Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Missing JOYNES

Missing JOYNES (reply)

Mike Pinchin — Tue, 22 May 2018 22:31:15 +0000

There are these entries from Ancestry for the Gloucestershire Debtors Registers,

Theophilus JOYNES, defendant,

Admission date Aug 28th 1869
Plaintiff, William CLEMENTS
Discharged Sept 10 1869
Debts/Costs £7 17s 6d
Period remanded, County Court at Gloucester for 14 days

Admission date Dec 14th 1870
Plaintiff, Thomas Cullimore
Discharged Dec 22nd 1870
Debts/Costs £1 7s 5d
Period remanded, County Court at Monmouth for 10 days
Arrested Dec 13th 1870

Admission date Jan 3rd 1870
Plaintiff, William CLEMENTS
Discharged Jan 22nd 1870
Debts/Costs £7 17s 6d
Period remanded, County Court at Gloucester for 21 days

Admission date Mar 23rd 1871
Plaintiff, William CLEMENTS
Discharged Apr 20th 1871
Debts/Costs £7 17s 6d
Period remanded, County Court at Gloucester for 30 days
Arrested Mar 22nd 1871

This could be Theophilus JOYNES the Elder and the last one might explain his absence from the 1871 Census entry.

Missing JOYNES (reply)

cmfenton — Tue, 22 May 2018 19:06:07 +0000

Just a couple of quick items. If you check the Parish Records here you will find a baptism of Emma Bennett in 1844 in Newland - parents Edmund and Mary.
This seems to fit your 1871 marriage of Emma to Theophilus Joynes where Emma's father's name is given as Edmund - also at Newland.

Doesn't seem to link to any of the Bennett's in my family tree but I may find one later.

Best regards,
-Colin

Missing JOYNES

Clements Tump — Mon, 21 May 2018 12:17:19 +0000

Theophilus JOYNES b1828 married Emma Martin b1829 in 1848. They had 11 children
- George JOYNES b1849 d1849.
- Theophilus JOYNES b1850. Married Emma BENNETT b1845 in 1871. Neither appear after the 1871 census and no births on GRO.
Unable to find deaths in GRO. Did they emigrate?
- Mary Ann JOYNES b1852, unmarried & d1923
- Thomas JOYNES b1855 but does not appear after the 1871 census. No death in GRO.
- Herbert JOYNES b1857 but does not appear after the 1871 census. No death in GRO.
- Emma JOYNES b1859, married Henry WILCE in 1883. They had 10 children. Emma WILCE d1938.
- Hedley JOYNES b1861 & d1864.
- Frederick JOYNES b1863 but does not appear after the 1881 census. No death in GRO.
- Lily JOYNES b1866, married George William LEWIS in Oldham in 1887. They had 7 children. Lily LEWIS died in Oldham in 1918.
- Lucy Jane JOYNES b1871, married James WATTS b1849 Woolwich in Newport in 1910. Lucy Jane Watts d1926 in Tiverton. Info re
James Watts comes only from 1911 census, but he is not in earlier censuses and can find no death registration.
- Hedley b1875 & died 1876
I have managed to find birth, marriage and death details of all the family apart from
- Theophilus and Emma JOYNES after 1871
- Thomas JOYNES after the 1871 census
- Herbert JOYNES after the 1871 census
- James WATTS after the 1911 census
If anyone can give me some clues I would be very grateful.