Forest of Dean FHT Forum - John Marfell PEARCE Ross on Wye

John Marfell PEARCE Ross on Wye (reply)

heatherann — Sat, 06 Jul 2019 13:09:10 +0000

Hello,
Clive Marfell Harris is my Uncle and I have been trying to trace him. I really need information about my mother Pippa Harris/Woods (Clive's sister) I would be most grateful for any information that will help me find him.
Edgar Harris’s father was William Edward Harris 1866-1938, his mother was Annie Allaway 1883-1938, Williams father was Edward Harris, his wife was Rhoda Baldwin.
In anticipation of any help
Heather Ann

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John Marfell PEARCE Ross on Wye (reply)

jimashton — Thu, 04 Apr 2019 15:32:55 +0000

Hi Helen

Your email unfortunately landed in junk and just retrieved.
Unfortunately am not in good health at moment but will reply when in better health, but can you give d.o.b for Alice Cowmeadow and is she daughter of James Howard Cowmeadow & Leah Sterry, if so and born 1900 she is great granddaughter of Cornelius Cowmeadow 1799 and Jane Baldwin 1800, none of these are related to me but Cornelius 1799 & Jane had a son Cornelius 1829 who married my GGG Aunt Jane Hannah Marfell 1834 they had 10 children

Jim Ashton

John Marfell PEARCE Ross on Wye (reply)

Helen99 — Wed, 06 Mar 2019 23:02:39 +0000

Hi Jim and Celia
It’s been a while since this post was active, but I thought it was worth getting in touch as I may be able to add a missing part to the jigsaw puzzle.
I was intrigued to come across your post whilst researching the family history on my mother’s side. My Great, Great, Grandparents were Simeon Harris and Selina (nee Williams). My Great, Grandfather was Simeon Herbert (Bert) Harris who married Alice Cowmeadow. They had 4 children (Helen *Ruth, 1909, Norman Bruce, 1911, Simeon R. *Mervyn, 1912, and Stuart Herbert, 1914). Their father inherited and grew up in Simeon and Selina’s house, in Drybrook. Three of the children never married and lived there their whole lives. I used to visit my Great Uncles there, as a child (Auntie Ruth passed away quite young). I have wonderful memories of my visits there. I believe the house still stands, but I’m unsure who owns it now. Only my Grandfather, Norman Bruce Harris, moved away from the family home and ended up in Birmingham, where he met and married my Grandmother. They had two children: my Uncle and my Mother. Sadly, only my Uncle is still alive from that side of the family as the others, including my Mother, passed away some time ago.
I am so grateful for all the incredible research you have done. Thank you for helping to fit my own family tree together!

John Marfell PEARCE Ross on Wye (reply)

jimashton — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:37:57 +0000

Hi Celia - (Yes 5th cousin once removed)

The children I have for Simeon Harris and Selina Nee Williams are: Jane 1863, Emily 1866, Levi 1869, Simeon 1870 died before 1875, Annie 1873, Simeon 1875, Minnie Maria Marfell Harris 1876, Lilian 1879, May 1883. The census data below :

1871 Census East Dean 2597/75
Simeon Harris 31 Coal Miner East Dean
Selina 30 East Dean
Jane 8 East Dean
Emily 6 East Dean
Levi 2 East Dean
Simeon 9 mths East Dean

1881 Census
Dwelling: Drybrook
Census Place: (Westbury On Severn) East Dean, Gloucester, England
Source: FHL Film 1341608 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2521 Folio 118 Page 18
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Simeon HARRIS M 41 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Coal Miner
Selina HARRIS M 40 F East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Wife
Levi HARRIS 12 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Annie HARRIS 8 F East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
Simeon HARRIS 6 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Minnie Maria Marfel HARRIS 5 F Nailsea, Somerset, England
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
Lilian Silvia HARRIS 2 F East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Dau

1891Census East Dean
Simeon Harris 50 Coal Miner Drybrook
Selina 50 Drybrook
Levi 22 Baker Drybrook
Lilian 12 Drybrook
May 5 Drybrook
Sylvia mother 78 Living on own means Drybrook

1901 Census East Dean
Selina Harris 1841 Drybrook,
Simeon Harris 1875 Drybrook, Son
Lilian Harris 1879 Drybrook, Daughter
Mary Harris 1883 Drybrook, Daughter

I have met a person with the name Clive Marfell Harris (3rd cousin once removed) he had a brother Philip Marfell Harris and their parents were Edgar Harris 1905 Cinderford & Beatrice Ada Marfell 1906 Ruardean. I know nothing of the parents of Edgar Harris 1905, but it would be interesting if there is a connection.

I have sent you an email via the web site, perhaps you could get in touch.

Jim

John Marfell PEARCE Ross on Wye (reply)

Celia61 — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 06:47:03 +0000

Hi Jim
You have confirmed the George Marfell and "Mary" for me - many thanks.
I wonder if your children of Simeon and Selina the same as mine?
The nine children of Simeon and Selina Harris which I have always known about, and have photos of seven, plus several of their children(all now deceaed) are;

Emily (Spinster)
Anne/Annie
Simeon Herbert(Uncle Bert),
May
Lilian(known as Sylvia),
Minnie MM,
Jane
Levi
and one called Benjamin whom my brother and I know nothing about.

After having just gone throught the FoD Bible Christian baptism reg transcripts on this site, and found nine baptisms,(also three deaths from burials and GRO deaths) it seems to make a total of 14 children so far. I recall my father saying that one of his parents was one of 22 children not all of whom survived, and I always assumed it was his father,but now I'm not so sure.......

I can give details of offspring of eight of the above if this is of help to you. Grandma is the only one in the family that I know with the Marfell name - it doesn't seem to have gone further down the family.

I'm currently trying to scan and archive all the old family photos, so may eventally be able to have some on the site.

Cheers, Celia (your 5th cousin, once removed??)

John Marfell PEARCE Ross on Wye (reply)

jimashton — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:59:01 +0000

Hi Celia

I do indeed know of Minnie Maria Marfell Harris born 1876 Nailsea Somerset – my 3rd cousin 3 times removed, so we are related. Her grandmother Sarah Marfell born 16 March 1807, daughter of George Marfell 1765 and his first wife Mary. George was the son of one of my 5 times great grandparents John Marfell 1731 & Lucy Meek 1743. More of them later.

Within this family are a number of “Marfell” second names and more marriages into the Marfell family; as you say, Sarah Marfell 1807 married Thomas Williams born 22 Jun 1806 and their 3rd son Thomas Williams 28 Jun 1835 married Jane Thomas, they had 6 children incl. Thomas Williams born 1861 who married Eva Marfell in 1885, they had 3 children before she died and he remarried to Eva Marfell’s sister Winifred and they had Kenneth Marfell Williams.

I am aware that your line stems from Thomas Williams & Sarah Marfell’s daughter Selina born 14 Sep 1840 who married Simeon Harris. It is obvious that you can help me here as whilst I am aware of 9 children for Simeon Harris and Selina Williams including Minnie Maria Marfell Harris, I have no details of any of the descendants of the 9.

The “Good Christian Woman” Maria Marfell, I think must be Maria Marfell born 3 Jan 1844 who married John Cowmeadow 1837. John Cowmeadow died 29 Sep 1877 and Maria nee Marfell emigrated to Niles, Ohio, USA in 1897 with Son Alexander John & daughter Annie Jane to join sons George Harold & John Marfell who emigrated in 1895 to work in a Tin Works. Maria Marfell was the great granddaughter of John Marfell & Lucy Meek mentioned in the first paragraph.

Jim Ashton

John Marfell PEARCE Ross on Wye (reply)

Celia61 — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:51:56 +0000

Hi Jim
Not sure whether this will be of interest to your MARFELL interest, but here goes for you to decide.

My paternal grandmother was Minnie Maria Marfell HARRIS, grand-daughter of Sarah MARFELL (bapt 1807 Ruardean) and Thomas WILLIAMS, GGD of a George MARFELL.

She was given the middle names after Maria Marfell, "a good Christian woman" to quote my late grandma whose family were all from down the Forest.

Celia

Thomas Marfell PEARCE 1805 Ross on Wye (reply)

jimashton — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:39:27 +0000

Thanks Slowhands

I had my 1st cousin 5 times removed Charlotte Marfell's marriage to James Preece who was a Ross Baker born 1778, but hadn't made the connection to this posting. Not sure how I do now !!

I didn't however have Thomas Marfell Preece - Thanks.

Just to tidy things up, Charlotte's mother Elizabeth nee Barratt, daughter of Cornelius Barratt & Mary Carruthers actually died 8th February 1781, buried 11th February 1781 Mitcheldean.

Jim

John Marfell PEARCE emigrates to the States (Indiana) (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:04:14 +0000

Glad to help

interested to see what Jim comes up with too ...

John Marfell PEARCE emigrates to the States ( Indiana) (reply)

golfbluejake — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:22:34 +0000

Now that is what I call assistance. No wonder I couldn't find them - a million thank yous for the info. I have purchased a pay as you go membership for Ancestry.com and have downloaded the documents converned.

Thanks again,

Dave Stamp - Cardiff

John Marfell PEARCE emigrates to the States ( Indiana) (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 05:47:05 +0000

Name: Annie Maud Pearce
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 6a
Page: 485

In 1870 US census in Vigo County, Indiana
John Pearce city, Vigo, info abt 1825
Henrietta Pearce city, Vigo, info abt 1831
William Pearce city, Vigo, info abt 1854
Clara Pearce city, Vigo, info abt 1856
Ada Pearce city, Vigo, info abt 1858
Ellen Pearce city, Vigo, info abt 1860
Anna Pearce city, Vigo, info abt 1864
John Pearce city, Vigo, info abt 1868

1880
John A. PIARCE Self M Male W 55 ENG. Salesman ENG. ENG.
Henrietta PIARCE Wife M Female W 49 ENG. Keeping House ENG. ENG.
Annie M. PIARCE Dau S Female W 17 ENG. At Home ENG. ENG.
John L. PIARCE Son S Male W 12 IN At School ENG. ENG.
Sidney M. PIARCE Son S Male W 9 IN ENG. ENG.
Evalyn PIARCE Dau S Female W 6 IN ENG. ENG.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source Information:
Census Place 6th Ward, Terre Haute, Vigo, Indiana
Family History Library Film 1254319
NA Film Number T9-0319

In 1900
Name: Henrietta Pearce
Home in 1900: Harrison, Vigo, Indiana
Age: 69
Birth Date: Oct 1830
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Immigration Year: 1867
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother: number of living children: 8
Mother: How many children: 10
Spouse's Name: John M
Marriage Year: 1851
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 49
Residence : Terre Haute City, Vigo, Indiana

Household Members: Name Age
John M Pearce 75
Henrietta Pearce 69
Sidney M Pearce 29
Rosanah Pearce 27

Charlotte MARFELL 1778 Mitcheldean (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 04:39:57 +0000

from Marfell.me

=Charlotte MARFELL (I3206)

Christening 4 January 1778 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, Englan
Marriage 5 November 1801 James PREECE - ?[View Family ?(F1270)??] Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England

father
William MARFELL ?(I2850)?
Birth 1733 2624 -- Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England

mother
Marriage 21 December 1756 (Age 23) Elizabeth BARRAT - [View Family] Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England
Burial 8 February 1778 (Age 45)

Thomas Marfell PEARCE 1805 Ross on Wye (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 04:01:14 +0000

Its come down a few generations - I suspect

Year: 1801
Month: Nov
Day: 5
Grooms_Surname: PREECE
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation: Baker
Grooms_Residence: Town of Ross in the County of Hereford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: MARFELL
Brides_Forenames: Charlotte
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Robt Evans
Witness_2: Thos Park
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Harris Rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P220 IN 1/6
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

Year: 1805
Month: Jan
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: PREECE
Child_Forenames: Thomas Marfell
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Charlotte
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation: Baker
Officiating_Minister: Thomas Underwood Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: AG39/3
Page_Number: 7
Parish_Chapel: Ross on Wye

George Marfell PEARCE 1827 Ross on Wye (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 03:52:41 +0000

Year: 1827
Month: Feb
Day: 11
Parents_Surname: PEARCE
Child_Forenames: George Marfell
Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: The George Inn
Occupation: Publican
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s Underwood Junior Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: AG39/4
Page_Number: 151
Parish_Chapel: Ross on Wye

John Marfell PEARCE Ross on Wye (reply)

golfbluejake — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 03:31:26 +0000

Jim,

The name as above is as it appears on his marriage certificate to Henrietta Morgan in 1851.

His brother George, born in Ross in 1827, also has this middle name. Details on this are in the parish records on this site.

That's all I can tell you.

Regards,

Dave Stamp

John Marfell Pearce m Henrietta Morgan 1851 (reply)

ChrisW — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 03:03:45 +0000

From FreeBMD:

Marriages Jun 1851

Morgan Henrietta Pontypool 26 233
Pearce John Marfell Pontypool 26 233

John (Marfell) PEARCE 1825 Mitcheldean (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:43:02 +0000

Year: 1800
Month: Oct
Day: 4
Grooms_Surname: PEARCE
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Mitchel Deane
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: EATON
Brides_Forenames: Letitia
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Widow
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Dymock
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Ann Hill
Witness_2: John Hankins
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Lodge
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P125 IN 1/10
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Dymock

Year: 1802
Month: May
Day: 27
Parents_Surname: PEARCE
Child_Forenames: Joseph
Fathers_Forenames: W[illia]m
Mothers_Forenames: Letitia
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P220 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 23
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

Year: 1825
Month: Jun
Day: 5
Parents_Surname: PEARCE
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Mitchel:Dean
Occupation: Shopkeeper
Officiating_Minister: Joseph Daniel Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 220 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 38
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

1841 Broad St
Joseph Pearce abt 1801 Ross, Herefordshire
Elizabeth Pearce abt 1799 Ross, Herefordshire
Charlotte Pearce abt 1823 Ross, Herefordshire

1851
Joseph Pearce abt 1803 Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ross, Herefordshire
Elizabeth Pearce abt 1799 Tiberton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ross, Herefordshire
John Pearce abt 1826 Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ross, Herefordshire
Thomas Pearce abt 1828 Ross, Herefordshire, England Son Ross, Herefordshire

1851
William Morgan abt 1801 Usk, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Usk, Monmouthshire
Henrietta Morgan abt 1811 Olveston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Usk, Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Morgan abt 1839 Usk Daughter Usk, Monmouthshire
Henrietta Morgan abt 1832 Usk, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Usk, Monmouthshire

Name: John Marfell Pearce
Name: Henrietta Morgan
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Pontypool
County: Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: 233

1861
John Pearce abt 1826 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ross, Herefordshire
Henrietta Pearce abt 1831 Usk, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Ross, Herefordshire
Ada Pearce abt 1858 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ross, Herefordshire
Clara Pearce abt 1856 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ross, Herefordshire
Hellen Pearce abt 1860 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ross, Herefordshire
Henrietta Pearce abt 1852 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ross, Herefordshire
Laura Pearce abt 1856 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ross, Herefordshire
William Pearce abt 1854 Ross, Herefordshire, England Son Ross, Herefordshire

Name: Annie Maud Pearce
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 6a
Page: 485

1871
Laura C Pearse abt 1857 Ross, Herefordshire, England Pupil Ross, Herefordshire

John Marfell PEARCE Ross on Wye (reply)

jimashton — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:12:45 +0000

Dave

You have me really intrigued. The Marfell Family are my main interest and the Marfell name is often used as a middle name when a Marfell lady has married, I also have one case of a "Jones" changing his name to Marfell Jones to please his spouse. Could you tell me more about John Marfell Pearce, I may be able to help you. I have 1452 Marfell's in my family tree, mostly with every associated Census entry, I have about 660 Marfell certificates and every Marfell Birth, Marriage & Death register entry.

The only link I can find between the Marfell's and the Pearce family is that an Alma Emily Pearce married George Edwin Marfell, but this marriage took place on 9th April 1903, Christchurch, New Zealand and he was born in Kentucky, USA in 1865. George Edwin Marfell is obviously not connected, he is on the 1870 Census Scott Township, Allegheny, Pennsylvania. USA.

Jim Ashton

John Marfell PEARCE Ross on Wye

golfbluejake — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:05:45 +0000

I am having difficulty in finding a John Marfell Pearce on the 1871 census for Ross on Wye. He appears on the 1861 Census living at Broad Street Ross. His occupation is shown as Grocer/Ironmonger and his age is shown as 35 and born in Mitcheldean. If anyone is able to shed any light on this I would be very gratefull.

Regards, Dave Stamp