Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Deciphering Edward Stockam 1859 marriage record

Deciphering Edward Stockam 1859 marriage record (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:40:39 +0000

I have a copy of Edward Stockam and Esther Smith's marriage record on 14 Feb 1859 at The Lea parish in Hereford/Gloucester. My question has to do with their residence at the time of the marriage. It lists East Dean for each of them. How can I find out the village in which they were located within East Dean? Was there a village named East Dean as well as a township? I thought I saw one listed on a map I was viewing. It was located above Wigpool and to the right of the Hamlet of Lea Bailey. Is that possible?

I just want to see if I can find out were they were living in 1859. In 1861 they are located in Ruardean with their first born son Henry William. In 1863 they are in Cinderford when David was born.

I have a marriage record from 1886 for David Stockam and Eliza Preddy. It lists a specific village "the Pludds" as their residence. That's why I am not sure if the East Dean listed on the marriage record is a village or township.

Thanks for your help.

East Dean is an area rather than a specific village or hamlet....

Deciphering Edward Stockam 1859 marriage record (reply)

stockampreddy — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:29:59 +0000

I have a copy of Edward Stockam and Esther Smith's marriage record on 14 Feb 1859 at The Lea parish in Hereford/Gloucester. My question has to do with their residence at the time of the marriage. It lists East Dean for each of them. How can I find out the village in which they were located within East Dean? Was there a village named East Dean as well as a township? I thought I saw one listed on a map I was viewing. It was located above Wigpool and to the right of the Hamlet of Lea Bailey. Is that possible?

I just want to see if I can find out were they were living in 1859. In 1861 they are located in Ruardean with their first born son Henry William. In 1863 they are in Cinderford when David was born.

I have a marriage record from 1886 for David Stockam and Eliza Preddy. It lists a specific village "the Pludds" as their residence. That's why I am not sure if the East Dean listed on the marriage record is a village or township.

Thanks for your help.

Holy Trinity Church Drybrook aka "Forest Church" (reply)

Jefff — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:48:42 +0000

No, thank YOU on behalf of everyone else for your very kind words, I think I speak for all when I say it's our pleasure to help especially when it's so gratefully received.

As ever if you are able to and have not, all donations are appreciated ( large or small !) as they enable the Team to keep this resource running and growing, as a non-subscription site. Thank you

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Of particular help might be the Maps section which include parish boundary maps.
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/joomla/the-forest-of-dean/maps-of-the-forest

Holy Trinity Church Drybrook aka "Forest Church" (reply)

stockampreddy — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:08:09 +0000

Thank you so much!!! The information and links are wonderful! I have been reading them since I awoke this morning and can't stop. They have supplied me with so many resources for planning my trip. I wish I could do more to show my appreciation than just say thank you.

Holy Trinity Church Drybrook aka "Forest Church" (reply)

Jefff — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 02:50:43 +0000

Hi,
pleased to see you're getting your history sorted and really glad you're going to visit the Dean. Regarding the Forest Church this prior post may interest you as it has links to a BBC TV programme who filmed in the Dean including at the Church last November. The programme used to be available to watch via the BBC website, but sadly that seems to have expired now, altho maybe its still accessible abroad ??.
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=39065

I've checked Youtube and it's not there (yet..), but there is this rather entertaining clip featuring the local Silver Band (another old Vurrest tradition), you can get some idea of the Church interior.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnuIOtbGpjI

I've scoured Youtube for a glimpse of the Church, but even this interesting tour of the local roads in all seasons (or was it just June 2012?!) just manages to miss it. If nowt else it give's you an idea what to expect when driving the area, particularly at 5mins 40secs when the sheep take priority outside the Speech House !.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muNU4GRqFOY

I must get my cousin to post her wedding homemovie on Youtube. She's a Drybrook girl so was married at Forest Church in "the hot summer" of 1976. Her bridal car was a surprise horse-drawn carriage, I recall it was a bit hairy as the horse slipped a few times on the steepish Harrow Hill to the Church, and particularly to the reception up at Euroclydon House, now a nursing home. A lovely day. Apparently in years past it was normal for the churchgoers of my home town Bilson aka Woodside now Cinderford to walk thro the woods and upto the Church, it being built in 1817 well before Cinderford existed as such never mind had Churches.

Re your visit these prior threads may be of some guidance, apologies if you've already searched them out.
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=36291
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=33227

Enjoy your visit, hope the sun shines (autumn's often very good, honest!)

PS we sympathise & understand your problems relating to the local area place names and how they've evolved over the years. I grewup there yet still found it hardgoing when I started my FH research a few years ago !
And wrt your PREDDY name, my father's line is from the Pludds area of Lydbrook, and there's a Preedy girl in the mix, Rebecca born 1855 to John(not yours) & Sarah. Irrespective of the various ways of spelling Rebekkah, I've seen Preedy spelt in Census' and PRs in almost all these variations, no wonder your branch moved to the USA !! (Preedy, Preddy, Predy, Predey, Preedey, Priedy, Priddy, Priddey, Priday, Pryday, Pridday, and even Prideaux !!).

Littledean Woodside East Dean - David STOCKHAM 1863 (reply)

stockampreddy — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:20:58 +0000

Thank you so much! I am always amazed at how informative and educational your responses are.
I have some additional questions about other areas noted on a couple of marriage records I have received. I will post another message so the subject line will be appropriate.

Littledean Woodside East Dean - David STOCKHAM 1863 (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:24:19 +0000

I find I need your assistance once again. I can not seem to locate Woodside East Dean which is listed on a copy of the birth register entry for my greatgrandfather David John Stockam. He was born 28 Oct 1863. I just sent away for and received this record. Thank you.

There are a few Woodsides in East Dean - Ruardean and Littledean for starters

I'll try to understand the broad context - but instinct says Littledean Woodside or Cinderford. ( also known as Bilson Green)
http://www.geograph.org.uk/showmap.php?gridref=SO6414

Bilson
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1441699
Heywood Rd
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3265913
St Stephens Mission Bilson
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1456394

So in 1861 census they are in Ruardean

1861 Ruardean
Edward Stockam abt 1839 East Brant [BRENT], Somerset, England Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Esther Stockam abt 1840 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean, Gloucestershire
William H Stockam abt 1860 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire

by 1863 I believe that they have moved to the Cinderford area

Year: 1863
Month: Dec
Day: 27
Parents_Surname: STOCKHAM
Child_Forenames: David John
Fathers_Forenames: Edward
Mothers_Forenames: Esther
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Cinderford
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: William Lockett
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P/109 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 19
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

In the later 19th century Cinderford's development centred on the hillside east of Bilson in the area known at that time as Woodside, (fn. 48) Littledean Woodside, or Bilson Woodside. (fn. 49) Building had begun there before 1782, when eight cottages were standing on encroachments on the edge of the royal demesne in the area of the later Heywood Road. (fn. 50) At the same time cottages were built on extraparochial land to the east in Dockham Road (formerly Hinder's Lane) and higher up on Littledean hill, (fn. 51) and in 1832 there were c. 86 cottages at and above Woodside. (fn. 52) The settlement of Littledean Hill, on a ridge overlooking Littledean to the east, also included cottages on land belonging to Littledean parish and Lea Bailey tithing. (fn. 53) The Royal Forester inn near the Forest keeper's lodge called Latimer Lodge was recorded from 1838 (fn. 54) and, further south, a chapel was built in 1824 (fn. 55) and an inn called the Royal Oak had opened by 1838. (fn. 56) The oldest dwelling on the hill was possibly a farmhouse standing at the east end of Dockham Road in 1797, in the area known later as Dockham and within Flaxley parish. (fn. 57) To the south at St. White's there were one or two cottages on Crown land adjoining the Littledean-Coleford road by the late 1760s (fn. 58) and a public house had opened there, in the area called Mount Pleasant, by 1841. (fn. 59)

From: 'Forest of Dean: Settlement', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5: Bledisloe Hundred, St. Briavels Hundred,
The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 300-325.
URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23266 Date accessed: 13 February 2013.

Woodside East Dean (reply)

stockampreddy — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:39:42 +0000

I find I need your assistance once again. I can not seem to locate Woodside East Dean which is listed on a copy of the birth register entry for my greatgrandfather David John Stockam. He was born 28 Oct 1863. I just sent away for and received this record. Thank you.

Albert William STOCKHAM/STOCKAM 1887 ? (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:41:59 +0000

There are a number of Public Members Trees on Ancestry - but I don't have access to the American census etc. which are on these trees.

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Mytrees.com.

http://www.mytrees.com

has

STOCKAM, Alice R - born - Place CANA - 1891

If the family did come through Canada - Archives & Library Canada

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/index-e.html

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On the Church of Latter Day Saints - searching for David J STOCKHAM - born England

This is on the website

David J STOCKAM - United States Census
Event date: 1930
Event place: Lafayette, Onondaga, New York

Male, 60, Married, White, birthplace, England, estimated birth year: 1870

Immigration Year: 1890

(then various references)

Household

Head: David J STOCKAM - age 60 birthplace, England
Eliza STOCKAM - age 58 birthplace, England

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again on Church of Latter Day Saints site

United States Census, 1920

Onondaga, New York

David John STOCKHAM, age 52

Household

Eliza STOCKHAM 48 - born England
Daniel BARRETT - 44 - born New York
Alice BARRETT (daughter) 26 born New York (this is Alice Rhoda - one tree gives her dob as 21 Sept 1891)
David Raw BARRETT - 7 years, born New York
Catherine BARRETT - 3 years 6 months, born New York
Daniel A BARRETT - 2 years 3 months, born New York
Harry Edward BARRETT - 4 m - born California
Harry E STOCKHAM - son - 20 years, born New York
David John STOCKHAM - 52 years - born England

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again on Church of Latter Day Saints site

1910

David STOCKHAM, age 43 years Salina, Onondaga, New York

Immigration Year: 1891

(wife) Eliza - 37, birthplace, New York
(son) John - 20 years, birthplace New York
(dau) Alice - 12 years, ditto
(dau) May - 8 years, ditto
(son) Harry - 0 years, 6 months, ditto

Wm SPERRY - 43 years, born New York
Teresia SPERRY - 35 - ditto
Royal SPERRY - 13 - ditto
Hilda SPERRY - 10 - ditto
Gladolyn SPERRY - 0 years 4 months, born New York

Albert William STOCKHAM/STOCKAM 1887 ? (reply)

stockampreddy — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:32:13 +0000

I was reading your response more closely and wondered about the birth of Albert William Stockham in 1887 Forest of Dean, Monmouth Coleford, mother's name Preddy. You gave the gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd web address and I was able to find the birth, but I don't know what happened to him. I can't find him in death records, but to my knowledge his brother born in May 1888 was the oldest child. I can't find the immigration record for David Stockham and Eliza Preddy Stockham. Perhaps the child is on that and then died in the States. How can I find out when David and Eliza Stockham immigrated and what happened to the child named Albert William Stockham? I appreciate any help you can give me.

David STOCKHAM 1844 Somerset -> NY State (reply)

stockampreddy — Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:46:31 +0000

Thank you all so much. It really does tie together now and answers other questions we had about the other David & Sarah Stockham living so close by. We thought the two families may have been related only one used Stockham with an "h" and the other didn't. I noted in the census they had a nephew living with them named Henry but we didn't know where he fit in. We didn't realize his whole name was Henry William. We had recorded the oldest brother of David John as William H. And actually thought perhaps he had died. We didn't realize he went by Henry.
You have answered so many questions for me and helped me to determine exactly where I will visit when I come to England this fall. I want to see the places where my ancestors came from and you have helped me to pinpoint those areas in Gloucestershire and fill in the gaps in my genealogy history. Also I have had a chance to read about the wonderful areas around the Forest of Dean and view the beautiful countryside and churches on line. Thank you.

David STOCKHAM 1844 Somerset -> NY State (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:41:06 +0000

{further evidence that this is the correct family )

The Uncle of David John STOCKHAM who went to Onondaga / Syracuse first
and probably explains perhaps why they went there...

and DJ's brother Henry is staying with the Uncle in 1880 too.

1892
Henry W Stockham abt 1859 city, Albany

Year: 1860
Month: Jan
Day: 29
Parents_Surname: STOCKAM
Child_Forenames: William Henry
Fathers_Forenames: Edward
Mothers_Forenames: Esther
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: East Dean
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m D Hall
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 523
Page_Number: 52
Parish_Chapel: Lea

Name: Henry William Stockham
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1860
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 204

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1880 Cicero, Onondaga, New York
David Stockham 35 England
Sarah Stockham 32 NY
William Stockham 10 NY
Emma Stockham 8 NY
Robert Stockham 6 NY
Elizabeth Stockham 4 NY
Henry Stockham 20 England nephew

1861
William Stockham abt 1800 East Brent, Somerset, England Head Badgworth, Somerset
David Stockham abt 1847 East Brent, Somerset, England Son Badgworth, Somerset

1851
William Stockham abt 1798 East Brent, Somerset, England Head East Brent, Somerset
Edward Stockham abt 1834 East Brent, Somerset, England Son East Brent, Somerset
Emma Stockham abt 1837 East Brent, Somerset, England Daughter East Brent, Somerset
Mary Stockham abt 1839 East Brent, Somerset, England Daughter East Brent, Somerset
David Stockham abt 1845 East Brent, Somerset, England Son East Brent, Somerset

Name: David Stockham
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1844
Registration district: Axbridge
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 10
Page: 327

1841
William Rackham abt 1801 Somerset, England East Brent, Somerset
Charlotte Rackham abt 1811 Somerset, England East Brent, Somerset
Edward Rackham abt 1832 Somerset, England East Brent, Somerset
Emma Rackham abt 1837 Somerset, England East Brent, Somerset
Mary Rackham abt 1839 Somerset, England East Brent, Somerset

Ages (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:35:43 +0000

Thank you once again. I guess the what keeps coming to mind is why Eliza Preddy (1868) and David John Stockam (1863) birthdates don't coincide with the birthdates on their grave stones here in the states (1870 and 1866). I think I have the right families but it puts a little doubt in my mind. Why wouldn't the dates be the same? I know from my mother that her grandfather David John Stockam married an Eliza Preddy in England and then came to America. I was always told they had eloped. Should I keep looking for other possibilities or accept the information I have as proof? How do I account for the variances in dates?
Thank you

It all looks to fit even given the variations

many people claim to get younger as in fact they get older :-)

also who ever commissioned the headstones may not have know how old Eliza and/or David were, just what they had been told / led to believe.

1930
David J Stockam name city, Onondaga, New York abt 1870 location info
Eliza Stockam name city, Onondaga, New York abt 1872 location

Anna Stockan name,
name city, Onondaga, New York abt 1886 location info
John Stockan name city, Onondaga, New York abt 1888 location info
Jeanne Stockan name,
name city, Onondaga, New York abt 1922 location info

1925 New York census
David Stockam abt 1873 name city, Onondaga
Eliza Stockam abt 1875 name city, Onondaga

Anna E Stockam abt 1886 name, name city, Onondaga
John D Stockam abt 1888 name city, Onondaga
Jeanne E Stockam abt 1922 name, name city, Onondaga

1920
David John Stockham name city, Onondaga, New York abt 1868 England info
Eliza Stockham name city, Onondaga, New York abt 1872 location info

1915 New York Census
David J Stockholm abt 1869 name city, Onondaga
Elizabeth Stockholm abt 1871 name city, Onondaga
Harry Stockholm abt 1897 name, name city, Onondaga

1910
David Stockham name city, Onondaga, New York abt 1867 England
Eliza Stockham name city, Onondaga, New York abt 1873 England

Year: 1886
Month: Mar
Day: 27
Grooms_Surname: STOCKHAM
Grooms_Forenames: David John
Grooms_Age: 21 {claims to be born circa 1865}
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Coal miner
Grooms_Residence: The Pludds
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Stockham
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Edward
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Coal miner
Brides_Surname: PREDDY
Brides_Forenames: Eliza
Brides_Age: 17 {claims to be born circa 1869}
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: The Pludds
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Preddy
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Coal miner
Licence_or_Banns: Supt Registrars
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: E Stockham
Witness_2: Mary Preddy
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 30
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

1881 Ruardean Woodside area ?
Edward Stockam abt 1841 East Brint, Somerset, England Head Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Jane Stockam abt 1851 Wedmore, Somerset, England Wife Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
David Stockam abt 1864 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Stockam abt 1868 Axbridge, Somerset, England Son Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alice Stockam abt 1872 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
flora Stockam abt 1876 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

1871 Worrall Hill Lydbrook
John Preddy 27
Julia Preddy 26
Priscilla Preddy 4
Eliza Preddy 3
Rhoda Preddy 2 Weeks

Name: Eliza Preddy
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1868
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 26

Name: David John Stockam
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1863
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 208

Locations (reply)

stockampreddy — Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:23:08 +0000

Thank you once again. I guess the what keeps coming to mind is why Eliza Preddy (1868) and David John Stockam (1863) birthdates don't coincide with the birthdates on their grave stones here in the states (1870 and 1866). I think I have the right families but it puts a little doubt in my mind. Why wouldn't the dates be the same? I know from my mother that her grandfather David John Stockam married an Eliza Preddy in England and then came to America. I was always told they had eloped. Should I keep looking for other possibilities or accept the information I have as proof? How do I account for the variances in dates?
Thank you

Locations (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:38:44 +0000

Slowhands: Thank you so much for the link to Holy Trinity in Drybrook. It confirmed the vicar who signed the marriage entry. Now I know the right place to visit on my visit to the UK. It is so confusing when looking at a map of the area with so many places listed on the marriage entry (Dean Forest, Holy Trinity, Westbury on Severn and Gloucestershire). I did not see any mention of Drybrook. The Pludds seem to be located close by Drybrook and that location is what is stated as the place where they were living at the time of the marriage.
I hope to finish getting the rest of the areas my ancestors lived pinpointed before my genealogy adventure to England.
Thank you

Worrall Hill, Upper Lydbrook

http://www.geograph.org.uk/showmap.php?gridref=SO6014

Pludds, Lybrook - Ruardean Hill
http://www.geograph.org.uk/showmap.php?gridref=SO6116

the Forest Church on Quarry Hill / Drybrook

http://www.geograph.org.uk/showmap.php?gridref=SO6416

John PREDDY/Julia SMITH (reply)

m p griffiths — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:03:51 +0000

Gloucestershirebdm

birth

Eliza PREDDY - 1868 - Forest of Dean, Monmouth, Coleford, - mother's maiden name : SMITH

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Marriage at Lydbrook - 7 February 1864

John PREDDY, age 20, Bachelor, Collier, residence: Lydbrook

father: John PREEDY, Collier,

married

Julia SMITH, Spinster, residence Lydbrook
father

Wiliam SMITH, Collier

by banns

witnesses: Charles & Mary PREDDY

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Using the Advance Search : children of John & Julia PREDDY - baptised at Lydbrook

Priscilla - 1866
Charles Ricard - 1873
Evelina - 1873
Rhoda - 1875
Emily Ann - 1875
Alice - 1877

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1871 Census, West Dean, Worral Hill

PREDDY

John - 27, Collier
Julia - 26
Priscilla - 4
Eliza - 2
Rhoda - 2 weeks

1881 Census, West Dean, Worral Hill

PRIDDY

Joh - 36 - born Lydbrook
Julia - 33
Eliza - 12
Roda - 10
Eveilend - 7

1891, West Dean, Lydbrook

PRIDDY

John - 46 Coal Miner
Julia - 43
Louisa - 8

Although the PREDDY's are living in Holy Jesus, West Dean, Gloucestershire, the actual 1901 census is under, Wales, Monmouthshire (because of the borders)

1901 Wales Census
Holbrook

PREDDY

John - 58 - Coal Miner
Julia - 54

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FOD records

Burial at Lydbrook - 31 March 1929

Julia PRIDDY

residence: Hill House, Monmouth

age at death: 89 years

STOCKAM / PREDDY families (reply)

stockampreddy — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:58:55 +0000

Slowhands: Thank you so much for the link to Holy Trinity in Drybrook. It confirmed the vicar who signed the marriage entry. Now I know the right place to visit on my visit to the UK. It is so confusing when looking at a map of the area with so many places listed on the marriage entry (Dean Forest, Holy Trinity, Westbury on Severn and Gloucestershire). I did not see any mention of Drybrook. The Pludds seem to be located close by Drybrook and that location is what is stated as the place where they were living at the time of the marriage.
I hope to finish getting the rest of the areas my ancestors lived pinpointed before my genealogy adventure to England.
Thank you

STOCKHAM/STOCKAM + HARRIS + SMITH (reply)

stockampreddy — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:55:21 +0000

Thank you for your most thorough and speedy reply.
I made an error on my original entry. The grave stone markers for David John and Eliza (Preddy) Stockam list 1866 as David's birth year but the only English records I could find and that you have so kindly confirmed list it as 1863. Likewise Eliza's birth year is listed on the stone as 1870, but the only English records I could find with John as the father were listed as 1868 in West Dean, Gloucestershire, but also lists town of Worral Hill and Monmouthshire. I believe the parish was Holy Jesus. Needless to say I am confused....Can you make any sense of this? Would it have anything to do with the family rumors of them eloping? Thanks

STOCKAM / PREDDY families (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:54:41 +0000

I was able to locate their marriage record through Ancestry.com and sent for a copy. I am trying to decipher the information on the document. The marriage is dated March 27,1886. At the top of the entry it says the marriage was solemized at Dean Forest in the district of Holy Trinity in the county of Gloucester. David John Stockham is listed as a coal miner aged 21 living in The Pludds at the time of marriage. His father is listed as Edward Stockham, a coal miner.
Eliza Preddy is aged 17 also living in The Pludds at the time of marriage. Her father is listed as John Preddy, a coal miner.

they were married at Holy Trinity Church Drybook http://www.forestchurch.org.uk/

Year: 1886
Month: Mar
Day: 27
Grooms_Surname: STOCKHAM
Grooms_Forenames: David John
Grooms_Age: 21
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Coal miner
Grooms_Residence: The Pludds
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Stockham
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Edward
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Coal miner
Brides_Surname: PREDDY
Brides_Forenames: Eliza
Brides_Age: 17
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: The Pludds
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Preddy
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Coal miner
Licence_or_Banns: Supt Registrars
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: E Stockham
Witness_2: Mary Preddy
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 30
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

STOCKHAM/STOCKAM + HARRIS + SMITH (reply)

m p griffiths — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:07:53 +0000

It would possibly seem, David John STOCKHAM is from Edward's first marriage to Esther and from Gloucestershirebdm - mother's maiden name SMITH, surname: STOCKAM - 1863, Newnham

+ two siblings

Henry William STOCKAM - mother's maiden name SMITH - 1869 - Forest of Dean, Westbury on Severn, Newnham
Sarah Emma STOCKAM - ditto - 1862

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FreeBDM

Marriage at Ross District: March Qtr 1859

Edward STOCKAM
Esther SMITH

Volume: 6a

Page: 669

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Ancestry Death Records:

Name: Hester STOCKAM

Estimated birth year: 1841

Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1869

Age at death: 28

Registration District: Axbridge

Inferred County: Somerset

Volume: 5c

Page: 457

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FreeBDM

Marriage at Axbridge District: A/M/J Qtr 1870

Edward STOCKAM
Jane HARRIS

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Looking at Public Members Tree on Ancestry

Esther SMITH - married Edward STOCKAM (STOCKHAM) age 18 in 1859 at the Lea parish in Hereford/Gloucester England
Their residence on the marriage certificate is listed as Dean Dean - (but gives conflicting 1851 census info for her parents)

and gives a death Esther 1869 - age 28, Somerset for Esther SMITH

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FOD records

Baptism at Drybrook - 27 December 1863

David John STOCKHAM - parents Edward (Collier) & Esther

residence: Cinderford

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this marriage is on the Fod Records on this site

Marriage at Drybrook - 27 March 1886

Grooms Surname: STOCKHAM

Grooms Forenames: David John

Grooms AgeL 21

Grooms Condition: Bachelor

Grooms Occupaion: Coal Miner

Grooms Residence: The Pludds

Grooms Fathers Forenames: Edward

Grooms Fathers Occupation: Coal Miner

married

Brides Surname: PREDDY

Bridges Forenames: Eliza

Brides Age: 17

Brides Occupation: Not stated

Brides Residence: The Pludds

Brides Fathers Surname: PREDDY

Brides Fathers Forenames: John

Bridges Fathers Occupation: CoalMiner

Licence or Banns: Supt Registrars

Date of Banns: not stated

Witnesses: E STOCKHAM and Mary PREDDY

Officiating Minster: William Barker - Vicar

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Gloucestershirebdm

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/mainmenu.aspx

Births:

Albert William STOCKHAM - 1887 Forest of Dean, Monmouth Coleford, mother's maiden name PREDDY

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1881 Census, Westbury on Severn, District 11 (East Dean, Holy Trinity)

STOCKAM

Edward - 40 - born East Brint, Somerset (see 1861 census)
Jane - born Wedmore, Somerset
David - 17 - born Glos. East Dean
James - 13 - born Axbridge, Somerset
Alice - 9 -born Glos. East Dean
Flora - 5 - born Glos. England

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FOD records - Baptism Forest of Dean Bible Christian - 15 September 1872

Alice Ellen STOCKHAM

parents: Edwin (so Edward goes also by the name Edwin)

and Jane

Collier

Memoranda: Baptised at Ruardean Chapel

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Baptism at Drybrook - 30 December 1874

Florence STOCKHAM

parents : Edward & Jane

residence: The Farm

Occupation: Foal Miner

Event: Baptism

Memoranda: Privately

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By using GloucestershireBDM

two births listed,

Surname: STOCKAM, mother's maiden name HARRIS

Ellen Alice - 1872, Forest of Dean, Westbury on Severn, Newnham
Florence - 1874 - Forest of Dean - ditto

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1871 Census, Somerset, Biddisham

STOCKHAM

Edward - 36 - born Badgeworth, Somerset
Jane - 23 - born Theal, Somerset
Emma - 9 - born Badgeworth (from Edward's first marriage: mother's maiden name SMITH
David - 6 - ditto (from Edward's first marriage: mother's maiden name SMITH
James H - 1 - born Axbridge

(Hester died in Somerset first qtr 1869 and Edward didn't marry Jane HARRIS 'til A/M/J Qtr 1870)

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Looking at the age gap - think this is Edward's second marriage and he is in Ruardean 1861 with his first family

1861 Census, Glos. Ruardean

Edward STOCKAM - 22 Coal Miner, born Somerset East Brant**
Esther - 21 - born Glos. East Dean
William H - 15 months

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FOD records, baptism at Lea - 29 January 1860

William Henry STOCKAM

parents: Edward, (labourer) and Esther

residence: East Dean