Forest of Dean FHT Forum - DRAYTON, Newport Wales

DRAYTON, Newport Wales (reply)

idarusty — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:18:14 +0000

Following is information on the Christening and Death of John James Mead Drayton, son of William Drayton and Elizabeth Mead. Also information on his marriage to Mary Morgan, daughter of William Morgan and Jane Jones.

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John James Mead Drayton:
Christened: 24 Nov 1825 at Barrington, Somerset, England

Barrington Baptisms 1813-1894

Reproduction of the following transcribed records is permitted by
the Somerset Archive and Record Service with the proviso that
any subsequent copying is free of profit.
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Parish - Barrington
Date of Birth / Notes - [Blank]
Baptism Date - 1825 24 Nov
Record No. - 250
Page No. - 32
Surname - DRAYTON
First Name - John James Mead
Fathers Surname - DRAYTON
Fathers First Name - DRAYTON, William
Mothers Surname - [Blank]
Mothers First Name - DRAYTON, Elizabeth
Place / Residence - Barrington
Fathers Occupation - Labourer
Vicar - Edward COMBE
Index Number - 250."
[Barrington Parish Records located at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~parishregisters/somerset/barrington/Barrington...
Date Viewed: 24 February 2006

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John James Mead Drayton
Died: 9 Mar 1864 at Newport, Monmouth, Wales

Certified Copy of an Entry of Death
Given at the General Register Office
Application Number - COL196554
Registration District - Newport Mon
1864 Death in the Sub District of Newport in the County of Monmouth

Reproduction of actual entry.
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Column No. - 325
1. When and Where Died:
Ninth March 1864
Cross Street Newport
2. Name and Surname
John Drayton
3. Sex: Male
4. Age: 38 Years
5. Occupation:
Shopkeeper
6. Cause of Death:
Disease of the Lungs 2 years Certified
7. Signature, description, and residence of informant:
X the mark of Ann Watkins Present at the death Cross Street Newport
8. When Registered:
Tenth March 1864
9. Signature of Registrar:
W. Divans Registrar
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Certified to be a true copy of an entry in the certified copy of a Register of Deaths in the District above mentioned.

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John James Mead Drayton married Mary Morgan
29 Apr 1849 at Caerleon, Monmouth, Wales

Certified Copy of an Entry of Marriage
Given at the General Register Office
Application Number: COL196554

Reproduction of actual entry:
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1849 Marriage solemnized at the Baptist Chapel Caerleon
in the District of Newport in the Counties of Monmouth and Glamorgan

No. 142
When Married: Twenty-ninth of April 1849
Name and Surname: John Drayton Mary Morgan
Age: 23 Years 20 Years
Condition: Bachelor Spinster
Profession: Baker [Blank]
Residence at
the Time of Marriage: Club Row, Newport Caerleon
Father's Name
and Surname: William Drayton William Morgan
Profession of Father: Labourer Hoopmaker

Married in the Baptist Chapel, Caerleon according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Baptists by me, James Evans, Minister
This Marriage was solemnized between us,
John Drayton
Mary Morgan

In the Presence of us,
James Morgan
The mark X of Ann Drayton

W. D. Evans, Registrar
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Certified to be a true copy of an entry in the certified copy of
a Register of Marriages in the Registration District of Newport
Monmouth

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Mary Morgan, daughter of William Morgan and Jane Jones
Christened: 8 Feb 1829 at Christchurch, Monmouth, Wales

Christchurch Baptisms 1813 - 1837

Baptism Date Surname ChildsGiven ParentsNames Parish Occupation
26 Jan 1817 Morgan William William & Jane Caerleon Lab
16 May 1819 Morgan John William & Jane Christchurch Hoopshaver
28 Nov 1821 Morgan James William & Jane Christchurch Hoopshaver
8 April 1827 Morgan Edward William & Jane Christchurch Hoopshaver
8 April 1827 Morgan Eliza William & Jane Christchurch Hoopshaver
8 April 1827 Morgan James William & Jane Christchurch Hoopshaver
8 Feb 1829 Morgan Joseph William & Jane Christchurch Hoopmaker
8 Feb 1829 Morgan Mary William & Jane Christchurch Hoopmaker

Note how they had some of their children Baptized at the same time.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monfamilies/Christchurch%20Bap%201813-37%20H-M...
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Mary Morgan:
Death: 7 March 1890 Cross Street, Newport, Monmouth, Wales

BMD references - Here is the full information from certificates (reply)

idarusty — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:43:41 +0000

Have the certificates for the Marriage of William Drayton to Ellen Dobbs and for the birth of their daughter Annie Drayton.

They were married 9 June 1870 in Newport, Monmouth, Wales

Annie was born 24 March 1871 at Marshes Road, Newport, Monmouth, Wales

Dobbs / James marriage Hope Mansell (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 23:50:11 +0000

I'll throw this in the melting pot as its on the East Dean "boundary"

THOMAS DOBBS
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Marriages:
Spouse: ANN JAMES
Marriage: 27 DEC 1825 Hope Mansell, Hereford, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M138921 1602 - 1629 0992807 Film NONE
M138921 1665 - 1885 0992807 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Dobbs / Drayton (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 23:28:14 +0000

Just remember the adult ages in 1841 are "often" rounded down to multiples of 5

Dobbs / Drayton (reply)

lea — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:55:59 +0000

thanks so much. most helpful!
Especially the 1841 Dobbs which lists
Ann as age 40 so she must be mother.
Yippee one more piece to puzzle.

Thanks again.

DRAYTON, Newport Wales (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:11:44 +0000

1871 40 Marshes Rd , Newport
William Drayton abt 1850 Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Newport Monmouthshire Railway Policeman
Ellen Drayton abt 1840 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newport Monmouthshire
Ann Drayton abt 1871 Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Newport Monmouthshire
Sarah Williams abt 1855 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Niece Newport Monmouthshire

1861 ?

1851 Bream Place (?) Newport
John Drayton abt 1826 Somerset, England Lodger Newport Monmouthshire Baker
Mary Drayton abt 1829 Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Newport Monmouthshire
Wm Drayton abt 1849 Monmouthshire, Wales Son Newport Monmouthshire

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Name: Drayton, John
Record Type: Deaths
Quarter: March
Year: 1864
District: Newport M
County: Glamorgan Gwent Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 149

1841 Commercial St
Hopkin Hopkins abt 1809 Newport Monmouthshire
Helen Davis abt 1824 Monmouthshire, Wales Newport Monmouthshire
John Drayton abt 1825 Newport Monmouthshire Confectioner
Willm Neckardge abt 1823 Newport Monmouthshire

JOHN DRAYTON
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 29 APR 1827 North Petherton, Somerset, England

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Parents:
Father: JOHN DRAYTON
Mother: ELIZABETH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
P002591 1558 - 1837 0908499, 0908500 Film 0472195 Film
P002591 1558 - 1837 0908499, 0908500 Film NONE
P002591 1558 - 1837 0908499, 0908500 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

James DOBBS in 1880 Illinois (!) (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:48:06 +0000

1880 Braidwood, Will, Illinois
James DOBBS Self M Male W 48 ENG Works In Coal Mine ENG ENG
Matilda DOBBS Wife M Female W 46 ENG Keeping House ENG ENG
William DOBBS Son S Male W 24 ENG Engineer At Coal Mine ENG ENG
Harry DOBBS Son S Male W 21 ENG Coal Miner ENG ENG
Joseph DOBBS Son S Male W 17 ENG ENG ENG
Annie DOBBS Dau S Female W 15 ENG Keeping House ENG ENG
Nellie DOBBS Dau S Female W 12 ENG ENG ENG
Lillie DOBBS Dau S Female W 9 IL ENG ENG
Arthur DOBBS Son S Male W 7 IL ENG ENG
Matilda G. DOBBS Dau S Female W 5 IL ENG ENG

Family History Library Film 1254261
NA Film Number T9-0261
Page Number 462A

Ellen DOBBS in Wales 1861 ( with brothers James and Thomas) (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:47:28 +0000

1861 11 Hill Street
James Dobbs abt 1833 Conderford, Gloucestershire, England Head Aberystruth Monmouthshire
Matilda Dobbs abt 1835 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Wife Aberystruth Monmouthshire
Henry Dobbs abt 1860 Blaina, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Aberystruth Monmouthshire
Thomas Dobbs abt 1858 Blaina Monmouthshire Son Aberystruth Monmouthshire
William J Dobbs abt 1856 Monmouthshire Son Aberystruth Monmouthshire

Ellen Dobbs abt 1840 Cinford, Gloucestershire, England Sister Aberystruth Monmouthshire
Thomas Dobbs abt 1835 Cinford, Gloucestershire, England Brother Aberystruth Monmouthshire

I wonder if this is James' marriage ??
Name: Dobbs, James
Record Type: Marriages
Quarter: December
Year: 1854
District: Abergavenny
County: Herefordshire Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 82

Could this be James' wife Matilda ?
1851
Joseph Rogers abt 1818 Sithney, Cornwall, England Head Llanelly Breconshire
Elizabeth Rogers abt 1817 Pensford, Somerset, England Wife Llanelly Breconshire
Joseph Rogers abt 1845 Fra B S Son Llanelly Breconshire
Matilda Rogers abt 1835 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Daughter Llanelly Breconshire
William Rogers abt 1843 Pensford, Somerset, England Son Llanelly Breconshire
Elizabeth Rogers abt 1849 Aberystruth, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Llanelly Breconshire
Henry Rogers abt 1847 Fra B S Son Llanelly Breconshire
Ann Rogers abt 1837 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter Llanelly Breconshire
Edward Rogers abt 1851 Llanelly, Breconshire, Wales Son Llanelly Breconshire
James Price abt 1823 Pensford, Somerset, England Brother-in-law Llanelly Breconshire

DOBBS , Ruspidge , East Dean 1841 census (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:36:36 +0000

1841 HO 107 / 365 / 9 Folio 36 Ruspidge

Thomas DOBBS 40 Coal Miner
Ann 40
Lucy 12
James 9
Thomas 7
William 5
Ellen 2

All born in county

BMD references (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:54:50 +0000

Name: DOBBS, Ellen
Name: DRAYTON, William
Record Type: Marriages
Quarter: June
Year: 1870
District: Newport M
County: Glamorgan Gwent Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 309

Name: DRAYTON, Ann
Record Type: Births
Quarter: June
Year: 1871
District: Newport M
County: Glamorgan Gwent Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 172

Ellen DOBBS /DRAYTON 1880 census (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:46:01 +0000

1880 Braidwood, Will, Illinois

Wm. DRAYTON Self M Male W 31 ENG Works In Coal Mine ENG ENG
Ellen DRAYTON Wife M Female W 41 ENG Keeping House ENG ENG
Fannie DRAYTON Dau S Female W 9 ENG ENG ENG
T. John DRAYTON Son S Male W 8 IL ENG ENG
Wm. J. DRAYTON Son S Male W 5 IL ENG ENG

Family History Library Film 1254261
NA Film Number T9-0261
Page Number 464B

DOBBS of East Dean

lea — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:30:15 +0000

I am looking for Dobbs family in East Dean

per the 1851 Census:

Thomas Dobbs head widower age 52 occupation miner born Gloshire East Dean
Ann daughter unmarried age 23
Lucy daughter unmarried age 22
Thomas son unmarried age 16 occupation miner
William son age 14 occupation haulier
Ellen daughter age 11
Mary Ann daughter age 2 months
All children born Gloshire East Dean

per the 1861 Census:

Thomas Dobbs head widower age 63 occupation labourer born Gloshire East Dean
Lucy daughter unmarried age 33 occupation housekeeper
Mary Ann granddaugher age 10
Belinda granddaughter age 7
Emily grandaughter age 4
All children born Gloshire East Dean

Ellen was my great-great-great-grandmother. She married William Drayton born 1849 in Newport Wales. They married in 1870 and
in 1871 with infant daughter Annie immigrated to Illinois US.

Any Dobbs info would be most appreciated.
thanks