Forest of Dean FHT Forum - LOVERIDGE Pauntley / Newent area

LOVERIDGE Pauntley / Newent area (reply)

Loveridge — Wed, 07 Apr 2021 08:38:05 +0000

Hi Nick. Sorry but I cannot help you much with your specific questions; I have not researched in great detail this branch of my family - my direct ancestors came from Pauntley which is a neighbouring parish. Your JL and my direct ancestors join up in Pauntley in the 17th century. I would say that ages shown on gravestones are not necessarily reliable because many families did not keep written records. As for Mary Ann's name, my gt-gt-gt-gt grandfather (also a JL) was the third son to be called John - his two preceding brothers, baptised as John, both died in infancy. Unfortunately I do not know the name of the first wife of "your" JL and I have no record of any children. As you must know, "your" JL married on 13/05/1847 in Newent. For the record, in the 16th century the Loveridges moved from Dymock to Pauntley. Best regards, John.

LOVERIDGE Pauntley / Newent area (reply)

nicktoovey — Tue, 06 Apr 2021 16:25:18 +0000

Hello John,
thanks so much for your reply and information.
We are principally following the Gardner line of Mary-Anne's brother William who is the direct antecedent of my wife Frances nee Gardner, but we are keen to add as much detail as we can re siblings and others.
Mary Anne's grave is in Newent Town cemetery and states that she was 95 when she died in 1882, which would, if correct, mean that she was born circa 1787. We are sure that she was Newent born and bred.
But there are in fact two Mary Anne Gardners in the Baptism registers for Newent for the relevant period, one in 1790 and the other in early January 1796. The parents of both are shown as William and Mary Gardner - and the baptisms of other siblings are also recorded. We do not think there were two couples called William and Mary Gardner
We had guessed - although we have not found a death - that the first girl died and the parents decided to use the same name again ..... Her stated age on several Census returns suggest she was born in 1794/95 - although the4 1851 Census staes that she was then 61, ie born in 1790. Confusing!!
Whichever Mary Anne she was, she was no spring chicken and a spinster when she married John Loveridge , and he was in his early 50s if born in 1795. As you know, they were only married for 2 years or so before he died, she was the administrator of his estate and on the 1851 Census she is listed as farming 16 acres, presumably John's farm.
The marriage certificate describes him as "widower" - can you tell us about his first wife and whether there were any children? Our Mary Anne went blind later in life.
We have not been able to find her on the 1841 Census - she was not at home with her elderly mother who herself died on Christmas Day 1844, not long before Mary Anne married John Loveridge

Nick Toovey

LOVERIDGE Pauntley / Newent area (reply)

Loveridge — Tue, 06 Apr 2021 14:47:38 +0000

Hello. I am related to this John Loveridge. Mary Ann Gardner b 1790 Newent, d 1882 Newent, married John Loveridge Farmer of Botloes Green, Newent b 1795 Newent, d 1849 Newent. He was son of John Loveridge of Botloes Green, b 1753 Newent, d 1831 Newent, m Susanna Higgins b 1749, d 1832 Newent. I have traced this line back to 1533 if you want more details. John Loveridge

LOVERIDGE Pauntley / Newent area (reply)

nicktoovey — Tue, 06 Apr 2021 13:00:40 +0000

Hello,

My wife is descended from the Gardner family incl Mary Ann who married John Loveridge as noted in this string of posts.

If you want to know more about Mary Ann and her wider family, please get in touch

regards

Nick Toovey

thetooveys@gmail.com

LOVERIDGE Pauntley / Newent area (reply)

Loveridge — Fri, 30 Oct 2020 09:49:33 +0000

Many thanks for that. This Loveridge, who does not appear on my family tree, must be a distant relative. Keep up the good work!

LOVERIDGE Pauntley / Newent area (reply)

nimrod — Wed, 28 Oct 2020 15:41:50 +0000

Hi!

The will of William Loveridge of Ketford, Pauntley, dated 1700 names his wife, Jane, his sister, Elizabeth wife of William Phelpotts and brother, Richard. No children named. He was buried at Dymock. There is also an extensive inventory.

The detached part of Pauntley was joined to Oxenhall as late as 1883. (See the Tithe map of 1840 produced by Geoff Gwatkins, 1992.) Many of the parishioners used Oxenhall church as Pauntley church was so far away. So many Oxenhall bmd were recorded as people of Pauntley.

nimrod

LOVERIDGE Pauntley / Newent area (reply)

ddaniell — Tue, 23 Jun 2020 04:33:46 +0000

Hi, I have Loveridges too found 15 or 20 years ago when I was scratching about for ancestors. In no way has it been verified but:

Mary Gill married Thomas Loveridge and baptised Richard

Richard Loveridge was born 1648 and married Elizabeth Daniel(L)
daughter of John and Mary Daniell (probably of Redmarley D'Abitot) at Ledbury 21 October 1678

They had Robert 1685-1740 and John born 1687 but I know no more of Loveridges

I think Elizabeth Daniel(L) took with her to the Loveridge family patches of Daniell land (on which Daniells once regularly paid taxes) leaving my (junior male) branch without any. Late in the 1700s a young widowed ancestress of mine with 5 very small children seems to end up in Pauntley and live rent free. They moved a generation later to living in at Hazle Mill.

Just in case it interests anyone.
David Daniell

LOVERIDGE Pauntley / Newent area (reply)

Loveridge — Wed, 17 Jun 2020 08:15:12 +0000

Hi Julie. Don't get too excited! John Loveridge (1795 - 1849)of Botloes Green, Newent was the gt gt gt gt grandson of Giles Loveridge (1614 - 1689) who was the brother of my gt gt gt gt gt gt gt grandfather; hence the connection with me is quite remote. Whilst I have done a fair amount of detailed research on my branch of the family, I have no details of the said JL other than his ancestors back to 16th century; I believe that he had no children. What is your connection? Are we connected? John

LOVERIDGE Pauntley / Newent area (reply)

juliewilliams — Wed, 17 Jun 2020 01:40:52 +0000

Splendid! A definite connection! Do you know by any chance if there are records kept from their farm/estate? I wonder if it would be possible to track down names of other servants in the household? Can you tell me anything about the farm, what crops they grew, what the house was like, the barn, or anything? Are there any pictures anywhere? Hope you are well :)

LOVERIDGE Pauntley / Newent area (reply)

Loveridge — Sat, 13 Jun 2020 08:42:52 +0000

Hi Julie. I am connected to John Loveridge, farmer of Botloes Green, Newent; born 1795 Newent, died 1849 Newent. He married in Newent on 13/05/1847 Mary Ann Gardner who was born 1790 Newent and died 1882 Newent. Newent is, of course, not far from Pauntley and Dymock from where my anestors came. John L

LOVERIDGE Pauntley / Newent area (reply)

juliewilliams — Sat, 13 Jun 2020 00:32:06 +0000

Hello, is anybody out there?

My ancestor Sarah Pickthorne was listed as a servant in the household of Mary Ann Loberidge
in 1851, Mary Ann being a widow who had some property. Sarah Pickthorne's family lived at Castle Tump.

Here's what the record says:

1851 Glos. Census Sarah Pickthorne, 15, unmarried servant, born Dymock, lives with Mary Ann Loberidge,
Widow, Farmer On 116 acres, with 1 laborer. (could that laborer have been Edwin Silas Williams?)

If you are connected to this Mary Ann Loberidge (Loveridge) I would love to hear from you.

Julie

LOVERIDGE Pauntley / Newent area (reply)

sianb — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 19:26:30 +0000

Hi.I have enjoyed reading this Lov(e)ridge thread and am realising that they were quite a large and prolific family.

I have an Ann Lovridge who marries William Puckmore 3/5/1689 in Oxenhall, but both she and her husband were from Pauntley. I was wondering if you might have an idea as to why they didn't marry in Pauntly as they were both of that parish?

I'm also looking for her baptism and burial (may have a possible burial in Dymock 14/3/1719), but I've not found a baptism yet or a prior marriage.

Thank you for any help

Regards

Siân

LOVERIDGE 1699 (reply)

Loveridge — Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:42:21 +0000

Many thanks. This Thomas L is a distant relative of mine. John Loveridge

LOVERIDGE 1699 (reply)

richards — Sun, 16 Mar 2014 11:16:19 +0000

Berrow, Worcestershire
Thomas son of John Loveridg of the Parish of Pauntley in the County of Glocester,yeoman & Ann his wife was baptized 9 May 1699

Anno 1725 Thomas Loveridge of the Parish of Pauntley in the County of Gloucester & Sarah Shott of this Parish were married 23 April

LOVERIDGE - PAULL (reply)

Loveridge — Mon, 03 Feb 2014 09:25:28 +0000

Many thanks. In fact the John Loveridge died 1764 in Pauntley is my direct gt-gt-gt-gt grandfather. John Loveridge

LOVERIDGE - PAULL (reply)

MPGriffiths — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:35:43 +0000

Assume you belong to Ancestry - as the Will of 1764 is John LOVERIDGE of Pauntley - mentioned daughter Sarah, son John, + John LOVERIDGE of Churcham and Matthew PAULL of Newent

Fod Records

Burial at Newent - 10 September 1801

Matthew PAUL

Memoranda: Esq, Bachelor

and his Will (Matthew PAULL) is on Ancestry

11 February 1802 - Newent

LOVERIDGE - Men in Armour 1608 (reply)

Loveridge — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:29:29 +0000

Thanks for that. Since posting the original message I have progressed enormously with my research and I can confirm that one of the Thomas Ls is a direct ancestor and the other Ls mentioned are related. John Loveridge

LOVERIDGE - Men in Armour 1608 (reply)

MPGriffiths — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:08:17 +0000

http://www.coaley.net/glos1608/index.php

Dymock (Newent)

Humfry JOUES servant to Thomes LOVERIDGE junior yeoman A40 tallest stature

Thomas LOVERIDGE junior yeoman A40 tallest stature, trained

John LOVERIDGE of Morehouse husbandman A40 - tallest stature
(therefore Thomas/John c1568)

Thomas LOVERIDGE yeoman

Pauntley (Newent)

William LOVERIDGE husbandman A40 middle stature

(therefore William C1568)

Not too many male LOVERIDGE's able to fight in 1608

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Gloucestershire, England, Extracted Parish Records

Text: Thomas LOVERIDGE died at Dymock 12 oc (1625), 1 Charles 1st: John LOVERIDGE is his son and next heir, and was then aged 24 years and more

Book: Burialls 1604 (Burial)

Collection: Gloucestershire - Abstracts and Inquisitions Post Mortem, Court of Chancery in the region of Charles 1

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Ancestry

England & Wales Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills 1384 - 1858

3 Wills available to read on line

LOVERIDGE

John - 3 August 1764 - Gloucestershire
Thomas - 22 February 1793 - Newent
Thomas - 12 June 1813 - Newent

John LOVERIDGE of Pauntley, born 1742 (reply)

Loveridge — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:53:16 +0000

Hello Richard. You are probably right; however, when people adopted surnames/family names in the middle ages some families adopted the name of the place where they were living. Hence one cannot always be sure whether the place name or the surname came first. In a small way this still continues, my brother lives in rural central Wales where is neighbours do not use his surname - he is known as Alan of Pencwm! John.

John LOVERIDGE of Pauntley, born 1742 (reply)

RichardFranklin — Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:27:43 +0000

Hi John, Intriguing how place names are acquired. I have wondered how Baldwins Oak and Baldwins Farm derived their names.(Both alternatively spelled Baldwyns, usually without the apostrophe. The earliest form seems to have been with an 'i') I assume that at some time the land was owned or at least occupied by someone of that names. I have found no references to a 'Baldwin' individual at all, however.Intriguingly too, there is a finger post at Four Oaks pointing out the road to Baldwins Oak by name. It seems strange to have a house/farm marked out in this way as there never seems to have been an area called Baldwins Oak.

I would guess that the Loveridges references also refer to some ancient ownership or occupancy?
Richard