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<p><br />
 If we are to maintain our peace and freedom, we must always remember.<br />
 </p>
<p><em><br />
 “They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old,<br />
 Age shall not weary them nor the years condemn.<br />
 At the going down of the sun, and in the morning<br />
 We will remember them.”<br />
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<strong>Anthem for doomed youth </strong></p>
<p>What passing-bells for these who die as cattle?<br />
 Only the monstrous anger of the guns.<br />
 Only the stuttering rifles' rapid rattle<br />
 Can patter out their hasty orisons.<br />
 No mockeries now for them; no prayers nor bells;<br />
 Nor any voice of mourning save the choirs, -<br />
 The shrill, demented choirs of wailing shells;<br />
 And bugles calling for them from sad shires.<br />
 What candles may be held to speed them all?<br />
 Not in the hands of boys but in their eyes<br />
 Shall shine the holy glimmers of goodbyes.<br />
 The pallor of girls' brows shall be their pall;<br />
 Their flowers the tenderness of patient minds,<br />
 And each slow dusk a drawing-down of blinds.</p>
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 Wilfred Owen<br />
 September - October, 1917</p>
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<title>On Remembrance Sunday 2012 (reply)</title>
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<p><br />
If we are to maintain our peace and freedom, we must always remember.</p>
<p><br />
<em><br />
“They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old,<br />
Age shall not weary them nor the years condemn.<br />
At the going down of the sun, and in the morning<br />
We will remember them.”<br />
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<p>St Paul's<br />
 (London May 11th 1941)</p>
<p> I walked to Ludgate Hill down from the Strand,<br />
 By broken beauty of a City’s shattered breast;<br />
 Where streets, tradition-steeped, were piled<br />
 With debris; where men fought fire to wrest,<br />
 From fiercest hate, the fragments of a grand<br />
 And glorious heritage; untiring men, who smiled.</p>
<p> I saw St. Clements Dane, and thought of Spring,<br />
 Of fashionable weddings and decades now done;<br />
 But smouldering walls and empty aisles were hushed<br />
 With silence of rebuke for splendour gone;<br />
 From ruined pews lost echoes seemed to ring<br />
 With peals of praise, but ravished bells lay crushed.</p>
<p> Then, poised out of chaos and this Dantesque dream,<br />
 Shrouded by smoke, the high familiar dome,<br />
 Splendidly proud above the crumbling walls<br />
 And devastation, the symbol of our Home,<br />
 And Britain’s faith and effort, shone supreme,<br />
 An edifice of glory, old St. Pauls.</p>
<p> Namur King</p>
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<title>On Remembrance Sunday 2011 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are to maintain our peace and freedom, we must always remember.</p>
<p>“They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old,<br />
Age shall not weary them nor the years condemn.<br />
At the going down of the sun, and in the morning<br />
We will remember them.”</p>
<p><br />
<em>Remembrance Day is here again,<br />
On this day we remember all those who were slain.<br />
The ones they left behind have endured much sorrow and pain.<br />
But rest assured,<br />
the whole world knows those brave ones didn't die in vain.</em></p>
<p><em>The poppies that you see people wear,<br />
Are there to show you they still care.<br />
We open our hearts so that we can share,<br />
A moment of silence, and offer a prayer.</em></p>
<p><em>To all the soldiers who died saving our country.</em></p>
<p>~~By Patti Joyce.~~</p>
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<p>William George HALE, Gunner, Royal Garrison Artillery. Died 4-November-1918</p>
<p>Sidney SMITH, 9th Batallion, Welsh Regiment. Died 7-July-1916 (the Somme)</p>
<p>Both were sons of the Forest.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>At the going down of the sun and in the morning <br />
We will remember them.</em></p>
<p><strong>We Shall Keep the Faith</strong><br />
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   <em> Oh! you who sleep in Flanders Fields,<br />
        Sleep sweet - to rise anew!<br />
        We caught the torch you threw<br />
        And holding high, we keep the Faith<br />
        With All who died.</em></p>
<p><em>         We cherish, too, the poppy red<br />
        That grows on fields where valor led;<br />
        It seems to signal to the skies<br />
        That blood of heroes never dies,<br />
        But lends a lustre to the red<br />
        Of the flower that blooms above the dead<br />
        In Flanders Fields.</em></p>
<p><em>         And now the Torch and Poppy Red<br />
        We wear in honour of our dead.<br />
        Fear not that ye have died for naught;<br />
        We'll teach the lesson that ye wrought<br />
      In Flanders Fields.</em></p>
<p>by Ms Moira Bell Michael, November 1918</p>
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<em>Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.</em><br />
Prime Minister Winston Churchill 20 August 1940</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>When you go home tell them of us and say -<br />
For your tomorrow we gave our today</strong></p>
<p>this year you can plant a virtual poppy :-<br />
<a href="http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/remembrance/we-will-remember-them/plant-a-virtual-poppy/virtual-poppy">http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/remembrance/we-will-remember-them/plant-a-virtual-poppy...</a></p>
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<em>Cherish me not with regretful thought,<br />
Of what might have been for you and me.<br />
Remember me not with tears and sighs,<br />
Like the poppies, I did not die.<br />
My body bled a blood as red as any poppy that ever grew,<br />
And from this mortal shell a soul was shed,<br />
And on your loving thoughts it fed,<br />
And bloomed again, as poppies will<br />
Upon that field, where so much blood was spilled.<br />
Remember me with love and joy,<br />
For I am but still the boy you knew.<br />
I lie not unknown, where the poppies grew,<br />
I live now, even as you.</em></p>
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<p>© Elizabeth Anderson 1958</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>If We Return</strong><br />
by F.W. Harvey</p>
<p>If we return, will England be<br />
Just England still to you and me?<br />
The place where we must earn our bread?<br />
We who have walked among the dead,<br />
And watched the smile of agony,<br />
And seen the price of Liberty,<br />
Which we had taken carelessly</p>
<p>From other hands. Nay, we shall dread,<br />
If we return,<br />
Dread lest we hold blood-guiltily<br />
The things that men have died to free.<br />
Oh, English fields shall blossom red<br />
For all the blood that has been shed<br />
By men whose guardians are we,<br />
If we return.</p>
<blockquote><blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote></blockquote><p>
for a little more on <br />
F.W. Harvey</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&amp;id=7769">http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&amp;id=7769</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shall we not lay our Holly wreath<br />
Here at the foot of this High cross ?<br />
We do not know, perhaps a breath<br />
Of our remembering may come<br />
To them at least where they are sleeping,<br />
They are quiet, they are dumb<br />
No more of mirth, no more of weeping,<br />
Silent Christmas they are keeping<br />
Ours the sorrow, ours the loss.</p>
<p>Diana Guerney 1918</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Flanders fields the poppies blow<br />
Between the crosses, row on row,<br />
That mark our place; and in the sky<br />
The larks, still bravely singing, fly<br />
Scarce heard amid the guns below.</p>
<p>We are the Dead. Short days ago<br />
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,</p>
<p>Loved and were loved, and now we lie<br />
In Flanders fields.</p>
<p>Take up our quarrel with the foe:<br />
To you from failing hands we throw<br />
The torch; be yours to hold it high.<br />
If ye break faith with us who die<br />
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow<br />
In Flanders fields</p>
<p>By John McCrae 1915</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are to maintain our peace and freedom, we must always remember.</p>
<p><br />
“They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old,<br />
Age shall not weary them nor the years condemn.<br />
At the going down of the sun, and in the morning<br />
We will remember them.”</p>
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<title>Dymock poets - The Soldier - Rupert Brooke (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dymock poets were a literary group of the early 20th century, who made their home in the Gloucestershire village of Dymock, just to the north of the Forest. They were Robert Frost, Lascelles Abercrombie, Rupert Brooke, Edward Thomas, Wilfred Wilson Gibson, and John Drinkwater, all of whom lived in the village in the period between 1911 and 1914. They published their own quarterly containing poems such as Brooke's masterpiece, The Soldier. The First World War resulted in the break-up of the community. Brooke die from blood poisoning following an infected mosquito bite on his way to Gallipoli.</p>
<p><strong>The Soldier</strong></p>
<p>If I should die, think only this of me: <br />
      That there's some corner of a foreign field <br />
That is for ever England. There shall be <br />
      In that rich earth a richer dust concealed; <br />
A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware, <br />
      Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam, <br />
A body of England's, breathing English air, <br />
      Washed by the rivers, blest by suns of home.</p>
<p>And think, this heart, all evil shed away, <br />
      A pulse in the eternal mind, no less <br />
          Gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given; <br />
Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day; <br />
      And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness, <br />
          In hearts at peace, under an English heaven. </p>
<p>Rupert Brooke 1887 - 1915</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Kohima Epitaph <br />
( from the Imperial War Museum <a href="http://collections.iwm.org.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.1261">http://collections.iwm.org.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.1261</a> )</p>
<p>When you go home<br />
Tell them of us and say<br />
For your tomorrow<br />
We gave our today</p>
<p>The above epitaph is engraved on the War Memorial to commemorate the men of the British 2nd Division who fell in the Battle of Kohima in 1944.  According to Major General John Grover, who commanded the 2nd Division at Kohima, the epitaph there was composed by Major John Etty-Leal and was probably inspired by an epitaph written during the First World War by John Maxwell Edmonds (1875-1958):- </p>
<p>When you go home, tell them of us and say<br />
&quot;For your to-morrows these gave their to-day.&quot;</p>
<p>Edmonds was a classical scholar and it is possible that he took his inspiration from the Ancient Greek Simonides of Ceos. It was Simonides who wrote the famous lines about the Spartan rearguard under Leonidas who held the pass of Thermopylae against the Persians in 480 BC.  One translation of Simonides' epitaph runs thus:-</p>
<p>Tell it in Sparta, thou that passes by<br />
Here, faithful to her charge, her soldiers lie</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Private C Huckson<br />
<a href="http://www.forest-of-dean.net/gallery/gravestones/index3.html">http://www.forest-of-dean.net/gallery/gravestones/index3.html</a></p>
<p>When you go home tell them of us and say:<br />
&quot;For your tomorrow, we gave our today&quot; </p>
<p>Charles is buried in St Johns, Cinderford, he is not a relative, but one<br />
of many who gave his life so that we could enjoy our freedom today</p>
<p>Also, see  information on Charles : <a href="http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&amp;id=1564#p1564">http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&amp;id=1564#p1564</a></p>
<p>---<br />
Photo and the above text supplied by Slowhands</p>
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