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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the Gloucestershire Marriage Index CD pre 1800</p>
<p>Just a few HARDWICKE marriages listed 1791-1799</p>
<p>Ann HAWKER married Richard JACKSONS at Hardwicke 14 April 1794</p>
<p>Nathaniel HAWKINS married Susanna COOKE by Lic at Hardwicke - 3 May 1796</p>
<p>Moses REDMAN - married Margaret BRUTON at Wotton/Edge - 29 April 1734<br />
Richard REDMAN of Leonard Stanley, married Sarah LEA (Lic) - Glos S. Aldate 8 May 1782</p>
<p>on FoD records</p>
<p>Richard REDMAN - Bachelor<br />
residence: of the parish of Leonard Manley in the County &amp; dioceses of Gloucester</p>
<p>married</p>
<p>Sarah LEA - Spinster of this parish - by licence.</p>
<p>Witnesses: John KIDMAN/John REMINGTON</p>
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<p>Gloucestershire Burial Index 1800 onwards</p>
<p>Only one Burial of a HAWKER at Hardwicke St Nicholas</p>
<p>Ann HAWKER - 23 January 1818 - age 91 (residence: Morton Valance) = c1727</p>
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<p><br />
HAWKINS burials at Hardwicke</p>
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Ann HAWKINS - 7 December 1836 - age 83 (residence: Morton Valance<br />
Edward Gilding HAWKINS - 2m - 2 January 1839 - (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Elizabeth HAWKINS - age 69 - 22 July 1844 - (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Hannah HAWKINS - age 69 - 17 October 1829 - (residence: Longney)<br />
John HAWKINS - age 37 - 21 October 1850 - (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Joseph HAWKINS - age 69 - 21 March 1840 - (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Nathaniel HAWKINS - age 79 - 21 October 1841 - (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Nathaniel HAWKINS - age 60 - 23 January 1831 (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Nathaniel HAWKINS - age 54 - 24 November 1851 (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Susannah HAWKINS - age 23 - 22 September 1823 (residence: Morton Valance<br />
Susann HAWKINS - age 79 - 14 November 1851 (residence:Morton Valance)</p>
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and COOK/COOKE burials at Hardwicke</p>
<p>Joseph COOK - 20 February 1835 - age 60 - (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Mary COOK - 8 April 1847 - age 45 - (residence: Standish)<br />
George COOKE - 23 July 1832 - age 13 (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Nathaniel COOKE - 20 April 1846 - age 70 (residence: Hardwicke)<br />
Charles COOKE - 27 August 1850 - age 11 (residence: Hardwicke)</p>
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<p>Hannah HAWKER buried 22 May 1842 at Frampton on Severn, age 84<br />
James HAWKER - 19 April 1813 - age 4 m<br />
Mary HAWKER - 26 Februry 1846 age 23<br />
Sarah HAWKER - 7 January 1821 - age 23<br />
Thomas HAWKER - 31 July 1844 - age 47<br />
Adelaide HAWKER - 24 July 1842 - age 3m</p>
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<p>Looking at the Burial Index, most REDMAN's were</p>
<p>Leonard Stanley<br />
Kings Stanley</p>
<p>most REDMAN's father's occupations of the baptism index, appear to be Clothworkers/Weavers/Plaisters/Stone Masons</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Both couples were married by licence rather than banns.  Is this what posh people did or would it be done in a hurry to save awkward questions? </p>
</blockquote><p>or<br />
it may be that they lived in different parishes - I think it was cheaper by licence compared to reading Banns in two parishes .....</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'll try and follow the leads that you have supplied, Thanks.</p>
<p>One last question:<br />
Betty Hawkins marrying William Cook(e) 25 March 1762<br />
&amp;<br />
Mary Hawkins marrying William Moore 5 Feb 1761<br />
Both couples were married by licence rather than banns.  Is this what posh people did or would it be done in a hurry to save awkward questions? <br />
Once again, thanks to all who have helped me.<br />
Liz</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Liz</p>
<p>We can never find the one we really need can we?!</p>
<p>I suspect that this is the Thomas that married Ann (but no proof yet).</p>
<p>Name: Thomas Hawker  <br />
Gender: Male  <br />
Christening Date: 24 Jan 1724  <br />
Christening Place: ELMSTONE HARDWICKE,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND  <br />
Birth Date:  <br />
Birthplace:  <br />
Death Date:  <br />
Name Note:  <br />
Race:  <br />
Father's Name: William Hawker  <br />
Father's Birthplace:  <br />
Father's Age:  <br />
Mother's Name: Mary  <br />
Mother's Birthplace:  <br />
Mother's Age:  <br />
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02812-2  <br />
System Origin: England-ODM  <br />
GS Film number: 425411  <br />
Reference ID:  </p>
<p>I have also found a possible William:</p>
<p>Name: Will Hawker  <br />
Gender: Male  <br />
Christening Date: 09 May 1703  <br />
Christening Place: ELMSTONE HARDWICKE,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND  <br />
Birth Date:  <br />
Birthplace:  <br />
Death Date:  <br />
Name Note:  <br />
Race:  <br />
Father's Name:  <br />
Father's Birthplace:  <br />
Father's Age:  <br />
Mother's Name:  <br />
Mother's Birthplace:  <br />
Mother's Age:  <br />
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02812-2  <br />
System Origin: England-ODM  <br />
GS Film number: 425411  <br />
Reference ID:  </p>
<p>Still missing those darn marriages though!</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A follow up with info regarding Thomas Hawker.<br />
Thomas Hawker was left money by his mother and through a widow, Mary Moore of Hardwicke, his aunt.<br />
The will of Mary Moore was proved in 1797 (I now have copy) Money was left to various inc. her sister Ann Hawker (mother of Thomas) and sister Betty Cook(e). I've managed to work out that the maiden name of the 3 women was Hawkins.<br />
Betty Hawkins married William Cook - Hardwicke - 1762<br />
Mary Hawkins married William Moore - Hardwicke 1761<br />
All four are buried in Hardwicke cemetery.<br />
I still can't find a marriage of Ann Hawkins and Thomas Hawker (parents of Thomas Hawker born 1756)<br />
Any leads would be gratefully accepted<br />
I hope that the above will be of interested for anyone researching the Hawker, Cook or Moore families.<br />
Thank you so much for providing me with the tips that got me this far</p>
<p>Liz</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to one and all<br />
I shall follow up all leads and see what I find</p>
<p>Liz</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>??</p>
<p>Hardwicke is less than five miles from Frampton.</p>
<p>Name: Thomas Hawker  <br />
Gender: Male  <br />
Christening Date: 24 Mar 1756  <br />
Christening Place: HARDWICKE,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND  <br />
Birth Date:  <br />
Birthplace:  <br />
Death Date:  <br />
Name Note:  <br />
Race:  <br />
Father's Name: Thos Hawker  <br />
Father's Birthplace:  <br />
Father's Age:  <br />
Mother's Name: Ann  <br />
Mother's Birthplace:  <br />
Mother's Age:  <br />
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02895-2  <br />
System Origin: England-ODM  <br />
GS Film number: 425428  <br />
Reference ID:</p>
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<title>Thomas HAWKER &amp; Hannah REDMAN, Frampton on Severn (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thomas Hawker born approx 1753<br />
Hannah Redman born approx 1758 - according to 1841 census - born in Glos. Died 1842 Frampton on Severn</p>
<p>They were married in Frampton on Severn on 24 Nov 1786</p>
<p>Does anyone know where they were born or have any other information about them?</p>
<p>They had many children - one of whom - Henry - was my 4th great grandfather.</p>
<p>Many thanks</p>
<p>Liz</p>
</blockquote><p>The marriage date puts them &quot;relatively&quot; old - in their 30's - is it possible that Hannah was married before ?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parishmouse</p>
<p>have another marriage of a HAWKER (not REDMAN)</p>
<p>Thomas BEARD to Mary Hopkins HAWKER - 16 August 1789 at Frampton on Severn</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're welcome, hope it helps. <br />
Re Hannah you say her age correlates to the 1841 Census; I expect you know it also agrees with this PR.</p>
<p>Record_ID: 313312 <br />
Entry_Number: 476 <br />
Year: 1842 <br />
Month: May <br />
Day: 22 <br />
Surname: HAWKER <br />
Forenames: Hannah <br />
Residence: Frampton <br />
Age_at_death: 84 y[ea]rs <br />
Officiating_Minister: John Colborne Curate <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P149 IN 1/11 <br />
Page_No: 60 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Frampton on Severn <br />
Soundex: H260 </p>
<p>Searching LDS doesnt give any likely Baptisms in our area even between 1740 &amp; 1769.  I was surprised to see that altho that site's usually very good at offeringup name spelling variants, in my case altho it did so for the surname it didn't also offer Annas etc when I first searched Hannah, so had to repeat the search - odd that. </p>
<p>PS I'm frustrated as I'm convinced I've seen a usefull independent website quoted on this forum during the last 6 months or so which gave early PR transcripts for the Frampton/Fretherne area, but I cannot find it by searching..... I think I need rebooting !</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for the information</p>
<p>Shall try the will to see if there is any more info there</p>
<p>Liz</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Liz,<br />
am I right in thinking your birth year for Thomas is based on this PR ?</p>
<p>Record_ID: 314528 <br />
Entry_Number:  <br />
Year: 1812 <br />
Month: Oct <br />
Day: 11 <br />
Surname: HAWKER <br />
Forenames: Thomas <br />
Residence: Frampton <br />
Age_at_death: 58 <br />
Officiating_Minister:  <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P149 IN 1/3 <br />
Page_No:  <br />
Parish_Chapel: Frampton on Severn <br />
Soundex: H260 </p>
<p>If so then could this Will be his, may well be worth your getting a copy - from the Glos &quot;Non-conformists site&quot; as I call it  <br />
<a href="http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Results.aspx">http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Results.aspx</a></p>
<p>&quot;Will No 83, Year 1818, May 23rd, Thomas Hawker of Frampton on Severn.&quot;</p>
<p>I've no doubt you've also seen this Baptism among the &quot;possibles&quot; shown on the LDS site, I think the only one for 1753 within the &quot;area&quot;, although this birthyear is subject to error of course. </p>
<p>Name: Hawkes  <br />
Gender: Male  <br />
Christening Date: 1753  <br />
Christening Place: TEMPLE, BRISTOL, GLOUCS., ENGLAND  <br />
Birth Date:  <br />
Birthplace:  <br />
Death Date:  <br />
Name Note:  <br />
Race:  <br />
Father's Name: Thomas Hawkes  <br />
Father's Birthplace:  <br />
Father's Age:  <br />
Mother's Name: Mary  <br />
Mother's Birthplace:  <br />
Mother's Age:  <br />
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C17295-1  <br />
System Origin: England-VR  <br />
GS Film number: 1596178  <br />
Reference ID: - 2:2XGQ79J  </p>
<p>see other &quot;possibles&quot; at <br />
<a href="https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&amp;query=%2Bgivenname%3Athomas~%20%2Bsurname%3Ahawker~&amp;birth_year1=1700~1750&amp;birth_place1=8%2CEngland&amp;offset=60">https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&amp;query=%2Bgivenname%3Ath...</a></p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas Hawker born approx 1753<br />
Hannah Redman born approx 1758 - according to 1841 census - born in Glos. Died 1842 Frampton on Severn</p>
<p>They were married in Frampton on Severn on 24 Nov 1786</p>
<p>Does anyone know where they were born or have any other information about them?</p>
<p>They had many children - one of whom - Henry - was my 4th great grandfather.</p>
<p>Many thanks</p>
<p>Liz</p>
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