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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, of course, de eadem becomes de eaden in the transcription. Thank you!</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>&quot;de eadem&quot; (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term de eadem occurs regularly in the parish registers it means &quot;of the same&quot; and usually indicates that the bride is of the same parish as the groom.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>? HUNMANDE/HARE/HANMAN (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, slowhands - it seems likely that Thomas and Elizabeth were the parents of my Alice and a brother or sister. If they were in Over in 1700 and then in Churcham in 1705, reading de Eade as Churcham for the marriage of Jonathan and Alice in 1720 becomes even more plausible.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>HANMAN (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The earliest so far</p>
<p>Men in Armour for Gloucestershire 1608</p>
<p>Anelme HANMAN - Sailor A20 (age 20) tallest stature, Sailor, Elmore</p>
<p>Some HANDMAN - various other places.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.coaley.net/glos1608/index.php">http://www.coaley.net/glos1608/index.php</a></p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>? HUNMANDE/HARE/HANMAN (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well, it looks as though Hanman is a real possibility. And possibly Churcham is de Eaden (the children were baptised in Churcham). </p>
<p>But I am not sure how to chase this further - I cannot find Alice's or Jonathan's baptism - or even burials. If they were married in St. Peter's 'by invitation' could they be buried there?. They were presumably born c 1700 at the latest, more likely 1690ish. This makes Henry Hanman and Anna Ball the only likely candidates for Alice's parents. </p>
<p>The Hares seem to have large gaps...</p>
</blockquote><p><br />
You are getting into &quot;misty&quot; times with the records/registers,  one to consider</p>
<p>Year: 1705 <br />
Month: Dec <br />
Day: 20 <br />
Parents_Surname: HANMAN <br />
Child_Forenames: not stated <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Over <br />
Occupation:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: Tho[mas] Thache Vic[ar] <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes: Any abbreviated forenames have been expanded to the full name <br />
Register_Reference: P83 IN 1/1 <br />
Page_Number: 89 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Churcham</p>
<p>Churcham / Minsterworth not too far apart</p>
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Year: 1700 <br />
Month: Mar <br />
Day: 10 <br />
Parents_Surname: HANMAN <br />
Child_Forenames: Alice <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence:  <br />
Occupation: Farrier <br />
Officiating_Minister:  <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes: Old style date 1699/1700 <br />
Register_Reference: P218 IN 1/1 <br />
Page_Number:  <br />
Parish_Chapel: Minsterworth</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Alicia HUNMANDE/HARE (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you check the Gloucestershire Records Office - Will base  - there are loads of HANMAN/HANDMAN  - from Elsmore and other places etc around that time - this should help give some indication where they were all living - can see family names i.e. Anselm HANMAN 1691 Elmore</p>
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<a href="http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Search.aspx">http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Search.aspx</a></p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it looks as though Hanman is a real possibility. And possibly Churcham is de Eaden (the children were baptised in Churcham). </p>
<p>But I am not sure how to chase this further - I cannot find Alice's or Jonathan's baptism - or even burials. If they were married in St. Peter's 'by invitation' could they be buried there?. They were presumably born c 1700 at the latest, more likely 1690ish. This makes Henry Hanman and Anna Ball the only likely candidates for Alice's parents. </p>
<p>The Hares seem to have large gaps...</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
<category>General</category><dc:creator>francesmillard</dc:creator>
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<title>Alicia HUNMANDE/HARE (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Glos Marriage Index pre 1800 - only has a few marriage pre 1754 but here is these Groom marriages</p>
<p>Henry HANMAN  married at Fretherne to Anna BALL from Wheatenhurst - 5 April 1687</p>
<p>Anselm HANMAN from Elmore - married at Berkeley - Elizabeth HOBBY - 20 December 1753</p>
<p>John HANMAN from Elmore - married at Berkeley - Mary KENN - 22 February 1753</p>
<p>William HANMAN - married at Glos St John the Baptist - Ann LEWIS - 23 September 1793</p>
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and Brides</p>
<p>Ann HANMAN married Stephen KING at <strong>Elmore</strong> - 9 December 1697<br />
Elizabeth HANMAN married John TURNER at <strong>Elmore</strong> - 30 November 1721<br />
Elizabeth HANMAN married by Lic at Glos. S. Michael, William STOCK - 12 Jan 1779<br />
Hanah HANMAN married (John DAVIS from Arlingham) at Fretherne - 12 April 1701<br />
Joan HANMAN married John WILKINS at Fretherne - 26 May 1684<br />
Mary HANMAN married Thomas HARRIS at Moreton Valance - 2 November 1695<br />
Mary HANMAN from Berkeley married Joseph PEARCE (wid) at Slimbridge - 27 November 1755<br />
Mary HANMAN married William HARRIS from S. Owen at Glos. St Mary de Crypt - 14 April 1772<br />
Sarah HANMAN married John WATHEN at<strong> Elmore</strong> - 16 February 1719<br />
Anne HANMON married Thomas ALDRIDGE at Arlingham - 25 April 1751<br />
Mary HANNIMAN? of Cold Sapperton - married John DYER of Cold Sapperton at Hampnett - 5 November 1751</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Alicia HUNMANDE (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very pleased with new leads, I will keep delving. Thanks all</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Alicia HUNMANDE/HARE (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks - gives me something to go on.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wonder if it maybe Alice HANMAN, common name in that area. Family Search has two Alice HANMANs, one baptised 14/2/1703 in Elmore (very close to Hardwicke) father John. And another baptised 10/3/1699 in Minsterworth (very close but across the river)(there was a ferry)parents Thomas &amp; Elizabeth. Churcham close to Minsterworth too. You could follow those two up.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at Gloucestershire Marriage Index CD pre 1800 - there are only two male HARE marriages listed</p>
<p>James HARE of Hardwick, married Hannah HALE at Fretherne - 12 June 1724 (where Jonathan HARE is from)<br />
Thomas HARE married Martha WOOD at Slimbridge - 20 August 1764</p>
<p>Can't see any female HARE marriages or<br />
 the surname/variants HUNMANDE</p>
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Fod Records</p>
<p>15 May 1720</p>
<p>Jonathon HARE - residence: Hrdwick</p>
<p>married</p>
<p>Alicia HUNMANDE</p>
<p>residence: de eaden   (?Upleadon)</p>
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<p>Ancestry - two baptism at Hardwick</p>
<p>Ann HARE - 19 April 1747 - James &amp; Mrey</p>
<p>Richard - 25 September 1748 - James &amp; Marey</p>
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<p><br />
Kings Stanley Marriages (on the net)</p>
<p>James HARE of Hardwick married Mary WOOD - 31 October 1743</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>15 May 1720 Alicia Hunmande married Jonathan Hare in Gloucester Cathderal. Could this be Alicia (Alice) Hunman de somewhere? (Her residence is listed as de Eaden but I cannot find Eaden). </p>
</blockquote><p>I wonder if the record is CHURCHAM but transcribed as &quot;de eaden&quot; because that is the way the handwriting looks - &quot;ch&quot; read as &quot;d&quot; or &quot;de&quot;</p>
<blockquote><p>I have found their children but not their forebears. Could anyone be married in the Cathedral? </p>
</blockquote><p>I suspect that you would have needed &quot; an introduction&quot; to marry in St Peters unless it was your parish church i.e. the Precincts.</p>
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Any help with Hares or Hunman(de)s greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Year: 1720 <br />
Month: May <br />
Day: 15 <br />
Grooms_Surname: HARE <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Jonathon <br />
Grooms_Age:  <br />
Groom_Condition:  <br />
Grooms_Occupation:  <br />
Grooms_Residence: Hrdwick {HARDWICKE}<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:  <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:  <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Surname: HUNMANDE <br />
Brides_Forenames: Alicia <br />
Brides_Age:  <br />
Brides_Condition:  <br />
Brides_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Residence: de eaden {CHURCHAM}<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname:  <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:  <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:  <br />
Licence_or_Banns:  <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark:  <br />
Witness_1:  <br />
Witness_2:  <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister:  <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: PMF154/2 <br />
Page_Number: 53 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Gloucester Cathedral {St PETERS}</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15 May 1720 Alicia Hunmande married Jonathan Hare in Gloucester Cathderal. Could this be Alicia (Alice) Hunman de somewhere? (Her residence is listed as de Eaden but I cannot find Eaden). I have found their children but not their forebears. Could anyone be married in the Cathedral? Any help with Hares or Hunman(de)s greatly appreciated.</p>
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