Forest of Dean FHT Forum - TURNER + MORGAN

TURNER + MORGAN (reply)

rowandean — Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:38:32 +0000

Slowhands, thank you very much.

The l88l census information regarding Thomas Turner and Susan Turner is my great grandfather and great grandmother. Their daughter Elizabeth is my grandmother. The l872 information regarding Susan Morgan and Thomas Turner seems a likely line to follow.

It would also appear that I have Penn/Pritchard connection in common with Ann Suttie.

Once again, many thanks.

Yours, Margaret Baldwin

TURNER + MORGAN (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:04:45 +0000

This needs a lot more work !

1881
Thomas Turner 37 Mon
Susan Turner 35 East Dean
Annie Turner 7
Elizabeth Turner 5
Ellen Turner 3
Emily Turner 1
Fred Turner 15

1871
Thomas Turner 20 Cinderford
Susanah Turner 24 Blaenavon
Frank Turner 5 Cinderford

Name: Susan Morgan
Name: Thomas Turner
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 388

1861 English Bicknor ?
Charles Morgan 73
Mary Morgan 82
Susan Morgan 15 grandaughter Mon

1861 Old Engine ?
Robert Turner 54
Sarah Turner 52
Thos Turner 20

1851 English Bicknor ?
Charles Morgan 66
Mary Morgan 70
Henry Morgan 26
James Morgan 19

1851 looks like Winsey Green
Robert Turner 45
Sarah Turner 41
Mary Anne Turner 18
Roseana Turner 12
Thomas Turner 10
William Turner 20

1841 Old Engine
Robert Terner abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Sarah Terner abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Mary Terner abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Roshanah Terner abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Thomas Terner abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Willam Terner abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire

1841
Charles Morgan abt 1786 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English Gloucestershire
Mary Morgan abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English Gloucestershire
James Morgan abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English Gloucestershire
William Morgan abt 1821 Bicknor English Gloucestershire

Thomas PENN Jane PRITCHARD Lydbrook / Walford (reply)

rowandean — Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:17:26 +0000

Many thanks, slowhands. I have another avenue for me to go, ie. the Pritchard Family.

On my Mother's side I am researching Thomas Turner born l844 and his wife, Susan Turner who was born in Monmouth in 1846. I cannot find anything that refers to her maiden name. My mother, who died in 1999 at the age of 99, always said that her maiden name was Morgan, but it could have been Morris.

Perhaps you may have some information on the above.

Many thanks,

Margaret Baldwin

Thomas PENN Jane PRITCHARD Lydbrook / Walford (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:14:41 +0000

He was living in Flaxley/Littledean and Newnham enumeration district, his place of birth is recorded as East Dean then West Dean; East Dean would certainly fit with Lydbrook, and West Dean would fit with the Worral Hill side of the valley leading from Upper Lydbrook down to Lydbrook ( on the River Wye)

Thomas PENN and Jane PRITCHARD marriage in Lydbrook :-

Year 1853
Month Aug
Day 27
Groom Surname PENN
Groom Forename(s) Thomas
Groom Age at Marriage Of f
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession Labourer
Groom Residence East Dean
Groom Father's Surname PENN
Groom Father's Forename(s) Thomas
Groom Father's Rank or Profession Blacksmith
Bride Surname PRITCHARD
Bride Forename(s) Jane
Bride Age at Marriage Of f
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence East Dean
Bride Father's Surname PRITCHARD
Bide Father's Forename(s) Samuel
Bride Father's Rank or Profession Labourer
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark both mark
Witness 1 Thomas Pasey
Witness 2 Sarah Pasey
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister Richard Davies
Event type M
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P208 IN 1/5
Page No 1
Parish or Chapel Name Lydbrook

Thomas PENN Haulier Cinderford (reply)

rowandean — Sun, 29 Oct 2006 08:05:04 +0000

I am trying to establish if the above Thomas Penn is my great grandfather.

In your research his son Thomas was born in 1857, in either Flaxley, Littledean. My research for Thomas Penn, born 1857 says that he was born in Lydbrook. Thomas Penn (born Lydbrook) was married to Emma Walker (born Ruspidge 1859). These are my grandfather and mother. Am I on the right track?

Perhaps you can help me.

Thank you

Margaret Baldwin (nee Penn)

Jane PRITCHARD 1836 ( 1841 Census) Walford (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:19:38 +0000

1841 Bushey House ?
Samuel Pritchard abt 1801 Herefordshire, England Walford Herefordshire
Elizabeth Pritchard abt 1806 Herefordshire, England Walford Herefordshire
Eliza Pritchard abt 1834 Herefordshire, England Walford Herefordshire
Jane Pritchard abt 1836 Herefordshire, England Walford Herefordshire
John Pritchard abt 1828 Herefordshire, England Walford Herefordshire

1851 Reddings
Saml Pritchard abt 1791 Bridstow, Herefordshire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Pritchard abt 1791 Hopemarsell, Herefordshire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Pritchard abt 1836 Waleford, Herefordshire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Eliza Pritchard abt 1834 Bridstow, Herefordshire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Elizth Pritchard abt 1846 Westbury on Servrn, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter East Dean Gloucestershire

Name: Jane Pritchard
Name: Thomas Penn
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 41

Thomas PENN 1827 ( 1841 Census) Ruardean (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:11:21 +0000

1841 Cottage Ruardean ( in the Morse / Bishopswood area)
Thos Penn abt 1801 Ruardean Gloucestershire Blacksmith
Mary Penn abt 1801 Ruardean Gloucestershire
Amos Penn abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean Gloucestershire
Ann Penn abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean Gloucestershire
Edwin Penn abt 1834 Ruardean Gloucestershire
James Penn abt 1836 Ruardean Gloucestershire
Jane Penn abt 1838 Ruardean Gloucestershire
Sarah Penn abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean Gloucestershire
Thomas Penn abt 1825 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean Gloucestershire
William Penn abt 1832 Ruardean Gloucestershire

Thomas PENN 1827 ( 1851 Census) (reply)

Ann Suttie — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:46:40 +0000

Sorry it has taken so long for a Thankyou Mike
I didnt see the thread regards Ann

Thomas PENN 1827 ( 1851 Census) (reply)

shepway — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 21:32:04 +0000

The GFHS transcription lists a Thomas PENN aged 24 and born Walford living in Lydbrook. Here is the household:
The whole of the Parish of Ruardean including part of Lydbrook, Bishops Wood, Drybrook, Woodside, & Morse Lane, in the County of Gloucester Also 1 house called White Hill taken from E. Book 3(c) 354

1976 0357 024 Lydbrook HARRISON Richard HD M 60 Farmer 18A GLS Ruardean
1976 0357 024 Lydbrook HARRISON Sarah WI M 61 - HEF Goodrich
1976 0357 024 Lydbrook HARRISON William SO U 25 Barge Owner GLS Ruardean
1976 0357 024 Lydbrook HARRISON Jane E. DA U 19 - GLS Ruardean
1976 0357 024 Lydbrook PENN Thomas SV U 24 Agricultural Servant HEF Walford

This would appear to be Jane PRITCHARD:
All that Part of the Township of East Dean which Comprises Lydbrook Hill, Moorwood, Vention Joys Green Hausley Reddings Pludds and Aston Bridge Lodge In Herberts Walk Eclesiastical District Holy Trinity

1959 0142 152 Reddings PRITCHARD Samuel HD M 60 Labourer HEF Bridstow
1959 0142 152 Reddings PRITCHARD Elizabeth WI M 60 Wife HEF Hope Mansell
1959 0142 152 Reddings PRITCHARD Eliza DA U 17 At Home HEF Bridstow
1959 0142 152 Reddings PRITCHARD Jane DA U 15 At Home HEF Walford
1959 0142 152 Reddings PRITCHARD Elizabeth GD U 5 At Home GLS Westbury on Severn

Mike

Thomas PENN 1827 ( 1851 Census) (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 00:26:57 +0000

1851
Thomas Penn abt 1827 Walford, Herefordshire, England Servant Ruardean Gloucestershire

Household of George MEEK 1773 ( at least according to Ancestry's index !)

The image reveals the Harrison household in Lydbrook

Thomas PENN Haulier Cinderford (reply)

Ann Suttie — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 06:35:05 +0000

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Well slow hands fast answers Cant THANKYOU enough I just cant believe the wonderful responce more thankyous than I can ever say Ann Suttie

Thomas PENN Haulier Cinderford (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:17:30 +0000

Thomas PENN Haulier

1861 HindersLane ?
Thomas Penn abt 1829 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham Gloucestershire
Jane Penn abt 1836 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham Gloucestershire
Eliza Penn abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Penn abt 1853 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham Gloucestershire
Thomas Penn abt 1857 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham Gloucestershire

1871 Bilston
Thomas Penn abt 1827 Walford, Herefordshire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Penn abt 1835 Walford, Herefordshire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Eliza Penn abt 1858 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Penn abt 1866 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
John Penn abt 1869 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary A Penn abt 1853 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Penn abt 1856 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
William Penn abt 1865 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

1881 Cinderford
Thomas Penn abt 1825 Walford, Hereford, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Jane Penn abt 1837 Walford, Hereford, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Jane Penn abt 1864 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
John Penn abt 1867 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Penn abt 1873 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Penn abt 1825 Walford, Hereford, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
William Penn abt 1862 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire,

1891 Cinderford
Penn, Thomas abt 1829 Walford, Herefordshire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Penn, Eliza abt 1863 Bilson, Glostershire Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Penn, Jane abt 1838 Walford, Herefordshire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Penn, Sarah abt 1872 Bilson, Glostershire Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Leighton, Thomas abt 1862 Dymock, Glostershire Son-in-law East Dean Gloucestershire

1901 Commercial St Cinderford
Arthur James abt 1875 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah James abt 1874 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Annie James abt 1900 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Florence James abt 1898 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Jane James abt 1896 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Penn abt 1827 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Relation East Dean Gloucestershire

Thomas PENN, born about 1825

Ann Suttie — Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:23:19 +0000

I am trying to find information on the Penn Family Thomas abt 1825
Jane nee Pritchard abt 1837 both brn Walford Hereford unknown when they moved to Dean forest or when married as I am unable to find their Marriage

CHILDREN

William brn abt 1862 Dean Forest married (Emma Banks)
Jane (MINNIE) 1864 married Charles Lees '
John 1867 Married possible Martha?
Sarah 1873 nothing more known

There was possibly other children
I have been told of a Mary ann married a Trigg?
she is a witness to brother Williams marriage but unsure if she was a Penn prior ?
Any information at all would be greatfully recieved