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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slowhands this is great information. It does make more sence to me now. </p>
<p>Thanks very much for taking the time to respond to my posting </p>
<p>regards</p>
<p>Lisa</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whitchuch / New Weir / Chapel Hill all link to Forges on the Wye</p>
<p>Year: 1783 <br />
Month: Jun <br />
Day: 6 <br />
Grooms_Surname: HADDOCK <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Rawlins <br />
Grooms_Age:  <br />
Groom_Condition:  <br />
Grooms_Occupation:  <br />
Grooms_Residence: Whitchurch Glos <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:  <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:  <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Surname: WILLIAMS <br />
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth <br />
Brides_Age:  <br />
Brides_Condition:  <br />
Brides_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Residence: Chapel Hill <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname:  <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:  <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:  <br />
Licence_or_Banns: banns <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark:  <br />
Witness_1:  <br />
Witness_2:  <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister:  <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference:  <br />
Page_Number:  <br />
Parish_Chapel: Chapel Hill Monmouth </p>
<p>The answer has to be Industrial !<br />
 either Tin or Iron ( or both) ; I suspect Copper and Tin plate</p>
<p>The power of the Wye was being used in the Forges at New Weir and Red Brook etc, and it appears the Haddocks were Forgemen. perhaps skilled and in demand....</p>
<p>back in Aberafon / Neath Tin plate and iron was a major industry too.</p>
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<em>Mr Costaria John Coster, a Cornish mineworker who hailed from the Forest of Dean. He became manager and later owner of Copper Works at Upper Redbrook. He died in 1718 and was succeeded by his son , Thomas, who took up a lease of copper works in Neath, and was working there in 1733.</em></p>
<p><em>In 1680 a second smelter was erected at Upper Redbrook in the Forest of Dean by John Coster. His partner was William Dockwra, who probably obtained his copper from these works for use in his brass foundry at Esher in Surrey. In 1691 a further smelter in the Forest was erected at Lower Redbrook, the premises of the English Copper Company. Amongst the technical staff was Gabriel Wayne.</em></p>
<p><em>Following the deaths of John Coster, jnr in 1734, his brothers Robert in 1735<br />
and Thomas in 1739, control of their business was transferred to Thomas' daughter, Jane, who after a number of years sold her interest to a partner, Joseph Percival. He changed the name of the company to Joseph Percival &amp; Copper Company, transferring the smelting branch of the business to South Wales. Frances Coster succeeded to the management of the Upper Redbrook works on the death of his father, John. Frances remained in control at Upper Redbrook, until the business was transferred to Neath.The Lower Redbrook works continued in operation until 1790, in which year the English Copper Company, having previously moved their smelting facilities to South Wales, sold it to David and William Tanner of Monmouth.</em></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone help me please as I am starting to get confused?</p>
<p>I am a descendent of a Marshall Haddock born 1746 in Aberafon Glamorgan. He married a Sarah Richards at Chapel Hill, Monmouthshire. I have a few questions that I need the answers of to verify my research.<br />
Question 1<br />
Does anyone know if Nelson Haddock born 1822 and Horatio Nelson Haddock are the same person? <br />
Question 2<br />
Does anyone know if the father of Nelson Haddock is Rawlins Haddock born in Aberafon Glamorgan 1795, Wales. Rawlins Haddock is the son of Marshall and Sarah Haddock<br />
Question 3<br />
If this is the case why do the Haddocks from Glamorgan keep coming back and forth to the Forest of Dean area. </p>
<p>Can anyone help me with information and verification on the above questions.<br />
Regards<br />
Lisa Evans</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like the same man - please see prior response :-)</p>
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<title>Horatio Nelson HADDOCK born Newware (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sue,I am a distant relative of Haddocks family and i too wondered who Horatio Nelson Haddock was and where from.He was born at new-weir,and died in lydney.there is also a record of a marriage nelson haddock to Jane James[nee Davies]1843,is this the same person,as i believe we are related.Ivan</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>might be John rather than Noah</p>
<p><br />
1841<br />
John Haddock abt 1811    Llanwenarth  Monmouthshire   <br />
 Mary Haddock abt 1811    Llanwenarth  Monmouthshire   <br />
Emma Haddock abt 1838    Llanwenarth  Monmouthshire  <br />
 Mary Haddock abt 1832    Llanwenarth  Monmouthshire   <br />
 Sarah Haddock abt 1840  Monmouthshire, Wales Llanwenarth  Monmouthshire  </p>
<p><br />
1851<br />
John Haddock abt 1811  Alwnare, Herefordshire, England Head  Machen  Monmouthshire   <br />
Mary Haddock  abt 1807  Cemenell, Gloucestershire, England Wife  Machen  Monmouthshire   <br />
Margret Haddock  abt 1851  Machen, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter  Machen  Monmouthshire  <br />
Mary Ann Haddock abt 1832  Chelthnuin, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  Machen  Monmouthshire   <br />
Sarah Haddock  abt 1841  Guenddegsio, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter  Machen  Monmouthshire</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sylvia</p>
<p>I would be interested in seeing this Marriage Certificate.  Not sure whether she is one of my Haddocks but would like to put her in my spares &quot;keep net&quot; while I carry on fishing for more Haddocks(-:<br />
Regards Sue Bell</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. This is the GFHS transcription:<br />
Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place<br />
2444 0343 010 Lydbrook HADDOCK Nelson HD M 41 Tin Forge Man HEF Whitchurch<br />
2444 0343 010 Lydbrook HADDOCK Jane WI M 46 - GLS Stanton [Staunton?]<br />
2444 0343 010 Lydbrook HADDOCK John SO U 14 Labr Iron Works GLS E.Bicknor [English Bicknor]<br />
2444 0343 010 Lydbrook HADDOCK Rollin SO - 6 - GLS Lydbrook<br />
2444 0343 010 Lydbrook HADDOCK Betsy DA - 3 - GLS Lydbrook</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[1845] is what the transcription should say IMHO :-)</p>
<p>and Willim is probably Rollin too</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you again slowhands, but I don't quite understand the entry for 1851 which shows &quot;Willim Haddock abt 1786 (1845) Sudbrook, Gloucester, England, Son, West Dean?  Does this entry refer to Nelson's son Rollins born 1845 (as per 1861 census) or another Haddock born abt 1786.<br />
Regards, Sue Bell</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you slowhands, much appreciated. <br />
Regards, Sue Bell</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Year 1828 <br />
Month Jul <br />
Day 1 <br />
Surname HADDOCK <br />
Forename(s) Rawlins <br />
Place of Residence Lidbrook <br />
Age at death 74 <br />
Officiating Minister T Marwood Rector <br />
Event Burial <br />
Cause of death  <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference from 1813 <br />
Page No 40 <br />
Parish/Chapel English Bicknor <br />
Soundex H320</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAWLINS HADDOCK  <br />
------------------<br />
Marriages: <br />
  Spouse:  CHARLOTTA HOWELLS  <br />
  Marriage:  27 JUN 1824   Newland, Gloucester, England <br />
---------------------------------------------------<br />
Messages: <br />
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. <br />
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.  <br />
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Source Information: <br />
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:  Type:  Printout Call No.:  Type:  <br />
 M036201  1754 - 1851  0856960   Film  6911883   Film  <br />
 Sheet: 00 </p>
<p>1841<br />
 Rawline Haddock abt 1806    Trevethan  Monmouthshire <br />
Charlotte Haddock abt 1806    Trevethan  Monmouthshire   <br />
 George Haddock abt 1827  Monmouthshire, Wales Trevethan  Monmouthshire   <br />
Charlotte Haddock abt 1839  Monmouthshire, Wales Trevethan  Monmouthshire   <br />
 Elen Haddock abt 1836  Monmouthshire, Wales Trevethan  Monmouthshire   <br />
 Elizth Haddock abt 1829  Monmouthshire, Wales Trevethan  Monmouthshire   <br />
 Jane Haddock abt 1830  Monmouthshire, Wales Trevethan  Monmouthshire   <br />
John Haddock abt 1833  Monmouthshire, Wales Trevethan  Monmouthshire  </p>
<p><br />
1851<br />
Rawlings Haddock abt 1801  Lidbrock, Monmouthshire, Wales Head  Trevethin  Monmouthshire  <br />
 Ann Haddock  abt 1815  Pembrokeshire, Wales Wife  Trevethin  Monmouthshire   <br />
Charlotte Haddock abt 1839  Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter  Trevethin  Monmouthshire   <br />
 Ellen Haddock  abt 1835  Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter  Trevethin  Monmouthshire   <br />
 John Haddock  abt 1832  Monmouthshire, Wales Son  Trevethin  Monmouthshire</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I dont if this is relevant but I have an(unwanted) marriage certificate for a henry JONES and a Mary Ann HADDOCKaged 25  resident at Whitebrook father (looks like)Noah labourer dated March 12th 1854 <br />
Sylvia</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>parents ?</p>
<p>Year: 1783 <br />
Month: Jun <br />
Day: 6 <br />
Grooms_Surname: HADDOCK <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Rawlins <br />
Grooms_Age: <br />
Groom_Condition: <br />
Grooms_Occupation: <br />
Grooms_Residence: Whitchurch Glos <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Surname: WILLIAMS <br />
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth <br />
Brides_Age: <br />
Brides_Condition: <br />
Brides_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Residence: Chapel Hill <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: <br />
Licence_or_Banns: banns <br />
Date_of_Banns: <br />
Signature_or_Mark: <br />
Witness_1: <br />
Witness_2: <br />
Other_Witnesses: <br />
Officiating_Minister: <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: <br />
Page_Number: <br />
Parish_Chapel: Chapel Hill Monmouth </p>
<p><br />
a sister ?</p>
<p>Year 1796 <br />
Month Sep <br />
Day 20 <br />
Parents Surname HADOCK <br />
Child Forenames Sarah <br />
Fathers Forenames Rawlins <br />
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence  <br />
Occupation  <br />
Officiating Minister  <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda twin [Thomas] <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P138 in 1/3 <br />
Page Number 43 <br />
Parish Chapel English Bicknor </p>
<p>1841 Lydbrook<br />
 Nelson Hadock abt 1816    Dean Forest  Gloucestershire   Forgeman<br />
 <br />
Year 1843 <br />
Month Jul <br />
Day 15 </p>
<p>Groom Surname HADDOCK <br />
Groom Forename(s) Nelson <br />
Groom Age at Marriage of f <br />
Groom condition Bachelor <br />
Groom Rank or Profession Labourer <br />
Groom Residence Lydbrook <br />
Groom Father's Surname HADDOCK <br />
Groom Father's Forename(s) Rawlings <br />
Groom Father's Rank or Profession Labourer </p>
<p>Bride Surname JAMES <br />
Bride Forename(s) Jane <br />
Bride Age at Marriage of f <br />
Bride Condition Widow <br />
Bride Rank or Profession [not stated] <br />
Bride Residence E[nglish] Bicknor <br />
Bride Father's Surname DAVIES <br />
Bride Father's Forename(s) Christopher <br />
Bride Father's Rank or Profession Wood Collier </p>
<p>Licence or Banns Banns <br />
Date of banns 1843 Jun 25 Jul <br />
Signature or Mark Both mark <br />
Witness 1 Mark of Thomas Lewis <br />
Witness 2 Mark of Mary Lewis <br />
Other witnesses John Jones <br />
Officiating Minister Edward Feild [sic] Rector <br />
Event type Marriage <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Transcriber's Notes Banns are in P138 IN 1/10 page 53. This record also appears in P138 IN 1/8 page 76. <br />
Register Reference P138 IN 1/12 <br />
Page No 14 <br />
Parish/Chapel English Bicknor </p>
<p><br />
1851 Lydbrook<br />
Nelson Haddock abt 1810  Whitchurch, Herefordshire, England Head  West Dean  Gloucestershire   Tin Forgeman<br />
  Jane Haddock  abt 1805  Stantor, Gloucestershire, England Wife  West Dean  Gloucestershire   <br />
Betsy Haddock  abt 1848  Sudbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  West Dean  Gloucestershire   <br />
John Haddock  abt 1837  English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Son  West Dean  Gloucestershire   <br />
Willim Haddock abt 1786 [1845] Sudbrook, Gloucestershire, England Son  West Dean  Gloucestershire  </p>
<p>  &lt;Sudbrook = LYDBROOK, Stanton = STAUNTON&gt;</p>
<p><br />
1861<br />
Nelson Haddock  abt 1812  New Ware, Gloucestershire, England Head  West Dean  Gloucestershire   <br />
  Jane Haddock  abt 1806  Stanton, Gloucestershire, England Wife  West Dean  Gloucestershire   <br />
Elizabeth Haddock  abt 1848  Lydnock, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  West Dean  Gloucestershire   <br />
Rollins Haddock  abt 1845  Lydnock, Gloucestershire, England Son  West Dean  Gloucestershire</p>
<p>1871<br />
 Nelson Hadcock  abt 1811  New Ware, Monmouthshire, Wales Head  West Dean, Gloucestershire <br />
Jane Hadcock  abt 1805  The Statia, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife  West Dean, Gloucestershire<br />
 <br />
Year: 1880 <br />
Month: Mar <br />
Day: 10 <br />
Surname: HADDOCK <br />
Forenames: Jane <br />
Place of Residence: The Asylum Glo[uce]ster <br />
Age at death: 74 <br />
Officiating Minister: John J.Trollope <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause of death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register Reference: P209 IN 1/12 <br />
Page No: 192 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney </p>
<p>1881<br />
Horatio Nelson Haddock  abt 1812 New Hare, Hereford, England Father  Lydney, Gloucestershire <br />
 Rollings Haddock  abt 1845 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head  Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Selina Haddock Rollings abt 1847 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife  Lydney, Gloucestershire <br />
 Lilly Lana Haddock  abt 1873 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Rose Ann Haddock  abt 1875 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  Lydney, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Selina Eliz. Adelt.  abt 1877 Clifton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter  Lydney, Gloucestershire </p>
<p><br />
Year: 1890 <br />
Month: Jun <br />
Day: 28 <br />
Surname: HADDOCK <br />
Forenames: Horatio Nelson <br />
Place of Residence: Lydbrook <br />
Age at death: 78 <br />
Officiating Minister: H.S.Prinsep <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause of death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register Reference: P209 IN 1/13 <br />
Page No: 60 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm sure this is New Wear or New Weir near Symonds Yat rock / Coldwell Rocks on the Wye...</p>
<p>For an old map and new map </p>
<p><a href="http://www.old-maps.co.uk/">http://www.old-maps.co.uk/</a><br />
co-ordinates 356259,215839 </p>
<p>(  on a 25000 OS map use  56259,15839 ) </p>
<p>That would be about 1 1/2 miles south of the centre of Whitchurch Herefordshire village.</p>
<p>Goodrich , Whitchurch and Englich Bicknor are often used to &quot;cover&quot; this area.</p>
<p>It was the site of an old iron (?) Forge</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On various Census Returns Horatio Nelson Haddock consistently gives his place of birth as Newware, Glos, but I am unable to find the location of this place.  Can anyone offer assistance.<br />
Regards Sue Bell</p>
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