their children.

James GRINDLE married Matilda KILFORD in 1808

by Jefff, West London, Middlesex, (5323 days ago) @ glenysgrindle

Hi Glenys and welcome to this great site.

Nearest I can find from a quick look at this sites PRs is:

Record_ID: 100139
Entry_Number: 45
Year: 1787
Month: Apr
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: GRINDELL
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Elinor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 6
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 263242
Entry_Number:
Year: 1787
Month: Apr
Day: 15
Parents_Surname: GRINDELL
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Elenor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coleford
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 772
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 62358
Entry_Number: 354
Year: 1808
Month: Feb
Day: 17
Grooms_Surname: GRINDELL
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: KILFORD
Brides_Forenames: Matilda
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Jo Kilford
Witness_2: Martha Hale
Other_Witnesses: Thos Bond
Officiating_Minister: Tay[lo]r Matt[he]w Procter vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 119
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex_Groom: G653
Soundex_Bride: K416


I cannot (yet) find Sarah/Sara Grindall/Grindell/Grindle on this site ? HELP !


Record_ID: 31661
Entry_Number: 26
Year: 1813
Month: Oct
Day: 24
Parents_Surname: GRINDLE
Child_Forenames: Cornelius
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Matilda
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hundred of St Briavells
Occupation: Coalminer
Officiating_Minister: Henry Prowse Jones Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 4
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 12705
Entry_Number: 159
Year: 1820
Month: May
Day: 21
Parents_Surname: GRINDALL
Child_Forenames: Phoebe
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Matilda
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Little Dean Woodside
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: H. Berkin
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 20
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: G653


Record_ID: 13051
Entry_Number: 505
Year: 1826
Month: Jun
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: GRINDALL
Child_Forenames: Anne
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Matilda
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Little Dean Woodside
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: J. Herbert
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 64
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 31848
Entry_Number: 212
Year: 1819
Month: Apr
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: GRINDALL
Child_Forenames: Benjamin
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Matilda
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hundred of St Briavells
Occupation: Coal-miner
Officiating_Minister: Edwin Jacob Officiating Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 27
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: G653

And your Grandfather;
Record_ID: 12927
Entry_Number: 381
Year: 1824
Month: May
Day: 30
Parents_Surname: GRINDALL
Child_Forenames: David
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Matilda
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Littledean Hill
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: H. Berkin
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 48
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: G653

(SEE LATER).

John & Eleanor GRINDELL c1790s Newland

by Jefff, West London, Middlesex, (5323 days ago) @ Jefff

James' parents John & Elinor,
From this site's PRs:


Record_ID: 64954
Entry_Number:
Year: 1778
Month: Jan
Day: 25
Grooms_Surname: GRINDEL
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of this parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: EVANS
Brides_Forenames: Elinnor
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Of the parish of Newland
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: John Bennett
Witness_2: Robt Turney
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Griffith Davies Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AG52/4
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Lea
Soundex_Groom: G653
Soundex_Bride: E152

Is it unusual for marriage to be at the Groom's home Chapel, not Newland ?.
Why no parents ?


Record_ID: 100158
Entry_Number: 80
Year: 1789
Month: Nov
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: GRINDELL
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Elinor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 8
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 263494
Entry_Number:
Year: 1789
Month: Nov
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: GRINDELL
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Eleanor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coleford
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: Any abbreviated forenames have been expanded to the full name
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 792
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: G653


Record_ID: 263709
Entry_Number:
Year: 1791
Month: Dec
Day: 18
Parents_Surname: GRINDELL
Child_Forenames: Henry
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Eleanor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Whitecliff
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 808
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: G653


Record_ID: 264081
Entry_Number:
Year: 1795
Month: May
Day: 17
Parents_Surname: GRINDELL
Child_Forenames: Eleanor
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Eleanor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Whitecliff
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 835
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: G653


Record_ID: 264436
Entry_Number:
Year: 1798
Month: Nov
Day: 11
Parents_Surname: GRINDELL
Child_Forenames: Mary
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Eleanor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Whitecliff
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 859
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: G653


Record_ID: 100382
Entry_Number: 309
Year: 1798
Month: Nov
Day: 11
Parents_Surname: GRINDLE
Child_Forenames: Mary
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Ele[text missing]
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: date sequence is 1798
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
Soundex: G653


Record_ID: 264718
Entry_Number:
Year: 1801
Month: Nov
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: GRINDELL
Child_Forenames: Jeremiah Evans
Fathers_Forenames: Jno [John]
Mothers_Forenames: Eleanor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Whitecliff
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 14
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: G653


Record_ID: 100471
Entry_Number: 398
Year: 1802
Month: Nov
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: GRINDLE
Child_Forenames: Jeremiah Evans
Fathers_Forenames: Jno [John]
Mothers_Forenames: Elinor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: The year is brought do from missing text but dated nearest entries are 1802
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 34
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
Soundex: G653


Guess John Senior born abt 1758 if not before, but still uncertain which Baptism is his, there are three possibles from FoD PRs:

Possibility 1 ?

Record_ID: 166152
Entry_Number:
Year: 1755
Month: Jun
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: GRINDALL
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Whetham Hill minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 23
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: G653


Or Possibility 2 ?

Record_ID: 245372
Entry_Number:
Year: 1753
Month: Jul
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: GRINDEL
Child_Forenames: Jno John
Fathers_Forenames: not stated
Mothers_Forenames: not stated
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coleford
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: Any abbreviated forenames have been expanded to the full name. Father John
Register_Reference: P227 IN 4/1
Page_Number: 263
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: G653

NB: A John GRINDALL of Newland Parish married Mary Aston 24 years later in 1777, so perhaps this isn't our John.


Or Maybe Possibility 3 ?

Record_ID: 222472
Entry_Number:
Year: 1752
Month: Jan
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: GRINDAL
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: Will[iam]
Mothers_Forenames: Anne
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: John Lewis Priest
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of
Notes: Old style date 1751/52
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 87
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
Soundex: G653

NB: A John GRINDAL of W-o-S Parish married Margaret Gibbons 21 years later in 1773, perhaps this isn't our John either.


Conclusion:
From the FoD PRs, there's only one John Grindle(et al) Marriage in the right time era, and thats Possibility 1 above, so I think he's PROBABLY "our" John.

So James father is John b June 1, 1755, parents John & Mary:

John & Mary GRINDALL of Littledean c1760s

by Jefff, West London, Middlesex, (5323 days ago) @ Jefff

Record_ID: 166152
Entry_Number:
Year: 1755
Month: Jun
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: GRINDALL
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Whetham Hill minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 23
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: G653

John's siblings;

Record_ID: 166038
Entry_Number:
Year: 1746
Month: Aug
Day: 31
Parents_Surname: GRINDALL
Child_Forenames: Sarah
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Whetham Hill minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 19
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: G653


Record_ID: 166082
Entry_Number:
Year: 1749
Month: May
Day: 14
Parents_Surname: GRINDALL
Child_Forenames: George
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Whetham Hill minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 21
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: G653


Record_ID: 166120
Entry_Number:
Year: 1752
Month: Jun
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: GRINDALL
Child_Forenames: Richard
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Whetham Hill minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 22
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: G653


Record_ID: 166208
Entry_Number:
Year: 1759
Month: Nov
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: GRINDALL
Child_Forenames: Mary
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Whetham Hill minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: G653


??
Record_ID: 184800
Entry_Number:
Year: 1778
Month: Aug
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: GRINDLE
Child_Forenames: Sarah
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Benjamin Webb Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 34
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: G653

Best match from FoD PRs for Marriage wrt names but perhaps far too early ? Unlikely ?:

Record_ID: 55745
Entry_Number:
Year: 1723
Month: Oct
Day: 1
Grooms_Surname: GRINDALL
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of Gloucester City
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: BARNARD
Brides_Forenames: Mariam
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of the same
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns:
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark:
Witness_1:
Witness_2:
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Wall Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: In Latin Johem and Mariam Mariam may be a form of Mary
Register_Reference: P210 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 53
Parish_Chapel: Maisemore
Soundex_Groom: G653
Soundex_Bride: B656

Eleanor GRINDALL nee Evans b abt 1789

by Jefff, West London, Middlesex, (5323 days ago) @ Jefff

Record_ID: 19058
Entry_Number: 299
Year: 1858
Month: Jan
Day: 3
Surname: GRINDALL
Forenames: Eleanor
Residence: East Dean
Age_at_death: 69
Officiating_Minister: John J. Hedges
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes: Text in margin illegible
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/12
Page_No: 38
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: G653

So born abt 1789, now in Newland Parish.


From FoD PRs, POSSIBLE Baptisms may be:


Record_ID: 311718
Entry_Number:
Year: 1775
Month: Jan
Day: 29
Parents_Surname: EVANS
Child_Forenames: Elianor
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Elianor
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Samuel Sergeant
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P246 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 82
Parish_Chapel: Pauntley
Soundex: E152

OR

Record_ID: 173001
Entry_Number:
Year: 1797
Month: Mar
Day: 11
Parents_Surname: EVANS
Child_Forenames: Elianor
Fathers_Forenames: Evan
Mothers_Forenames: Martha
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s Davies Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P241 IN 1/3
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Oxenhall
Soundex: E152

OR


Record_ID: 218420
Entry_Number: 413
Year: 1800
Month: Aug
Day: 24
Parents_Surname: EVANS
Child_Forenames: Elinor
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s Edmunds Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 16
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels
Soundex: E152

OR


Record_ID: 1043895
Entry_Number: 554
Year: 1807
Month: Jul
Day: 13
Parents_Surname: EVANS
Child_Forenames: Eleanor
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Anne
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Closeturff[sic]
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s Thomas Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 21
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels
Soundex: E152


OR EVEN ???

Cornelius & Dinah GRINDLE c1860s Cinderford St John.

by Jefff, West London, Middlesex, (5323 days ago) @ Jefff

Record_ID: 357
Entry_Number: 18
Year: 1837
Month: Dec
Day: 23
Grooms_Surname: GRINDALL
Grooms_Forenames: Cornelius
Grooms_Age: Of full age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Little Dean Hill
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Grindall
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: FORD
Brides_Forenames: Dinah
Brides_Age: 18
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Forest of Dean
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Ford
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Samuel
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Sawyer
Licence_or_Banns: Not stated
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: James Cook
Witness_2: Hannah Cook
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: James Davies Rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 9
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall
Soundex_Groom: G653
Soundex_Bride: F630

(NB: Dinah aged 18 in 1837 so born abt 1819)


Record_ID: 7051
Entry_Number: 504
Year: 1853
Month: Dec
Day: 25
Parents_Surname: GRINDLE
Child_Forenames: Cornelius
Fathers_Forenames: Cornelius
Mothers_Forenames: Dinah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bilson Green
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: J G Smythies
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 63
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 7125
Entry_Number: 576
Year: 1854
Month: Nov
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: GRINDLE
Child_Forenames: Dinah
Fathers_Forenames: Cornelius
Mothers_Forenames: Dinah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bilson Green
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: Will[iam] Duckett [illegible]
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 72
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 4617
Entry_Number: 82
Year: 1872
Month: Jun
Day: 10
Grooms_Surname: TINGLE
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: 21
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Little Dean Hill
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Tingle
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Mark
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Blacksmith
Brides_Surname: GRINDLE
Brides_Forenames: Dinah
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Little Dean Hill
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Grindle
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Cornelius
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign
Witness_1: Mark of William Morgan
Witness_2: Mark of Martha Morgan
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Samuel Walker Offi[ciatin]g Minister
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 41
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex_Groom: T524
Soundex_Bride: G653

Cannot find Burial Record for Cornelius Snr on FoD or GlosBMD or FreeBMD or Latterday Saints.


Record_ID: 6574
Entry_Number: 1139
Year: 1907
Month: Apr
Day: 25
Surname: GRINDLE
Forenames: Dinah
Residence: Church Road
Age_at_death: 63 years
Officiating_Minister: [not stated]
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: Certified by Joseph Grindle
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/14
Page_No: 144
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: G653

NB: aged 63 in 1907 so born abt 1844, but Marriage Record says born 1819 !?
Is this Dinah Jr ? Dates still odd !

Record_ID: 6559
Entry_Number: 17
Year: 1844
Month: Aug
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: GRINDAL
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: Cornelius
Mothers_Forenames: Dina
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woodside
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: J G Smythies
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 3
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 6632
Entry_Number: 90
Year: 1846
Month: Jun
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: GRINDLE
Child_Forenames: George
Fathers_Forenames: Cornelius
Mothers_Forenames: Dinah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bilson Green
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: J G Smythies
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 12
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 6707
Entry_Number: 165
Year: 1847
Month: Dec
Day: 26
Parents_Surname: GRINDLE
Child_Forenames: Mary Ann
Fathers_Forenames: Cornelius
Mothers_Forenames: Dinah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bilson Green
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: J G Smythies
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 21
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: G653

Record_ID: 6777
Entry_Number: 235
Year: 1849
Month: Jun
Day: 6
Parents_Surname: GRINDLE
Child_Forenames: Charles
Fathers_Forenames: Nelius
Mothers_Forenames: Dinah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bilson Green
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: J G Smythies
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 30
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: G653

NOTE: I HAVEN'T FINISHED THIS GROUP YET !

Matilda KILFORD b 1788 Littledean

by Jefff, West London, Middlesex, (5323 days ago) @ Jefff

Record_ID: 185003
Entry_Number:
Year: 1788
Month: Aug
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: KILFORD
Child_Forenames: Matilda
Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Wm Fryer Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 2
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: K416

KILFORD, another new surname to me, yet this site has 98 Kilford PRs with many from Littledean area (Flaxley etc), shows what little I know !. Just SOME of these are:


Record_ID: 79877
Entry_Number: 62
Year: 1755
Month: Feb
Day: 15
Parents_Surname: KILFORD
Child_Forenames: Joseph
Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Mothers_Forenames: Jane
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 4
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
Soundex: K416

Record_ID: 18223
Entry_Number: 264
Year: 1825
Month: Apr
Day: 27
Surname: KILFORD
Forenames: Joseph
Residence: L[ittle] Dean
Age_at_death: 72
Officiating_Minister: J. D. Oshehan Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death: [not sta
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/11
Page_No: 33
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: K416

Record_ID: 18291
Entry_Number: 1
Year: 1754
Month: Apr
Day: 10
Grooms_Surname: KILFORD
Grooms_Forenames: Joseph
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Of this Parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: TAYLOR
Brides_Forenames: Jane
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Of this Parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Signed
Witness_1: Toby Cowles
Witness_2: [No 2nd Witness]
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: J Lewis Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: With Consent of Parents
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 1
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
Soundex_Groom: K416
Soundex_Bride: T460

Record_ID: 220653
Entry_Number:
Year: 1700
Month: Jul
Day: 15
Parents_Surname: TAYLOR
Child_Forenames: Jane
Fathers_Forenames: Rich[ard]
Mothers_Forenames: Eliz[abeth]
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: [not stated]
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Dau of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 45
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
Soundex: T460

Record_ID: 59143
Entry_Number: 1071
Year: 1789
Month: Nov
Day: 16
Surname: KILFORD
Forenames: Jane
Residence:
Age_at_death:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: Wife of Joseph
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/3
Page_No: 132
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
Soundex: K416

There are many more Kilfords listed on this site's PRs, FoD FH, no doubt related.

David GRINDLE married Fanny RUCK in 1853

by Jefff, West London, Middlesex, (5323 days ago) @ Jefff

Record_ID: 12927
Entry_Number: 381
Year: 1824
Month: May
Day: 30
Parents_Surname: GRINDALL
Child_Forenames: David
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Matilda
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Littledean Hill
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: H. Berkin
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 48
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: G653


From GlosBMD working from Fanny Ruck found:

Marriage Details
Number of entries matching criteria entered: 1

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
GRENDLE David RUCK Fanny Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office 1853 1 155

(Which explains why I couldn't find in FoD PRs).


PROBABLE ? matches David wrt age, residence/chapel locations;

Record_ID: 13266
Entry_Number: 720
Year: 1829
Month: Mar
Day: 15
Parents_Surname: RUCK
Child_Forenames: Fanny
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Little dean hill
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: J. Chell
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 90
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: R200


Record_ID: 122677
Entry_Number: 221
Year: 1811
Month: Nov
Day: 25
Grooms_Surname: RUCK
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: this Parish [Littledean]
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: OKEY
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: this Parish [Littledean]
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: 1811 Oct 27 Nov 3 & 10
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: John Green
Witness_2: Mark of Jane Trigge
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Robert Napier Raikes Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 65
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex_Groom: R200
Soundex_Bride: O200


Record_ID: 6197
Entry_Number: 779
Year: 1901
Month: Aug
Day: 6
Surname: GRINDLE
Forenames: David
Residence: Cinderford
Age_at_death: 77 years
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/14
Page_No: 99
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: G653

Cannot find certain Burial R for Fanny, but this seems probable albeit sad:

Record_ID: 6757
Entry_Number: 1322
Year: 1909
Month: Dec
Day: 29
Surname: GRINDLE
Forenames: Fanny
Residence: Workhouse Westbury
Age_at_death: 82 years
Officiating_Minister: F. W. Baldwin Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/14
Page_No: 167
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: G653

THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF GRINDLES IN THE FOREST !

by Jefff, West London, Middlesex, (5323 days ago) @ Jefff

NO WONDER THEY STARTED THEIR OWN COACH FIRMS... !!

NOT FINISHED, TO BE CONTINUED TOMORROW, NEED A BREAK, HEAD SPINNING,
GRINDLE OVERLOAD !

I'LL TIDY IT UP (A LOT!) TOMORROW !.

GOODNIGHT !

Take it easy!

by admin ⌂, Forest of Dean, (5323 days ago) @ Jefff

NOT FINISHED, TO BE CONTINUED TOMORROW, NEED A BREAK, HEAD SPINNING

Take it easy! Sometimes, it is a case that we can't see the forest for the trees

Grindles

by glenysgrindle, (5322 days ago) @ Jefff

Thanks so much for all of your help. I have added one generation and some children from previous ones.

B.W.

Glenys

John Grindall

by glenysk, (4266 days ago) @ Jefff

I am looking for Father and Mother, grandparents, etc. of John Grindall(Grindle) Baptism 1 June 1755 Littledean Chapel. Most of all my family was from Little Dean, Cinderford area.

Can you help?

Thanks in Advance,

Glenys Grindle-Kraft

John Grindall b1755 Littledean

by Jefff, West London, Middlesex, (4266 days ago) @ glenysk

Hi Glenys, welcome back, I recall one of your earlier posts a few years back? and my getting mixedup within the numerous Dean Grindles ;-)

I think this is the Baptism you're searching (or maybe mislaid given as you know the date)

Record_ID: 166152
Entry_Number:
Year: 1755
Month: Jun
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: GRINDALL
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Whetham Hill minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 110 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 23
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: G653

Sadly despite using the excellent Advanced Search (eg can search ALL marriages inputting Groom surname "GR" - to get all spelling variations - and forename John, etc etc, I cannot find their marriage at the mo, I'll try again later.

I suspect these Baptisms maybe the same family, again found using the Adv Search;

1746 GRINDALL Sarah, John & Mary Littledean
1749 GRINDALL George, John & Mary Littledean
1752 GRINDALL Richard, John & Mary Littledean
1755 GRINDALL John, John & Mary Littledean
1759 GRINDALL Mary, John & Mary Littledean

1778 GRINDLE Sarah, John & Mary Littledean ??


Hope this starts you off (may be worth your looking in this site's Wills etc section.

J

John Grindall b1755 Littledean

by glenysk, (4259 days ago) @ Jefff

Hello Jefff,

I'll look into your suggestions. I know my grandfather David took his immediate family to Treherbert Wales they worked in the coal mines there. They later emigrated to the U.S.
I am David's granddaughter. He was born 1859 in East Dean? My great grandfather, David was born 1824 Little Dean.He was a butcher. His wife Fanny Ruck in Lea Hamlet.
All of the rest of the Grindles were from Forest of Dean area.

Glenys Grindle-Kraft

John Grindall b1755 Littledean

by Jefff, West London, Middlesex, (4259 days ago) @ glenysk

Hi Glenys
you're most welcome for the suggestions.

You say "David... was born 1859 in East Dean?"

Does your question mark mean you don't have his precise location ? I presume this info is from the Census. In case you didn't know "East Dean" is not a placename as such, but the name of an administrative district that came into usage in the mid 1800s, it includes several places and towns such as Littledean and nearby Cinderford (or Woodside as part of it was first called).

From this site's PRs;

Record_ID: 74430
Entry_Number: 49
Year: 1859
Month: Sep
Day: 18
Parents_Surname: GRINDEL
Child_Forenames: David
Fathers_Forenames: David
Mothers_Forenames: Fanny
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woodside
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: T.G.Smythies
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 7
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: G653

??

Ref the migrations to Wales and beyond, as you may have seen if you search this forum, this is not an unusual story at all, as the local pits were becoming worked-out so others in Monmouthshire etc became more important, and then areas in the US eg Pittsburgh started working huge coal deposits as late as the early 1900s I gather [yes, geography was a favourite subject for me in my schooldays :-). ]

John Grindall b1755 Littledean

by MPGriffiths, (4259 days ago) @ glenysk

There are quite a few Public Members Trees on Ancestry regarding this family - some going back to John GRINDLE (GRINDALL) born 1699 and married Mary BARNARD City of Gloucester


Fod Records

Marriage at Maisemore - 1 October 1723

John GRINDALL - residence: of Gloucester City
married Mariam BARNARD - residence: the same

Officiating Minister: John Wall Curate
event: Marriage

Notes: In Latin Johem and Mariam may be a form of Mary

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Not quite sure what information you are looking for or the names of the 5 children or whether you belong to Ancestry??


1861 Census, Parish of Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham

GRINDLE

David - 35 Coalminer,
Fanny (nee RUCK from the trees) age 32
Alim - 14
William - 10
Ellen - 5
David - 1


then back to 1841

Hinderland -

Matilda GRINDLE - 50 - Indp (James GRINDLE 1787-1838 married Metildah (Matilda) KILFORD 1797-1871 - 17 Feb 1808)
David - 15 - Collier
Ann - 12

few doors away

William - 30
Mary - 20
James - 20

John Grindall b1755 Littledean

by Jefff, West London, Middlesex, (4259 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Thanks M, hope you've been enjoying this good golfing weather.

ref the 1861 Census, my immediate thought wrt Fanny's quoted birthplace "Crusoway, East Dean" is that it is actually "Causeway" ?
This area is the part of Cinderford high above the High Street thro Heywood towards Littledean Hill. However the old OS maps c1880 and later do not use the term, so ??. That said the major feature on those maps is the Tramway/railway upto St Annals Iron Mine which is near Latimer Lodge, perhaps Cause Way and Tram Way are of similar meaning ? The rest of this area wasn't built up in those days. I first knew of The Causeway as a 70s kid, it was the name of Cinderford's football ground. Now its all built on and there is a Causeway Road across the top of this area.

ref the 1841 Census, the quoted place "Hinderland" must surely be "Hinders Lane", which in 1881 is the builtup part of Cinderford at the top of Littledean Hill, now thought of as The Barn and top section of Belle Vue Road, so only yards from the Causeway.

Hope this helps a little.

John Grindall b1755 Littledean

by glenysk, (4241 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

I am on ancestry,Grindle-Kraft. I was looking for John's marriage b.1775, thank you. Also information on John's Father b.1699 and his Father. I have John b.1699-1774 as carpenter.

David G and Fanny Ruck were my great grandparents.

John GRINDEL/Elinnor EVANS

by MPGriffiths, (4241 days ago) @ glenysk

Men in Armour for Gloucestershire 1608

http://www.coaley.net/glos1608/index.php

Just list these

Charlton Kings (Cheltenham)

Robert GRINDELL - Husbandman

Apperly and Whitfield (in Deerhurst parish, Tewkesbury

Henry GRINDELL weaver A40 - Lower stature (age 40)

Corse (Newent)

Henry GRINDELL - labourer, A 60 (age 60) - meanest stature

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Tibberton (Newent)

Thomas GRINDLE - labourer A40 - meanest stature

Tewkesbury (Church Street)

John GRINDLE smith - A20, middle stature

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Fod records early ones have GRINDLE etc. earliest appears to be burial at Deerhurst - 3 August 1569 of Waulter GRINDLE


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Just for info: from the Gloucestershire Marriage Index CD pre 1800 - from parishes not covered by FoD, Phillimore, IGI and the GFHS 18th Century Register Transcript CD (trying to form family groups etc)


GROOMS
GRINDEE William - married at Wotton/Edge - Anne HALL - wid - 27 Mar 1665
GRINDON Pilys - married at Newnham - Ruth PARKER - 1 June 1685
GRINDON William - married at Whitminster - Elizabeth KING - 8 October 1737
GRINDON Zacharia - married at Cam - Martha DAVIS - 20 April 1712
GRINING Thomas - married at Coaley - Mary ROGGERS -27 April 1719
GRINNAL Richard - married at Dumbleton - Hester - PRICE - 31 October 1796
GRINNEN Zechariah - married at Cam - Hester BROADSHAW - 4 Jul 1736
GRINNING Daniel - married at Elmore - Cathenne RAVENHILL - 7 Febr 1748

BRIDES
GRINDELL Mary married at Glos St Aldate - William PUXON - 15 Aug 1759
GRINDER Margery (Wid) married at Wotton/Edge - William KING - 5 Sept 1665
GRINDON Margaret - married at Newnham - David Meredeth - 18 Dec 1685
GRINDY Mary - married at Wotton/Edge - Richard PARKER - 26 May 1723
GRININ Hester - married at Shurdington - John SWINFORD - 12 Aug 1754
GRINING Betty - married by Licence at Norton - 25 October 1790
GRINNALL Mary 0f Broadway married by Licence at Chipping Campden - William JOHNSON - 19 Nover 1781
GRINNING Sarah - of Arlingham married at Cam, Richard KING of Arlingham - 20 May 1732
GRINNING Sarah - married at Churchdown - Thomas ARKELL - 17 October 1760


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Gloucestershire Archives OnLine Catalogues is also a useful search engine.

i.e. GRINDALL Wilson, Vicar - 1683, Royal Pardon for Celebrating Clandestine Marriage

Ancestry: Wills & Inventories

Grindall WILSON, Clerk Inventory 1715 - Place Dymock

(Inventory clear to read and very interesting)…….

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Is this one thing you are looking for??? Assume you now want to find the parents of John b 1699-1774 - - this chappie married Mariam BARNARD 1 October 1723 (previous thread)

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So many GRINDALL's on Ancestry from Gloucestershire…


There is on Ancestry, the Will of John GRINDELL - Tailor of Newland, Coleford - 1734 : He mentions his brother William, his mother Mary GRINDALL (Widow) and sons: John, William & James….

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Looking again at Marriage Allegations - 30 September 1723

John GRINDALL age 28 (=c1695) - Batchelor, residence, City of Gloucester + Mary BARNARD, age 23, Spinster, City of Gloucester

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Looking at your tree on Ancestry, John GRINDELL (GRINDLE) 1756 married Eleanor EVANS 1757 (you have married 25 January 1778, Chapel, Gloucester

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Fod Records:

Marriage at Lea : 25 January 1778

John GRINDEL of this parish

married

Elinnor EVANS of the parish of Newland

by Licence ****

witnesses: John BENNETT and Robt TURNEY


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Fod Records: Marriage Allegations

10 January 1778

John GRINDELL age 23, Batchelor
profession: Tyler and Plasterer
residence: Lea

Eleanor EVANS, age 21, Spinster
reisidence: newland

marriage by Licence, he signs

Memoranda: to Marry at Lea

Licence issued by James BENSON

Grindall - Forest of Dean

by MPGriffiths, (4259 days ago) @ glenysk

I have tried to get a direct link to the Forest of Dean section of the website for The Grindall Family Research Website - Mandy Walker (contributions by Slowhands on the Forest of Dean area with the 1841 and 1851 census) but am having problems….

However, if you Google

The Grindall Family in Tunstall, Owthorne & Waxholme

go to the very bottom of the first page : Home

There's a box to the right which includes: 'Other Areas' - scan down to the Forest of Dean section there is a write-up on this particular branch of the Grindall's plus the 1841 and 1851 census for the Forest of Dean families concerned.

James GRINDLE married Matilda in 1818 -prior thread

by Jefff, West London, Middlesex, (5322 days ago) @ slowhands

Cheers Slowhands,
I just knew it would be there, I did look beforehand but as they correctly say "didnt see it for the trees". Guess my eyes ares still full of old broken car iron.
Ah well, it was good therapy after a bad few days in the "real" world".

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