Forest of Dean FHT Forum - The Harts in Newnham

The Harts in Newnham (reply)

glostergirl — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:48:23 +0000

Susan

mmmm.. not sure as they seem to have moved to Old Windsor after 1871.....however

Its a bit of a saga so bear with me!!

William Head of House (b1840) took the family to Windsor. One of his sons Frederick (b1871) went to France and was a race horse trainer (married into the Cunningtons) his eldest Fred came back to England to escape the WWI. He came to Gloucester and from what I have been told learnt his trade as a baker under his uncle who I am assuming was Fredericks brother William (b 1862). His sister Lucie also came to England married and moved her family to Gloucester in WW2 (my grandmother)

Fred (my great uncle Fred) owned 2 bakeries 1 down Westgate st (which I think is still a bakery) and 1 in the grounds of what was Dunelm Mills on London Road.

So I am intrigued as to whether William stayed in this area or came back and why they moved (Im assuming work as was usual)so much, Wales, Bridgwater, Swansea, Windsor then back to Gloucester

The Harts in Newnham (reply)

Susan Johnson — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:46:59 +0000

I know of Harts in Longhope/ Blaisdon. Rueben was killed in Gallipolli and married Evelyn. They had sons Victor, Horace, Wally, Reg and Benjamin who died as an infant. Rueben was in the Gloucest Regiment- Colour Sgt. His father was David of Hinders Lane Longhope. I have a copy of their wedding photo with his sister as bridesmaid. Very Edwardian with cake frill hats taken in what appears to be an orchard. This may be a branch of the same family as it is not far from Bullo.

HART in Bullo Pill, Newnham (reply)

glostergirl — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 08:06:55 +0000

Thanks everso.

Had a long day trying to trace some family with absolutely no luck!!

Thought Id checked the registers but must have totally missed them (Doh!!)

What would I do without you???!!!!!

HART in Bullo Pill, Newnham (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 06:16:35 +0000

Have you checked the parish record transcriptions ?

there are a dozen or so including...

Year: 1875
Month: Nov
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: HART
Child_Forenames: Frederic James
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Lucy
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bullo
Occupation: Fitter
Officiating_Minister: T J Weight
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: born 1871
Register_Reference: P228 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 82
Parish_Chapel: Newnham

Year: 1875
Month: Nov
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: HART
Child_Forenames: Lily Lucy
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Lucy
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bullo
Occupation: Fitter
Officiating_Minister: T J Weight
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: born 1870
Register_Reference: P228 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 82
Parish_Chapel: Newnham

Year: 1875
Month: Nov
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: HART
Child_Forenames: Rosa Margaret
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Lucy
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bullo
Occupation: Fitter
Officiating_Minister: T J Weight
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P228 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 82
Parish_Chapel: Newnham

1871 Bullo Pill
William Hart abt 1840 Camarthan, Wales Head Newnham, Gloucestershire
Lucy Hart abt 1845 Bridgewater, Somerset, England Wife Newnham, Gloucestershire
Cecilia Ann Hart abt 1866 Swansea, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newnham, Gloucestershire
Samuel Hart abt 1869 Swansea, Gloucestershire, England Son Newnham, Gloucestershire
William J Hart abt 1864 Bridgewater, Somerset, England Son Newnham, Gloucestershire
Lilly Lucy Hart 9 months

1881
William Hart abt 1840 Carmarthenshire, Wales Head Old Windsor, Berkshire
Lucy Hart abt 1845 Bridgewater Wife Old Windsor, Berkshire
Annie Hart abt 1879 Old Windsor, Berkshire, England Daughter Old Windsor, Berkshire
Florence Hart abt 1877 Old Windsor, Berkshire, England Daughter Old Windsor, Berkshire
Frederick James Hart abt 1874 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Son Old Windsor, Berkshire
James Hart abt 1880 Old Windsor, Berkshire, England Son Old Windsor, Berkshire
Lily Hart abt 1871 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Old Windsor, Berkshire
Rosey Hart abt 1876 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Old Windsor, Berkshire
Samuel Hart abt 1869 Swansea Son Old Windsor, Berkshire
William John Hart abt 1864 Bridgewater Son Old Windsor, Berkshire

The Harts in Newnham

glostergirl — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 06:15:01 +0000

Im looking for info on the following. I dont think they would have been in Newnham for long as they seemed to move around a bit!!

Frederick James Hart born in Newnham 1874
Lily hart born in Newnham 1871
Rosey hart born in Newnham 1876

Parents were William and Lucy (born in Carmarthen and Bridgwater)after 1876 they moved to Windsor where they had other children they also had older children born in Bridgwater

William was a carriage fitter and a labourer, his eldest son was a baker in fact I think he owned a shop somewhere in Gloucestershire

Many thanks