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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff,</p>
<p>A handy transcription did you say it was on this site? I haven't used this site before so still finding its treasures. The mag room sorry was the lovely (not) iPad spell checker it was just supposed to say &quot;the groom&quot; lol.  The person that did the transcription seems to have some inside knowledge as there's nothing on the cert that says that Thomas Hulin is the parish clerk.  There again other than the &quot;Boten&quot; Thomas is the only other illegible bit it looks more like Marcus, I wouldn't have guessed Thomas.  The &quot;Boten&quot; of Yorkley is written next to the groom &amp; Ha (a superscript underlined) of St Briavels is written next to the Bride.  It's a certified facsimile that I have from the GRO, who also guessed Boten. If you squint you can imagine it says &quot;both&quot; so given the transcribers other knowledge I'm going to go with that.  On the census the following year, they are living with the brides family, although the address is listed as Middle Forge, Tintern Parva, not St Briavels.  I am still to track down Samuel Jones, until very recently the family doing research before me had him down as John not Samuel. I know one of the families goes from here to Ireland from pass down from my great grandmother their granddaughter.  I have some jewellery of Ruth's mothers, at least I thought it was Ruth's mothers as my mothers little made up rhyme that counted back daughter to mother after Brown came Smith but I think Ruth's mother was Bailey so perhaps it's Edwards mother whose Smith. The jewellery was made in Ireland.  So I've got a long way to go yet but perseverance brings rewards.<br />
Many Thanks for your help<br />
Lisa</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lisa,<br />
I don't recognise Boten at all, altho I'm not a Yorkley man.</p>
<p>Have you seen this site's transcript of the Marriage PR ?, namely</p>
<p>Record_ID: 23093 <br />
Entry_Number: 84 <br />
Year: 1840 <br />
Month: Oct <br />
Day: 25 <br />
Grooms_Surname: JONES <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Edward <br />
Grooms_Age: Full <br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: Engaged in iron work <br />
Grooms_Residence: <strong>Both of </strong>Yorkley H[undre]d of St Briavels <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Jones <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Samuel <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Engaged in iron work <br />
Brides_Surname: BROWN <br />
Brides_Forenames: Ruth <br />
Brides_Age: Full <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Residence:  <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Brown <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: James <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Engaged in iron works <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark <br />
Witness_1: Thomas Hulin-P Clerk <br />
Witness_2: Emma Hulin <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: [illegible] <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/12 <br />
Page_Number: 42 <br />
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels <br />
Soundex_Groom: J520 <br />
Soundex_Bride: B650 </p>
<p>I wonder if &quot;Boten&quot; is an erroneous transcription of the old handwritten &quot;Both of&quot; of St Briavels, as more accurately transcribed above ?</p>
<p>I don't know for sure, but I presume the Certificate you have is transcribed from the same original PR as this ?.</p>
<p>It may be possible for one of this site's volunteers to take another look at the original PR. I once had a similar enquiry and they kindly checked the PR at Gloster Archives, and even sent me a photo of it, for which I was vey gratefull. See <a href="http://www.forest-of-dean.net/index.php/resources/parish-records">http://www.forest-of-dean.net/index.php/resources/parish-records</a></p>
<p>If you've not done so I recommend reading this detailed history of Yorkley life<br />
<a href="http://www.british-history.ac.uk/search.aspx?query=yorkley">http://www.british-history.ac.uk/search.aspx?query=yorkley</a></p>
<p>Finally, sorry for asking, but what do you mean by &quot;mag room&quot; ?.</p>
<p>Hope this helps, Jeff.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I wonder if anyone can help.  I have a marriage certificate for Edward Jones son of Samuel Jones &amp; Ruth Brown daughter of James brown married 25 Oct 1840 at St Briavels witnesses look to be Marcus? &amp; Emma Halin.  Brides please of residence is hamlet of St Briavels. Mag rooms however definitely says of Yorkley but it appears to say Boten of Yorkley (I have asked the GRO &amp; they can read no better).  All are listed as engaged in iron works.  They move to Birmingham shortly afterwards &amp; his is still a wire puller. Has anybody got any ideas as to what Boten is or a better suggestion to what it might actually say?<br />
Thanks<br />
Lisa</p>
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