https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Marriage_Allegations,_Bonds_and_Licences_in_Englan...

Apparently, it was not unusual for the Allegation to be made the day before the wedding or even on the same day. Also, it might not even take place at the church specified. There seems to have been a certain leeway to make changes. I suppose if Thomas Carpenter and Mr Carpenter, Minor Canon, were one and the same it may have been a matter of convenience to alter the venue. Perhaps I’m manufacturing a mystery where there is none.

I see that this was sworn before Thos. Carpenter............ and 'Mr Carpenter' married them in Gloucester Cathedral.

this seems curious to me..... but what do you think?

I have some time today to do a little digging ;-)

shame I'm out all day tomorrow with no opportunity to study it. but that will be on the agenda for Monday

thanks again

yes I saw Grace Jones baptised 1721... and if this is our Grace then I agree that she would likely stop producing children in 1764 or thereabouts.

I've also been unable to find a likely baptism for Richard Priddy/Pready. but I'll let you know if I come across one.

Ancestry now has all the Huntley baptism/marriage/burial images so looks like this family might take up a bit of my time over the next few weeks/months lol.

The only information I have about the DRINKWATER money is from the will of Thomas DRINKWATER (probate 24 Dec 1829). He was a cordwainer and therefore a skilled craftsman who might have made a good living. He evidently had freehold property (where he lived) and there are hints of other holdings as well. Yet the value of his estate at probate was marked as under £20. Estimates vary but that might be around £2000 today – not a fortune on first glance. One factor might be that he left this property to his daughter, Ann, (wife of Edward POYNER) for her lifetime and then to his grandson, John POYNER, for ever, in the form of a Will Trust. It’s not clear to me whether this would have counted in the probate valuation. The other factor is that he left his four sons a nominal one shilling each. This could mean that he had already made provision for them in his lifetime and had no need to do so in his will. All in all, I don’t think the probate valuation reflects his true worth.

I do have 5 children baptised to Richard and Grace though....

Benjamin 29/1/1755
William 20/6/1757
Mary 4/11/1759
Sarah 17/1/1762
Betty 20/5/1764

I trawled through the Huntley baptism record images ..... there may be more later as Grace didn't die until 1796 (buried 2 March 1796)... and Richard died in 1804 (buried 9 August 1804) also gleaned from the Huntley record images. you can tell that the weather has been wet for days lol.

if Richard and Grace married 22 Feb 1754.... and Benjamin was baptised in January 1755 do you think that Benjamin might have been born months before... a reason for not marrying in a local church?

or.... is there a possibility that Grace came from a 'better' family than Richard and therefore there might have been objections to them marrying? or even the other way around?

the apparent DRINKWATER money came from somewhere.... perhaps from the Mary Priddy/Pready line? or do you know different?

As regards the location of Gloucester Cathedral it is possible that, for some reason, they did not want any publicity in the form of banns or use of a licence in their home parishes. The date was just before Hardwicke’s Marriage Act (into force 25 March 1754) so probably not an age-related objection from parents. Perhaps there was some other form of local opposition.

just wondered if you have taken your Louisa Green line back to her 3x grandparents (my Mike's line too through Julia Green.... Louisa's sister).

I just found their marriage, and wondered how/why they married in Gloucester Cathedral??? he was from Huntley and she was from Taynton.

he is Richard Priddy/Pready/Piddy and she is Grace Jones. do you have the same?

Julia Green looks very Italian in the one and only photo we have. I can only assume that she spent a lot of time out of doors as I can find no Italian blood.

what about your Louisa?

Julia lived in Cinderford so I wonder if they saw each other from time to time.

which of Louisa's daughters was your mum? Julia's son Stanley was Mike's grandfather.

anyway.... thanks again

I don't know whether this will confuse your search or not but in the 1802 list of landholders and tenants for the Inclosure of Birdwood Common in Churcham Parish a John Green owned numerous plots and a Mary Green was a copyholder for several allotments as well.

In addition a Harriet Green baptised 1st August 1830 in Minsterworth was the daughter of William Green and Ann Copner.
Harriet married Thomas Toomey in Minsterworth on 3rd February 1853.
Thomas Toomey was baptised in Churcham on 5th December 1830.

Good luck with your search

Sid Toomey

If you have access to Ancestry that ‘photo of Louisa Green appears in the Alder_25914 public tree. I don’t know how long it’s been there – I haven’t checked out this branch for new material for some time. It’s clearly an Android ‘photo of a ‘photo and a bit blurred but it’s definitely the one I remember.