Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Thos HIGGINS & Mary Anne VINES

Thos HIGGINS & Mary Anne VINES (reply)

irenecoutts8 — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 06:55:04 +0000

Thank you Jeff. I do have a considerable amount of info on this family but am trying to find any evidence of an Andrew or Aubrey being found hung in FOD.
My info re Andrew & Aubrey was relayed a couple of times over and I agree the
surname may not have been Higgins which is why I was enquiring about Andrew Giles
who would have been a cousin of both my father and the cousin who told him (she was
Kate's daughter). Not knowing the approximate time of this hanging makes the search more difficult.
However, thanks to the posting the other day I now know it was not Andrew Giles.
You never know, some information may come to light one of these days.

Thos HIGGINS & Mary Anne VINES (reply)

Jefff — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:07:24 +0000

Hi Irene and a belated welcome to the forum.
I expect you've found them by now but searching this site's PRs gives;

Record ID 1823
Entry Number 123
Year 1868
Month Sep
Day 2
Grooms Surname HIGGINS
Grooms Forenames Thomas
Grooms Age 32
Groom Condition Widower
Grooms Occupation Waggoner
Grooms Residence Blisters
Grooms Fathers Surname Higgins
Grooms Fathers Forenames William
Grooms Fathers Occupation Labourer
Brides Surname VINES
Brides Forenames Mary Anne
Brides Age 30
Brides Condition Spinster
Brides Occupation [not stated]
Brides Residence Blisters
Brides Fathers Surname Vines
Brides Fathers Forenames George
Brides Fathers Occupation Labourer
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of Banns
Signature or Mark Both mark
Witness 1 Thomas Batten
Witness 2 Mark of Mary Roberts
Other Witnesses
Officiating Minister Cornelius Witherby Vicar
Event Marriage
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P57 IN 1/8
Page Number 62
Parish Chapel Bream

Record ID 4121
Entry Number 711
Year 1870
Month Aug
Day 28
Parents Surname HIGGINS
Child Forenames William
Fathers Forenames Thomas
Mothers Forenames Mary Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence Breams Woodside
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister C Matthew Perkins Off. Min
Event Baptism
Memoranda [1] son of. [2] Sponsors George Whittaker Charles Treherne Elizth White
Notes
Register Reference P57 IN 1/3
Page Number 89
Parish Chapel Bream

Record ID 4292
Entry Number 87
Year 1873
Month Aug
Day 31
Parents Surname HIGGINS
Child Forenames Rosina
Fathers Forenames Thomas
Mothers Forenames Mary Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence Mill Hill
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister J F Gosling
Event Baptism
Memoranda Sponsers George Whittaker Sarah Jane Crewe Mary Ann Higgins
Notes
Register Reference P57 IN 1/4
Page Number 11
Parish Chapel Bream

Record ID 4451
Entry Number 255
Year 1876
Month May
Day 7
Parents Surname HIGGINS
Child Forenames Albert
Fathers Forenames Thomas
Mothers Forenames Mary Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence Mill Hill
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister J F Gosling
Event Baptism
Memoranda Sponsers Thomas Jones Mary Ann Higgins
Notes
Register Reference P57 IN 1/4
Page Number 32
Parish Chapel Bream

Record ID 4627
Entry Number 444
Year 1879
Month Aug
Day 31
Parents Surname HIGGINS
Child Forenames Kate
Fathers Forenames Thomas
Mothers Forenames Mary Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence Woodside
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister J F Gosling
Event Baptism
Memoranda Sponsers Th Kear M A Higgins
Notes
Register Reference P57 IN 1/4
Page Number 56
Parish Chapel Bream

Record ID 33690
Entry Number 465
Year 1882
Month Apr
Day 2
Parents Surname HIGGINS
Child Forenames Charles
Fathers Forenames Thomas
Mothers Forenames Mary Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence Littledean
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister William Lockitt
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P110 IN 1/7
Page Number 59
Parish Chapel Littledean

I cannot find any Andrew or Aubrey HIGGINS on the FoD database, or GlosBMD, altho they may have had other surnames and still been uncles, perhaps ?.

HIGGINS (reply)

irenecoutts8 — Sun, 25 Aug 2013 07:01:03 +0000

Thank you for the info on the death of Andrew Giles.
I am a granddaughter of Charles Higgins, youngest son of Thomas Higgins & Maryann Vines. My father heard from a cousin of his that they also had an Uncle Andrew and
Uncle Aubrey and that one of them had been found hanged in the Forest of Dean.
Have you heard of such a story?
In my research I have not come across an Andrew or Aubrey Higgins.

GILES (reply)

Hilsandjohn — Fri, 23 Aug 2013 21:23:59 +0000

Andrew Giles was my late grandfather, he died from TB but did work down the coal mines in cinderford

GILES (reply)

irenecoutts8 — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:08:27 +0000

Thank you to Harry Brook for that information.

GILES (reply)

HarryBrook — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:48:00 +0000

The Dean Forest Mercury for 1940 is not available on microfilm at Cinderford Branch Library and therefore the originals are unlikely to be available in the archive at The Forester office in High Street, Cinderford.

GILES (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:24:48 +0000

Is there anyway of finding out the cause of death of these two men other than buying the Death Certificates?

Am I able to access Inquest info online as I am in Australia and do have a query re a
hanging in the Forest of Dean.

You should be able to access the Inquests. Newspaper articles might hold the answer, other than that then Certs is probably the answer....

GILES (reply)

irenecoutts8 — Tue, 22 Jan 2013 23:49:03 +0000

Thank you for the info.
I can see a lot of work here.

Is there anyway of finding out the cause of death of these two men other than buying the Death Certificates?

Am I able to access Inquest info online as I am in Australia and do have a query re a
hanging in the Forest of Dean.

Andrew GILES Littledean / Cinderford 1897 - 1940 (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:12:35 +0000

I have found two death registrations (one after the other) and am wondering if there was a colliery disaster or accident at the time.

Andrew GILES, aged 43, was buried on 20th February 1940 and
Ernest Albert GILES, aged 55, was buried on 22nd February 1940.

These two were both buried at St John's Cinderford.
They were not brothers but probably cousins.

Does anyone have any information on what may have happened?

A quick scan of the Inquest and Mine fatalities doesn't show a Giles or mine accident in the timeframe.

1939 St Annals rd Cinderford
Andrew Giles 13 Jan 1897 Male Motor Driver (Unemployed) Married 203 1
Mabel A Giles 07 Jun 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 203 2
Kathleen M Adams (Giles) 04 Sep 1920 Female Domestic Servant Single 203 3
Ronald W Giles 25 Aug 1921 Male Aircraft Labourer Single 203 4
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.

1911 Dockham Rd Cinderford
William Giles 45
Mary Giles 42
Andrew Giles 14
Johnson W Giles 8
Rosenea C Giles 4

Andrew GILES 1897

GILES Andrew
GILES HIGGINS
1897 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 5 2

1901
William Giles abt 1865 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head Littledean, Gloucestershire
Mary Giles abt 1868 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Wife Littledean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Giles abt 1889 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Littledean, Gloucestershire
Andrew Giles abt 1897 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Son Littledean, Gloucestershire
Rosina Giles abt 1900 Mordy, Glamorgan, Wales Niece Littledean, Gloucestershire

GILES Andrew
WATKINS Mabel Alice
Forest of Dean Cinderford Baptist Chapel
1919 3 11

Albert Ernest GILES 1884

GILES Albert Ernist
GILES MILLER
1884 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 52 372

1901
Edwd Giles abt 1862 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizth Giles abt 1864 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Walter Giles abt 1884 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ernest Giles abt 1885 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Rose Giles abt 1887 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sidney Giles abt 1892 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizth Giles abt 1900 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Jesse Durham abt 1888 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Stepson East Dean, Gloucestershire
Corneline Durham abt 1891 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Stepson East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Durham abt 1893 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Stepson East Dean, Gloucestershire

GILES Ernest Albert
HIGGINS Rose Elizabeth
Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office
1911 15 109

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1871 east Dean
Edward Giles 35 cricklade
Charlotte Giles 36
Frederick Giles 12
Edward Giles 10 Highnam
George Albert Giles 6
Aubert Giles 4
Willie Giles 2
Samuel Giles 4 Months

1871 East Dean
William Giles 32 cricklade
Unice Giles 29
William Giles 6
Henry Giles 4
James Giles 3
John Giles 1
Thomas Williams 26
Rhoda Williams 23

1851
Jacob Giles abt 1815 Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire, England Head Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire
Elizabeth Giles abt 1817 Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire, England Wife Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire
Lucy Giles abt 1837 Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire, England Daughter Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire
William Giles Jabt 1839 Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire, England Son Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire
George Giles abt 1842 Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire, England Son Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire
John Giles abt 1844 Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire, England Son Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire
Charles Giles abt 1847 Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire, England Son Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire
Ann Giles abt 1850 Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire, England Daughter Cricklade St Sampson, Wiltshire

GILES

irenecoutts8 — Tue, 22 Jan 2013 06:33:32 +0000

I have found two death registrations (one after the other) and am wondering if there was a colliery disaster or accident at the time.

Andrew GILES, aged 43, was buried on 20th February 1940 and
Ernest Albert GILES, aged 55, was buried on 22nd February 1940.

These two were both buried at St John's Cinderford.
They were not brothers but probably cousins.

Does anyone have any information on what may have happened?