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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David, <br />
I just Googled &quot;Fuller KSLI&quot; and found this file in the National Archives website which may be relevant to your family, perhaps, given that you already have two ancestors in the KSLI.</p>
<p>If you text-search this article for &quot;Fuller&quot; there are 17 hits, most if not all appear to relate to a W.J (Walter James) Fuller who rose to C.S.M during his WW1 service, also a J.W.Fuller and a mention of a William Fuller. Not to mention Air Vice Marshal J.L.F.Fuller Good C.V.O., M.B.E. !!</p>
<p>Perhaps a long shot, maybe this is a more common surname that I'd have thought, but if I were in your position I'd be lookingup their Army histories for possible family links.... </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=166-x6005&amp;cid=-1&amp;Gsm=2008-06-18#-1">http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=166-x6005&amp;cid=-1&amp;Gsm=20...</a></p>
<p>Hope its of interest.</p>
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<title>William Henry Fuller.  - Military Career (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prior thread was <br />
<a href="http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&amp;id=38044">http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&amp;id=38044</a></p>
<p>Hi David,<br />
I've found this truly excellent website covering the history of the King's Shropshire Light Infantry, a really great source of detailed information !</p>
<p><a href="http://www.britisharmedforces.org/li_pages/regiments/ksli/shrop_index.htm">http://www.britisharmedforces.org/li_pages/regiments/ksli/shrop_index.htm</a></p>
<p>Tomorrow I'll try and have a look at it, this detailed timeline looks a great starting point, I presume you know what Battalions they were in from their Service Records you've downloaded ?.<br />
<a href="http://www.britisharmedforces.org/li_pages/regiments/ksli/shrop_tl.htm">http://www.britisharmedforces.org/li_pages/regiments/ksli/shrop_tl.htm</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking in to George and William Lane Military history.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly seems to be the same one, are you related ? <br />
if so we may well be also related.   Have you found a copy of his enlistment documentation?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women eh ?. <br />
In this house it's the &quot;men&quot; namely me who moan abt the ink costs !!</p>
<p>You can often see why these records are referred to as the &quot;Burnt Records&quot; with sometimes having singed (sp?) edges.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David, pls see my post above, it seems we were both thinking and writing about George at the same time !<br />
It wasnt unusual to have more than one number, soldiers moved units especially if they'd been in Service a while, and their numbers changed accordingly. Also prewar different Regiments had different and independent numbering systems, so numbers could and were duplicated around the Army especially as it expanded; hence longer numbers with more digits were needed, plus in 1917 the Territorials had completely new numbers allocated (prewar the Army strength was abt 730,000 men, yet by 1918 over 8 million men and women had enlisted !). </p>
<p>Almost all and any questions re WW1 British Army are answered by the superb Long Long Trail site<br />
eg <a href="http://www.1914-1918.net/insights.htm">http://www.1914-1918.net/insights.htm</a></p>
<p><br />
A common army term prewar was &quot;ague&quot; which usually meant malaria. One of my Beard ancestors served in India and Malta in the 1870s, he seemed to spend all his first six years either on ships or in hospitals with ague !. It seems this served him well to spend several more years at the Glosters' Depot in Bristol.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>must have cost you a 'lot of black ink' the edges of these records are full of 'black areas'</p>
<p><br />
<em>'Gent's - I have now down-loaded'</em></p>
<p><br />
p.s. I'm a female!</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gents I have now downloaded a copy of the record from Ancestry,  Looks interesting,  he seemed to suffer badly with Malaria... <br />
I do not know what has happend to the medal unfortunately. .</p>
<p><br />
I also have got a copy of Williams Military Career,  he got as far as an RSM for the KSLI  - again his medals etc have also disappeared, but I do have his cane and overcoat.</p>
<p><br />
Looking at the record, <br />
George may have two numbers <br />
24981 and 665799 ???</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks MPG,</p>
<p>from the free-to-search National Archives website I've found his basic Medal Card, as you found on Ancestry:</p>
<p>Reference:WO 372/11/242919   (War Office File Reference)</p>
<p>Description: Medal card of Lane, George A </p>
<p>Corps, Regiment No, Rank </p>
<p>King's Shropshire Light Infantry, 24781, Private<br />
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Labour Corps, 665799, Private </p>
<p>Date: 1914-1920<br />
Held by: The National Archives, Kew<br />
<a href="http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D3294848">http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D3294848</a></p>
<p>His Army numbers are key to researching him. I must say it seems you've struck &quot;Gold&quot; here; I've lookedup scores of WW1 Soldiers, including several Lanes from the Forest area, while researching my mines. Altho virtually all of the men who served will have Medal Cards viewable on Ancestry, which give much useful information including if Wounded or Killed In Action (&quot;K.I.A&quot;)etc, I couldn't find any more Army Records (Service, Pension etc) for the vast majority of the one's I've lookedup (abt 2/3 of these records were destroyed during WW2 bombing).<br />
It is these full Records that are of most interest, especially if they've all remained intact; sometimes there's just a burnt scrap of a page, sometimes theres a dozen or more legible pages !. Ideally these Records contain personal information such as a soldier's appearance, his home details, next of kin, his service records including where/when served, disciplinary record, medical records etc etc. Need to be carefull though as sometimes the Ancestry photos have been mixedup, so occasionally the wrong pages are filed under the wrong name etc, always worth viewing film images either side of the supposed correct file slot. A soldier's Army number could and often did change as he moved about.</p>
<p>In this instance I suspect George was possibly a professional Soldier prior to WW1, given his baptism in 1875 ?? The above Records should show this, especially his &quot;Attestation&quot; (Enlistment) Papers which will quote his background.<br />
I have records of a soldier from the Longhope area who served many years before the War, then re-enlisted for WW1. He is clearly a proud &quot;old soldier&quot; as he emphasises this point within Census Forms &amp; Parish Records related to him. It was normal in peacetime to signup for say 6 years of Army Service PLUS 6 more as a Reservist, and this could be extended.</p>
<p>Sometimes we assume all the WW1 soldiers were youngsters; however at the start of the war the service was Voluntary; most &quot;old&quot; soldiers re-enlisted,  if you appeared fit &amp; able and were under 60years old they'd find you a role somewhere, especially if an old soldier. When Conscription was introduced the maximum age was 56, altho' at all times men &amp; boys lied to get in...<br />
The oldest British soldier to die in WW1 was Henry Webber who died in 1916 aged 68 !.</p>
<p>George's service shows him in the Labour Corps in his latter service. This tended to be where older or wounded/less-able soldiers would end their service days. They would be involved with the massive logistical effort to keep the frontline troops stocked with food, ammunition etc etc, usually overseas or in the UK; or perhaps they would be in the Royal Garrison Artillery defending Britain's sea ports etc. By 1917 the dire shortage of manpower to &quot;feed the guns&quot; (interprete that old saying either way!) meant that the UK was stripped bare of manpower and all men were needed.<br />
<a href="http://www.1914-1918.net/labour.htm">http://www.1914-1918.net/labour.htm</a></p>
<p>I hope this is of interest.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Amos Lane</p>
<p>Reg.No. 665799</p>
<p>Coy Labour Corps</p>
<p><br />
was a Private in the Kings Shropshire Light Infantry - enlisted 19 Feb 1916 - discharged 9 April 1919</p>
<p><a href="http://www.1914-1918.net/ksli.htm">http://www.1914-1918.net/ksli.htm</a></p>
<p>Malaria Fever contracted by Military Service October 1917  (B.S.F. Stavroo)</p>
<p><br />
81st 28th 43rd Mil Hospital Salonica</p>
<p>His war record mentions Shrewsbury/Pembroke etc - but he was in and out of hospital with his malaria attacks, poor chap.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
This post interested me as my great aunt, Gertrude POWELL married a man called  George LANE. She was born in Coleford but came to live in Monmouthshire when they married<br />
sylvia</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could this be the same gentleman as the earlier Baptism, lots of similarities ??<br />
I know it's not uncommon for the same chld to be Baptised twice, and I've seen an instance of this with one Record not mentioning a father and the other one does, dependant on whether the mother is trying to &quot;disown&quot; the true biological father, or trying to &quot;gain&quot; a more desirable one, or what.</p>
<p>In other words Alice got her son Baptised while at the Workhouse, then a few months later did it &quot;properly&quot; and quite locally when she was in better circumstances, but perhaps not with the true biological father ? </p>
<p>Record ID 398524 <br />
Entry Number  <br />
Year 1907 <br />
Month [not stated] <br />
Day 0 <br />
Parents Surname FULLER <br />
Child Forenames William Henry <br />
Fathers Forenames not stated <br />
Mothers Forenames Alice <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence West Dean <br />
Occupation  <br />
Officiating Minister S Johnson Master <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda Half Year ending Lady Day 1907; [born] March 27; Male; Illegitimate <br />
Notes probably baptised March or early April <br />
Register Reference  <br />
Page Number 29 <br />
Parish Chapel Monmouth Workhouse</p>
<p>For comparison the earlier record was:<br />
Record ID 127391 <br />
Entry Number 1496 <br />
Year 1907 <br />
Month Apr <br />
Day 28 <br />
Parents Surname FULLER <br />
Child Forenames William Henry <br />
Fathers Forenames Thomas William <br />
Mothers Forenames Alise (sic) <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence Goodrich <br />
Occupation Soldier <br />
Officiating Minister C.F.Doddrell Rector <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda Born March 22 1907 <br />
Notes note in left margin <br />
Register Reference P138 in 1/5 <br />
Page Number 187 <br />
Parish Chapel English Bicknor </p>
<p>I think these are the ONLY William Henry Fuller baptisms on the FoD PRs site.<br />
If possible it might be interesting to find out if Thomas William was still a serving soldier around mid 1906, and if so where....</p>
<p>---------</p>
<p>From FreeBMD here's the relevant Birth Register Records for that period:</p>
<p>Surname   Given Name   District   Volume   Page   Transcribers   <br />
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Births Jun 1907 <br />
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FULLER William Henry Monmouth 11a 30a dbiggins  <br />
FULLER William Henry Monmouth 11a 30a vat </p>
<p>AND</p>
<p>Surname   Given Name   District   Volume   Page   Transcribers   <br />
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Births Dec 1907 <br />
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FULLER William Henry Monmouth 11a 29 Monte  <br />
Fuller William Henry Monmouth 11a 29 LAO </p>
<p>So both the above Baptisms &quot;fit&quot; the first Registration, for April/May/June.</p>
<p>Now I realise this isn't the rarest of names, however I suspect two separate births of this combination in such close proximity and timescale are unlikely ?. Especially as these are the only such records shown in Monmouth District for all time periods covered.</p>
<p>Also on FreeBMD and of POSSIBLE relevance is this:<br />
Surname   Given Name   District   Volume   Page   Transcriber   <br />
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Births Mar 1908 <br />
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Fuller William Henry Pontypool 11a 224 jacqui</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,<br />
I'd be very interested to know what you can find re his Military record, and from which site, please. I use both Ancestry &amp; FMP, albeit only the free Library versions, and I have a particular interest in military research and indeed have spent time researching other local Lanes in this respect. It seems to me that altho' Ancestry seem to have the majority of &quot;basic&quot; Army Records covered, more so than FindMyPast, occasionally additional perhaps key details can be obtained from FMP for the same soldier. </p>
<p>That said, my own quick search of FMP for George Lane doesn't in this case seem to give records for him, sadly, but worth further investigation once you have his Army number etc.<br />
<a href="http://www.findmypast.co.uk/MilitarySearchCountServlet?mode=B">http://www.findmypast.co.uk/MilitarySearchCountServlet?mode=B</a></p>
<p>If you know what Regiment he served in etc I might well be able to give you some background info if you want it.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Alice's brother Ernest's records are on there too.</p>
<p>Do you have the actual birth certificate of Thomas William - as the information may be 'different' - and FULLER might just be the mother's name -</p>
<p><br />
as I have a birth certificate of</p>
<p>Thomas Edgar WICKENDEN - born in Swindon, Wiltlshire - 8 June 1900 -</p>
<p><br />
His mother was Eveline Fanny LANE (formerly WICKENDEN) - Lane and Formerly crossed out....</p>
<p>Eveline never married - but the father's name is given as <strong>William Thomas LANE</strong> (do you know who he was?)- and this has all been crossed out!</p>
<p><br />
Never found out who he was.</p>
<p><br />
Eveline Fanny was my Grandad's sister from Blakeney and came to Swindon (where my Grandad had moved to) - to give birth and subsequently, Thomas Edgar was adopted in Swindon.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not seen that about the WW1 record. </p>
<p>I will have to check my ancestry access.   :)   <br />
I have full access to FMP.co.uk ..</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assume you have access to Ancestry - which has George Amos LANE's WW1 record on there.</p>
<p>i.e. 5'3&quot; tall - serviced in Salonica - and suffered from Malaria etc.</p>
<p><br />
FOD records</p>
<p>Baptism at Walford, 30 August 1875</p>
<p>George Amos LANE</p>
<p>parent James (labourer) &amp; Phoebe</p>
<p><br />
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<p><br />
FOD records</p>
<p><br />
Marriage at  Bishopswood - 20 April 1908</p>
<p><br />
George LANE age 29 - Bachelor, Quarryman - residence, Bishopswood</p>
<p>father: James LANE</p>
<p>married</p>
<p>Alice FULLER, age 21, Spinster - residence: Bishopswood</p>
<p>father: Robert FULLER, labourer</p>
<p><br />
witnesses: Joseph LANE, Emily FULLER</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possible Cousin of Alice ?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks, </p>
<p>This is the right William Fuller ( Lane )   I have his death cert,  died in Cinderford <br />
in 1975 just after my father got married of Cancer. </p>
<p>What i'm trying to establish is who is his father if possible,    no details are logged in the 1911 census,  under his mother Alice Elizabeth Fuller / Lane she was married to George Amos Lane.. for the ROss / FOD area ? </p>
<p>However there is a note on his baptism record on the side  I was hoping it may provide an additional clue ? </p>
<p>Any help greatly appreciated..   This is a real mystery.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ancestry Death Index</p>
<p>William Henry LANE - dob : 22 March 1907</p>
<p>died J/A/S Qtr 1975 - age 68 - FOD District</p>
<p><br />
assume his mother was Alise LANE?  trying to him William on the 1911 census - did Alise marry?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the parish records on this site there is a Thomas William Fuller baptised at Monmouth on 6 June 1858 the son of Richard (a chairmaker) &amp; Margaret.</p>
<p>The note is the margin is the date of birth.</p>
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