by charwatkin, (5065 days ago)
There seems to be two different threads of thought out there, as far as, the parents of Joan, Jone, Jane... Mutlow: Richard or Will (etc.)
Cany someone clarify this for me?? Has there been 'proof' as to which it is?
Thank you. This Website has been a blessing in my research!
Charlotte
by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, (5065 days ago) @ charwatkin
There seems to be two different threads of thought out there, as far as, the parents of Joan, Jone, Jane... Mutlow: Richard or Will (etc.)
Cany someone clarify this for me?? Has there been 'proof' as to which it is?
Thank you. This Website has been a blessing in my research!
Charlotte
More context please -I guessing it relates to :-
Year: 1714
Month: Feb
Day: 9
Grooms_Surname: BRAIN
Grooms_Forenames: Giles
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of ye parish of Ruardean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: MUTLOW
Brides_Forenames: Joan
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of ye parish of Ruardean
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns:
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark:
Witness_1:
Witness_2:
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Old style date 1713/4
Register_Reference: AG68/2
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Hope Mansell
several possible including :-
1683 MUTLOW Joane Baptism Longhope More detail
1686 MUTLO Joane Baptism Ruardean More detail
1687 MUTLO Joane Baptism Ruardean More detail
1690 MUTLOE Joane Baptism Walford More detail
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by charwatkin, (5064 days ago) @ slowhands
I am sorry.. I should have put more information in the message.
Yes, "tht" Joan/Jone Mutlow - wife of Giles Brain. I have seen two different parents for Joan Mutlow and was wondering if there had been specific reasons for the choices.
1. Richard and Mary - b.1691(their daughter was "Jane")
2. William and Joane - b. 1690
3. Christopher & Joan had a daughter Joan but she died young, so I have crossed them off my 'list.' . . . No I haven't... just went over my notes again, it was Phillip & Alice, whose daughter died young.
I went over & over the possibilities yesterday, marriages, spellings of the name Mutlow/Mutlowe/Mutloe, burials, etc. So far, I am leaning towards Joan Mutloe, daughter of William & Joane b. 6 July 1690.... and Joan Mutlo b 1687 daughter of Christopher & Joane.
Maybe it is something that cannot be said for sure. I was wondering what the 'train of thought' was on the possibilities. If it is too murky, I will not give parents to Joan, wife of Giles, at this time.
Charlotte
by jimashton, (5063 days ago) @ charwatkin
Charlotte
It is difficult to be 100% certain when researching back this far, without some form of corrabatory evidence, such as a Will. In my version of events I have my 6 times great grandmother Joan Mutlow wife of Giles Brain as the daughter of Richard Mutlow & Mary.
Giles Brain & Joan had 9 children, including James Brain 1714/1766 who married Mary Goode 1716/1767, they had a daughter Mary 1738 who married my 4 times great grandfather Richard Marfell.
Jim Ashton
by charwatkin, (5063 days ago) @ jimashton
Jim:
Thanks for the response. That was a bit of what I was thinking, trying to look at the names of the children as a clue. Looking at it that way, I had leaned towards Christopher Mutlow & Joan Glow (m 14 De 1676), whose daughter Joan was born in 1687.
Giles & Joan are also my husband's 6th great grandparents - next on to their son Christopher Brain. It seemed that from this union, the name Christopher became a regular Brain name, if you will. I think that your James - brother to my Christopher, had a son Christopher, as well. I guess, I had been thinking the name Mary was fairly common and Christopher not as much. I am not trying to dismiss your thoughts, just explaining mine as I went.
Again, I appreciate the response. As you said, a will may be the only way. That would be the next step to try and see if there was one for clarification.
Charlotte
by jimashton, (5063 days ago) @ charwatkin
Thanks Charlotte
Christopher Brain 1725/1799 is my 6 times Great Uncle. I have 13 children for Christopher Brain & Ruth, including 2 Christophers, the first Christopher 1755 being twin of James and (as you probably know) sadly they both died the same day.
I do have my James's son Christopher 1744 as married to Ann Jelfe.
I have plotted a number of the descendants of your Christopher Brain and have descendants for 6 of their 13 children. I think we can probably gain by sharing information and will email you using the link.
Jim Ashton
by charwatkin, (5063 days ago) @ jimashton
Looking forward to hearing more on this.
From what I can see, there were 3 children named James and 2 named Christopher. Evidently those names were important to them to pass on. Obviously, Christopher after father... wonder if James was the name for the father of Ruth??