Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Gertrude Mary HALE 1894 Cinderford

Gertrude Mary HALE 1894 Cinderford (reply)

jack63kids — Sat, 01 Jan 2011 14:22:19 +0000

Sorry, just reread and realise that you mean that the stated marriage rules out that she is the same as the person in my tree.

Thanks for getting back to me - I shall try a few more avenues now and not get stuck down a cul de sac.

Happy New Year,
Jack

Gertrude Mary HALE 1894 Cinderford (reply)

jack63kids — Sat, 01 Jan 2011 14:18:14 +0000

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.

My gal's details that I am certain of are as follows:

2nd marriage - Marriages Dec 1939
Ballinger Benjamin - Mitchell
Mitchell Gertrude - Ballinger
Stroud 6a1885

Marriages Sep 1916
Hale Gertrude - Mitchell
Mitchell George - Hale
W.Bromwich 6b1337

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005  Name: Gertrude Ballinger
Death Registration Month/Year: 1961 Age at death (estimated): 73
Registration district: Stroud Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b Page: 713
Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.

I have no idea which are her birth records however:

?Births Dec 1896 Hale Gertrude W. Bromwich 6b850
Found one Gert HALE bCanderford - assume this is Forrest of Dean, Glouc in 1901 census
Same one in your tree. Doesn't look like she's mine however from what I can gather. Just keen to rule her out so I can look in more depth at others if needbe.

I'm in touch with a direct descendant, as far as I can tell from the little we've exchanged so far, and I wanted to help her go a little further if possible.

Best,
Jack
Mrs Jackie LEEVERS nee SAVAGE

Gertrude HALE 1896 Rood End, Oldbury West Mids (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:49:26 +0000

i suspect this is your "Gertrude"

Name: Gertrude Hale
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: West Bromwich
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6b
Page: 850

1901
Joseph Hale abt 1860 Rood End, Worcestershire, England Head Oldbury, Worcestershire
Maria Hale abt 1856 Whitcheath, Worcestershire, England Wife Oldbury, Worcestershire
Alice M Hale abt 1878 Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Daughter Oldbury, Worcestershire
Bert Hale abt 1885 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Son Oldbury, Worcestershire
Edith Hale abt 1886 Rood End, Worcestershire, England Daughter Oldbury, Worcestershire
Florence Hale abt 1888 Rood End, Worcestershire, England Daughter Oldbury, Worcestershire
Ethel M Hale J abt 1890 Rood End, Worcestershire, England Daughter Oldbury, Worcestershire
Ann Hale abt 1892 Rood End, Worcestershire, England Daughter Oldbury, Worcestershire
Joseph Hale abt 1894 Rood End, Worcestershire, England Son Oldbury, Worcestershire
Gertrude Hale abt 1897 Rood End, Worcestershire, England Daughter Oldbury, Worcestershire

Gertrude Mary HALE 1894 Cinderford (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:41:00 +0000

Name: Gertrude Mary Hale
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 233

a marriage to rule out:-

Name: Gertrude Hale
Name: John W Jones
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's Surname: Jones
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 543

Year: 1913
Month: Apl
Day: 16
Grooms_Surname: JONES
Grooms_Forenames: John William
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: Grocer's Assistant
Grooms_Residence: Gladys House Merthyr S[outh] W[ales]
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Jones
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Daniel
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Shoe Maker [deceased]
Brides_Surname: HALE
Brides_Forenames: Gertrude
Brides_Age: 23
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Cinderford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Hale
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Engine Driver
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: William John Hale
Witness_2: Margaret Jones
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: J Martin Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/2 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 21
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen

Henry HALE 1849 - dau Gertrude HALE (reply)

jack63kids — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 14:36:54 +0000

Do you know who Henry's dau Gertrude (who is about 6 in 1901 census) later married? I want to confirm or eliminate her from a search if possible. I see this was a posting from some years ago, so crossing my fingers that you're still a member here.

My gal married twice that I know of and these are her likely details in order of certainty:

Marriages Dec 1939
Ballinger Benjamin - Mitchell
Mitchell Gertrude - Ballinger
Stroud 6a1885

Marriages Sep 1916
Hale Gertrude - Mitchell
Mitchell George - Hale
W.Bromwich 6b1337

?Births Dec 1896 Hale Gertrude W. Bromwich 6b850

Could this possibly be the same Gertrude as yours from Canderford?

Best regards,
Jack
Mrs Jackie LEEVERS nee SAVAGE

John HALE 1819 - Coleford (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 09:30:35 +0000

Year 1819
Month Apr
Day 4

Parents Surname HALE
Child Forename(s) John

Father's Forename(s) Henry
Mother's Forename(s) Nancy
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Hundred of St Briavels
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister Henry Poole Minister
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P93 IN 1/4
Page No 34
Parish/Chapel Coleford

Year 1815
Month Feb
Day 4

Groom Surname HALE
Groom Forename(s) Henry
Groom Age at Marriage
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession
Groom Residence Hundred of St Briavels
Groom Father's Surname
Groom Father's Forename(s)
Groom Father's Rank or Profession

Bride Surname HAWKINS
Bride Forename(s) Ann
Bride Age at Marriage
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence Hundred of St Briavels
Bride Father's Surname
Bride Father's Forename(s)
Bride Father's Rank or Profession

Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both Mark
Witness 1 Mark of Thomas Hale
Witness 2 Mark of Sarah Hawkins
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister William Nunn Curate
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P227 IN 1/11
Page No 27
Parish/Chapel Newland

1841 Lane End ?
Henry Hale abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Ann Hale abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Ann Hale abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Hannah Hale abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Harriet Hale abt 1823 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
John Hale abt 1820 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire

1841 Lambsquay ?
John Hale abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Newland Gloucestershire

Henry HALE 1849 - 1919 Joyford part 2 (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 09:22:18 +0000

Year 1841
Month Dec
Day 25

Groom Surname HALE
Groom Forename(s) John
Groom Age at Marriage Full
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession Collier
Groom Residence Both of Lane End Forest of Dean
Groom Father's Surname Hale
Groom Father's Forename(s) Henry
Groom Father's Rank or Profession Collier

Bride Surname NELMS
Bride Forename(s) Harriet
Bride Age at Marriage Full
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence
Bride Father's Surname Nelms
Bride Father's Forename(s) John
Bride Father's Rank or Profession Collier

Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark He signs she marks
Witness 1 Thomas Hulin-P Clerk
Witness 2 Emma Hulin
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister [illegible]
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P278 IN 1/12
Page No 57
Parish/Chapel St Briavels

Year 1842
Month Nov
Day 17

Parents Surname HALE
Child Forename(s) Edith

Father's Forename(s) John
Mother's Forename(s) Harriot
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Lane End
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister T.R. Garnsey
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference 8212
Page No 78
Parish/Chapel Christchurch

Year 1849
Month Mar
Day 26

Parents Surname HALE
Child Forename(s) Henry

Father's Forename(s) John
Mother's Forename(s) Harriet
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Top of Joyford
Occupation Engineer
Officiating Minister J. Banks M.A. Perp[etual]. Curate.
Event type Baptism
Memoranda P[rivately] B[aptised] Aug 3 received.
Notes
Register Reference PFC82 IN 1/3
Page No 21
Parish/Chapel Christchurch

Henry HALE 1849 - 1919 Joyford

slowhands — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:16:49 +0000

1851 West dean / Joyford
HALE John 31 Engineer West Dean
Harriet 31 West Dean
Edith 8 Scholar
Emma 5 Scholar West Dean
Henry 2 West Dean
Thomas 7M West Dean

Year 1852
Month Aug
Day 15

Parents Surname HALE
Child Forename(s) John

Father's Forename(s) John
Mother's Forename(s) Harriet
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Joyford
Occupation Engineer
Officiating Minister W.H. Taylor
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference PFC82 IN 1/3
Page No 45
Parish/Chapel Christchurch

1861
John Hale abt 1819 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Harriet Hale abt 1819 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Ann Hale abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Charlotte Hale abt 1845 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Emma Hale abt 1847 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Henry Hale abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
John Hale Junr abt 1854 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Hale abt 1851 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
William Hale abt 1860 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

1871
John Hale abt 1819 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Harriett Hale abt 1819 Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Henry Hale abt 1849 Wyford [JOYFORD], Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
James Hale abt 1863 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
John Hale abt 1853 Wyford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
William Hale abt 1860 Wyford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

1881
Henry Hale abt 1845 Parkend, Gloucestershire, England Head Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Hale abt 1851 Parkend, Gloucestershire, England Wife Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire, England
Bertha Hale abt 1872 Parkend, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Hale abt 1875 Parkend, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire, England
Henry Hale abt 1873 Parkend, Gloucestershire, England Son Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire, England
John Hale abt 1877 Parkend, Gloucestershire, England Son Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire, England
Joseph Hale abt 1878 Parkend, Gloucestershire, England Son Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Hale abt 1880 Littledean Hill, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire, England

1891 Ruspidge
Hale, Henry abt 1848 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Hale, Elizath abt 1850 Ruspidge, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Hale, Bessie abt 1875 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Hale, Earnest abt 1885 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Hale, Frank abt 1887 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Hale, Fred L abt 1882 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Hale, Harbert abt 1890 Ruspidge, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Hale, Henry abt 1874 Ruspidge, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Hale, John abt 1877 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Hale, Joseph abt 1878 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Hale, Sarah abt 1880 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire

Herbert died June 27 th 1891 - 11 months old
Harold died July 14th 18912 - 2 weeks old
Rowland died Nov 1895 aged 10 weeks
Lucy Nov 1900 aged 10 months

1901
Henry Hale abt 1849 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Alice Hale abt 1859 Canderford, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Amelia Hale abt 1899 Canderford Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Earnest Hale abt 1886 Canderford Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Frank Hale abt 1888 Canderford Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Fred Hale abt 1883 Canderford Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Gertrude Hale abt 1895 Canderford Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Joseph Hale abt 1880 Canderford Son East Dean Gloucestershire

Amelia died Dec 1902
Henry Hale died Nov 17 ? 1919