Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Gurneys of Dymock, Kemply and Upton Bishop circa 1800

Gurneys of Dymock, Kemply and Upton Bishop circa 1800 (reply)

Dwfeathers — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:00:57 +0000

What a wonderful website you have created. Well done.
I first came across this site a few months ago and have now come back to it. I started looking at my grandmother Florence Gurney(1885-1943)in Islington, London and traced her back to my 2xggrandfather Joseph Gurney baptised 1828 in Dymock. Your site has given me so much information that I'm now looking at my 4xggrandfather James and his wife at their marriage in 1789! I've also noticed Gurneys in the workhouse!
Thanks again for all the information. I now have to put the details into order.
David Featherstone

Ivor GURNEY 1890 1937 Gloucester Poet (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:48:24 +0000

Ivor Gurney, the son of a tailor, was born in Gloucester on 28th August, 1890. Gurney was educated at King's School, Gloucester as a chorister and he won an open scholarship to the Royal College of Music in 1911.

Gurney showed considerable talent as a composer and poet but in May 1913 he was diagnosed as suffering from dyspepsia and was sent home to Gloucester to recuperate. However, it is now accepted that he had a nervous breakdown and was the first sign of bipolar illness.

On the outbreak of the First World War, Gurney volunteered for the Gloucester regiment. He was initially turned down because of his defective eyesight, but as the British Army was short of men, was allowed to join in 1915.

After training at Salisbury he was sent to Riez Bailleul on the Western Front in May 1916. Three months later he was transferred to Albert during the Somme offensive.

On 7th April 1917, Gurney was shot in the army and sent to the army hospital at Rouen. The following month he rejoined his regiment at Arras.

In July 1917 Gurney was transferred to the 184 Machine Gun Company and was moved to Buysscheure and joined the forces preparing for the offensive at Passchendaele.

Gurney was gassed at St. Julien on 10th September 1917. He was sent to Edinburgh War Hospital and while recovering a collection of his war poems, Severn and Somme, appeared in November 1917.

After the war Gurney spent time in the Newcastle General Hospital, Lord Derby's War Hospital in Warrington and the Middlesex War Hospital in St. Albans. Gurney was finally discharged from hospital and the army on 4th October 1918.

Gurney's second book of poems, War's Embers was published in May 1919. However he was unable to make a living from his writing and over the next three years worked as a farm labourer, as a pianist in a cinema and as a clerk in the Gloucester Tax Office.

Gurney suffered from a severe manic depressive illness and after several failed attempts at suicide was sent to a mental asylum in Gloucester. On 28th September 1922, Gurney was certified insane and was transferred to the City of London Mental Hospital at Dartford. He continued to write poetry and his work was published in the London Mercury.

Ivor Gurney died of bilateral pulmonary tuberculosis at the City of London Mental Hospital on 26th December, 1937. Five days later he was buried at Twigworth, Gloucestershire.

GURNEY of Dymock (reply)

davefskinner — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 05:34:59 +0000

Hi
I should have looked at this forum earlier as I appear to have found several potential connections.
I have a John Gurney who married Mary Hannah Waddon on 12 October 1853. They had 11 children between 1857 and 1876 all born in the Hope Mansell/Newent area.
Please contact me for more details.
David Skinner

George GURNEY 1843 Kemply (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:39:14 +0000

1841
John Gorny abt 1801 Kempley Gloucestershire
Mary Gorny abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Kempley Gloucestershire
Ann Gorny abt 1835 Kempley Gloucestershire
Henry Gorny abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Kempley Gloucestershire
Jane Gorny abt 1833 Kempley Gloucestershire
Thomas Gorny abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Kempley Gloucestershire
William Gorny abt 1831 Kempley Gloucestershire

1851
John Gurney abt 1797 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Head Kempley Gloucestershire
Mary Gurney abt 1799 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Wife Kempley Gloucestershire
George Gurney abt 1843 Kempley, Gloucestershire, England Son Kempley Gloucestershire
Henry Gurney abt 1837 Kempley, Gloucestershire, England Son Kempley Gloucestershire
Jane Elizabeth Gurney abt 1834 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Daughter Kempley Gloucestershire
William Gurney abt 1832 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Son Kempley Gloucestershire

1861
Joseph Gurney abt 1829 Kempley, Gloucestershire, England Head St Luke Middlesex
Jane Gurney J abt 1826 Motcombe, Herefordshire, England Wife St Luke Middlesex
John Gurney abt 1849 Upton, Herefordshire, England Son St Luke Middlesex
Joseph Gurney abt 1856 Hoxton, Middlesex, England Son St Luke Middlesex
Mary Ann E Gurney abt 1858 St Luke, Middlesex, England Daughter St Luke Middlesex
Thomas Gurney abt 1852 Upton, Herefordshire, England Son St Luke Middlesex
William Henry Gurney abt 1860 St Luke, Middlesex, England Son St Luke Middlesex
George Gurney abt 1843 Kempley, Gloucestershire, England Brother St Luke Middlesex

1871
George Gurney abt 1843 Kempley, Gloucestershire, England Head Mile End Old Town London
Louisa Gurney G abt 1840 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Wife Mile End Old Town London
Charlott M Gurney abt 1865 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Mile End Old Town London
George Gurney abt 1867 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Mile End Old Town London
Joseph Gurney abt 1869 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Mile End Old Town London

1881
George Gurney abt 1843 Kempley, Gloucestershire, England Head Camberwell London
Louisa Gurney abt 1840 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Wife Camberwell London
Charles H. S. Gurney abt 1874 Stepney, Middlesex, England Son Camberwell London
George Gurney abt 1867 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Camberwell London
Joseph Gurney abt 1869 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Camberwell London
Sarah A. Gurney abt 1875 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Daughter Camberwell London

1891
George Gurney abt 1843 Hungerford Head Islington London
Louisa Gurney abt 1840 Kempley, Gloucestershire, England Wife Islington London
Charles Gurney abt 1874 Stepney Son Islington London
George Gurney abt 1867 Hoxton Son Islington London
Lilian B Gurney abt 1885 Islington Daughter Islington London
Sarah Gurney abt 1875 Whitechapel Daughter Islington London
1901
George Gurney abt 1843 Kempley, Gloucestershire, England Head Camberwell London
Louisa Gurney abt 1840 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Wife Camberwell London
Lilian B Gurney abt 1885 Islington, London, England Daughter Camberwell London
Sarah A E Gurney abt 1875 Whitechapel, London, England Daughter Camberwell London
Charlotte M Cook abt 1865 Hoxton, London, England Daughter Camberwell London
Anne E Cook abt 1891 Islington, London, England Granddaughter Camberwell London
Mary Louise Cook abt 1888 Islington, London, England Granddaughter Camberwell London

Joseph GURNEY 1828 Dymock (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:26:37 +0000

Parents ??
Year 1824
Month Jul
Day 6
Grooms Surname GURNEY
Grooms Forenames John
Grooms Age
Groom Condition Bachelor
Grooms Occupation
Grooms Residence of this parish
Grooms Fathers Surname
Grooms Fathers Forenames
Grooms Fathers Occupation
Brides Surname HOOPER
Brides Forenames Mary
Brides Age
Brides Condition Spinster
Brides Occupation
Brides Residence of this parish
Brides Fathers Surname
Brides Fathers Forenames
Brides Fathers Occupation
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of Banns
Signature or Mark He signs she marks
Witness 1 John Lloyd
Witness 2 Richard Bosley
Other Witnesses
Officiating Minister H B Lennard
Event Marriage
Memoranda with consent of parents
Notes
Register Reference AG56/9
Page Number 20
Parish Chapel Much Marcle

Year: 1828
Month: Dec
Day: 28
Parents_Surname: GURNEY
Child_Forenames: Joseph
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Great Netherton
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P125 IN 1/14
Page_Number: 97
Parish_Chapel: Dymock

Name: Jane Evans
Name: Joseph Gurney
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 26
Page: 329

1851
Joseph Gurney abt 1829 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Head Upton Bishop Herefordshire
Jane Gurney abt 1826 Yatton, Herefordshire, England Wife Upton Bishop Herefordshire
John Gurney e abt 1849 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Son Upton Bishop Herefordshire

1871
Joseph Gurney Jane abt 1829 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Head St Leonard Shoreditch London
Jane Gurney abt 1826 Much Hardle, Hertfordshire, England Wife St Leonard Shoreditch London
Alfred Chathther Gurney abt 1867 Shoreditch Son St Leonard Shoreditch London
George Gurney abt 1864 Shoreditch Son St Leonard Shoreditch London
Jane Hannah Gurney abt 1862 Midlands, St Luke Daughter St Leonard Shoreditch London
John Gurney abt 1849 Upton Bishop, Hertfordshire, England Son St Leonard Shoreditch London
Joseph Gurney abt 1856 Shoreditch Son St Leonard Shoreditch London
Lillian Gurney abt 1860 Midlands, St Luke Son St Leonard Shoreditch London
Mary Ann Gurney abt 1858 Midlands, St Luke Daughter St Leonard Shoreditch London
Thomas Gurney abt 1852 Upton Bishop, Hertfordshire, England Son St Leonard Shoreditch London

1881
Joseph Gurney abt 1829 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Head Shoreditch London
Jane Gurney abt 1826 Yatten, Hereford, England Wife Shoreditch London
A.A. Gurney abt 1867 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch London
G.C. Gurney abt 1864 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch London
J.H. Gurney abt 1862 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Daughter Shoreditch London
W.H. Gurney abt 1860 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch London

1891
Joseph Gurney abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Head Islington London
Jane Gurney abt 1826 Hereford Wife Islington London

GURNEY of Dymock (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:39:28 +0000

enjoy your puzzle work , John

John GURNEY 1827 Dymock (reply)

johnG — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:05:20 +0000

Many thanks slowhands, you have been a magnificent help in filling in a load of blanks for me, and I am amazed at how you manage to do it, as I see you are a great help to many people on this forum.

My sincere thanks. I am now endeavouring to piece it all together.

Best wishes

John Gurney

John GURNEY 1826 Dymock (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:40:25 +0000

1841
William Western abt 1792 Devon, England Great Torrington Devon Inn Keeper
Elizabeth Western abt 1794 Devon, England Great Torrington Devon
Charlotte Western abt 1832 Devon, England Great Torrington Devon
Fanny Western abt 1828 Devon, England Great Torrington Devon
Jonathan Western abt 1827 Devon, England Great Torrington Devon
Margaret Western abt 1838 Devon, England Great Torrington Devon
William Western abt 1829 Devon, England Great Torrington Devon
Sarah Ayre abt 1824 Devon, England Great Torrington Devon

Name: John Gurney
Name: Fanny Western
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Torrington
County: Devon
Volume: 10
Page: 509

1851
John Gurney abt 1827 Dymorck, Gloucestershire, England Head Shoreditch Middlesex
Fanny Gurney abt 1828 Great Torrington, Devon, England Wife Shoreditch Middlesex

1861
John Gurney abt 1826 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Head Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex
Fanny Gurney abt 1827 St Garsington, Devon, England Wife Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex
Anna M Gurney abt 1854 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex
Anna M Gurney abt 1858 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex
John W Gurney abt 1860 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex
Samuel Gurney abt 1852 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex

Name: Harry Augustus Gurney
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Shoreditch
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 93

1871
John Gurney abt 1827 Shoreditch, Gloucestershire, England Head St Leonard Shoreditch London
Fanny M Gurney abt 1828 Shoreditch, Devon, England Wife St Leonard Shoreditch London
Emma M Gurney abt 1868 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter St Leonard Shoreditch London
Harry A Gurney abt 1862 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son St Leonard Shoreditch London
John W Gurney abt 1858 Islington, Middlesex, England Son St Leonard Shoreditch London
Maud Gurney abt 1860 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter St Leonard Shoreditch London

1881
John Gurney abt 1827 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Head Islington London
Fanny Gurney abt 1828 Frampton, Devon, England Wife Islington London
Alice Gurney abt 1862 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington London
Emily Gurney abt 1858 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington London
Harry Gurney abt 1868 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Islington London

Ivor GURNEY 1890 1937 Gloucester Poet (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:09:30 +0000

Ivor Gurney (August 28, 1890 - December 26, 1937)

1841
Thomas Gurney abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Maisemore Gloucestershire
Morry Gurney abt 1776 Gloucestershire, England Maisemore Gloucestershire
Thomas Gurney abt 1822 Gloucestershire, England Maisemore Gloucestershire

1851
Thomas Gurney abt 1779 Ashleworth, Herefordshire, England Head Maisemore Gloucestershire
Thomas Gurney abt 1822 Wotton, Herefordshire, England Grandson Maisemore Gloucestershire
Mary Gurney abt 1821 Berrow, Herefordshire, England Wife Maisemore Gloucestershire
Hanah Gurney abt 1845 Maisemore, Herefordshire, England Daughter Maisemore Gloucestershire
William Gurney abt 1850 Maisemore, Herefordshire, England Son Maisemore Gloucestershire

1861
Thomas Gurney abt 1822 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Head Maisemore Gloucestershire
Mary Gurney abt 1847 Boddington, Gloucestershire, England Wife Maisemore Gloucestershire
Guy Gurney abt 1858 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Son Maisemore Gloucestershire
John Gurney abt 1853 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Son Maisemore Gloucestershire
Joseph Gurney abt 1855 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Son Maisemore Gloucestershire
Thomas Gurney abt 1848 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Son Maisemore Gloucestershire
Walter Gurney abt 1860 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Son Maisemore Gloucestershire
William Gurney abt 1850 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Son Maisemore Gloucestershire

1871
Thomas Gurney abt 1822 Wooton, Gloucestershire, England Head Maisemore Gloucestershire
Mary Gurney abt 1821 Bodington, Gloucestershire, England Wife Maisemore Gloucestershire
David Gurney abt 1863 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Son Maisemore Gloucestershire
Guy Gurney abt 1858 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Son Maisemore Gloucestershire
Walter Gurney abt 1860 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Son Maisemore Gloucestershire

1881
John Gurney abt 1853 Maismore, Gloucestershire, England Head Gloucester Barton St Mary Gloucestershire
Eliza Gurney abt 1854 Longford, Ireland Wife Gloucester Barton St Mary Gloucestershire
Clara Gurney abt 1876 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Gloucester Barton St Mary Gloucestershire
Thomas W. Gurney J abt 1877 Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester Barton St Mary Gloucestershire
Walter Gurney abt 1880 Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester Barton St Mary Gloucestershire
David Gurney abt 1862 Maismore, Gloucestershire, England Brother Gloucester Barton St Mary Gloucestershire

Name: Ivor Bertie Gurney
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Gloucester (1837-1937)
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 276

1891
Darrd Gurney abt 1863 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Head St Michael Gloucestershire
Florence Gurney abt 1861 Bexley, Gloucestershire, England Wife St Michael Gloucestershire
Ivor B Gurney abt 1890 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Son St Michael Gloucestershire
Winifred Gurney abt 1887 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Michael Gloucestershire

1901
David Ginney = abt 1863 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Head Gloucester Gloucestershire
Florence Ginney abt 1861 Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Wife Gloucester Gloucestershire
Dorothy Evelyn Ginney abt 1900 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Gloucester Gloucestershire
Ivor Bertie Ginney abt 1891 Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester Gloucestershire
Ronald Edward Ginney abt 1893 Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester Gloucestershire
Winifred Marion Ginney abt 1887 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Gloucester Gloucestershire

Name: Ivor Bertie Gurney
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Gloucester (1837-1937)
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 276

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GURNEY of Dymock (reply)

johnG — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:49:42 +0000

Hi slowhands,

I think you are absolutely right, and provides a name I did not previously know.

I have on record a John Gurney, who married Mary (???), and they had two sons baptised at St. Mary's Church, Dymock. John on 12 November 1826, and Joseph on 28 December 1828. I have no other ionformation on them than that, e.g. date of birth, marriage, death.

So the location, year and Christian name of Msry fits.

As yet I have no more information on John Gurney, husband of Msry, other than in 1826 he was a 'labourer' (Presumably farm labourer) living at Great Netherton, which appears to be an area covered by St. Mary's Church Dymock.

The Dymock connection appears to confirm a growing suspicion the Gurney's I am interested in moved to London in the wake of the Industrial Revolution, and for many years whilst living in Zimbabwe I was confronted with the problem of which of about 10 000 parishes should I be looking at to get back beyond the 1837 Somerset House records.

Now I am living in England and have access to internet things are really moving along, and I am delighted to have found a connection with the glorious county of Gloucestershire, the home of the old 28th of Foot Regiment.

I will try to follow up the Hooper lead, and a million thanks for your help.

Regards

Another John Gurney.

GURNEY of Dymock (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:20:41 +0000

I wonder if this is the "parent" marriage ?

Great Netherton being between Dymock and Much Marcle

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JOHN GURNEY
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Marriages:
Spouse: MARY HOOPER
Marriage: 06 JUL 1824 Much Marcle, Hereford, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M137231 1556 - 1837 1041613 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Year 1824
Month Jul
Day 6

Groom Surname GURNEY
Groom Forename(s) John
Groom Age at Marriage
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession
Groom Residence of this parish
Groom Father's Surname
Groom Father's Forename(s)
Groom Father's Rank or Profession

Bride Surname HOOPER
Bride Forename(s) Mary
Bride Age at Marriage
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence of this parish
Bride Father's Surname
Bride Father's Forename(s)
Bride Father's Rank or Profession

Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark He signs she marks
Witness 1 John Lloyd
Witness 2 Richard Bosley
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister H B Lennard
Event type Marriage
Memoranda with consent of parents
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference AG56/9
Page No 20
Parish/Chapel Much Marcle

and this looks like a good fit

MARY HOOPER
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Event(s):
Birth: 24 FEB 1800
Christening: 02 MAR 1800 Dymock, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Mother: SARAH HOOPER
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
P016631 1538 - 1875 0091519-521,0824375 Film 0820930 Film
P016631 1538 - 1875 0091519-521,0824375 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Gurney's of Dymock

johnG — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:13:52 +0000

Brand new to this forum. First post.

In tracing back my family I have found a John Gurney, baptised at Dymock, Gloucestershire in 1826, and his brother Joseph, baptised at Dymock in 1828.
The sons of John and Mary Gurney of Great Netherton.

I have a lot of information on the family from the point of one of John Gurney's sons: Harry Augustus Gurney born 1868, by which time the family had moved to the Shoreditch area of London.

I have no information back beyond the 1826 baptism in Dymock.

If anything of the above sounds familiar, then I would be glad to hear from you.

Thanks