I have taken the liberty of starting a new post about William E. Tovey and Earnest Parsloe being the same person, putting forward my "hypothesis".
I have done this rather than complicate your "Tovey" post or create more confusion. (especially for me)
It should be self explanatory. If sources are required, i can provide them although most of my ramblings just expanded on Graham Davison's original thought.

Sid Toomey

Have now found a marriage of EARNEST PARSLOE to ANNIE MATILDA KNIGHT on 18 February 1895 at St. Luke, Gloucester.

It all seems to fit!!

It looks as if Annie M. completed the 1921 census form, and the way she wrote Annie on the form seems to match her signature on the marriage certificate...

KNIGHT, Anne Matilda - mother's maiden name: KENDALL
GRO Reference, 1877 D Quarter WESTBURY ON SEVERN Volume - 06A Page 257

The grandmother`s name has been mistranscribed, it should be ANN KENDALL who is the grandmother of Annie Matilda.

Searching I have found:

Annie Matilda Knight dau of Oliver Knight & Matilda Kendall born 1877.

Matilda Kendall dau of Elias Kendall & Ann Wall, so Ann Kendall (nee Wall) is Annie Matilda`s grandmother, which doesn`t help with the Tovey`s!!

Brilliant - that's why I couldn't find her previously. As you say, the Tovey connection is still elusive, but thank you so much for piecing this together.

Searching I have found:

Annie Matilda Knight dau of Oliver Knight & Matilda Kendall born 1877.

Matilda Kendall dau of Elias Kendall & Ann Wall, so Ann Kendall (nee Wall) is Annie Matilda`s grandmother, which doesn`t help with the Tovey`s!!

William E Tovey Head Tin Plate Worker age 38 Born Gloucestershire
Annie Tovey Wife age 32 Born Blakeney
Violet Tovey Dau age 15 Born Gloster
Eric Tovey Son GPO Telegraph Messenger age 13 Born Newport Mon
Ann Thendall Grandmother Widow age 82 Born Eastington, Glos
Willie Roberts Adopted son age 2 Born Whitchurch, Cardiff
Thos
there are also 4 boarders

William & Annie clain to have been married for 16 years and to have 3 children with 2 still living, their address is 2 Park Villa, Abertillery, Mon.

Tracing the grandmother may shed more light on the family.

Just a quick response to "Parsoe" possibility. I agree it needs more research. However, there are criminal records for desertion and child neglect in Gloucester which seem to fit this bloke after the date of his marriage.

Do you have any more details?

Sid Toomey

I thought I would throw a slightly off beam element into this fascinating conversation! Toveys is the name of a long established (1860s) funeral director in Newport (my home town). You may already know that but I mention it as some of my Forest connections ended up in Newport no doubt as it was one of the fastest growing places in the area at that time.

Hi Paul,

Yes, I'm aware of the Tovey brothers in Newport, but I don't believe that there is a family connection. Thanks for getting in touch and, yes, my post has certainly made for a fascinating conversation!

I thought I would throw a slightly off beam element into this fascinating conversation! Toveys is the name of a long established (1860s) funeral director in Newport (my home town). You may already know that but I mention it as some of my Forest connections ended up in Newport no doubt as it was one of the fastest growing places in the area at that time.

Regards

Paul

What dob does Violet M E ADAMS - give on the 1939 census

18 Nov 1895

Violet M E TOVEY - born c 1896

on FreeBDM

marries

Charles G ADAMS - Dec Qtr, Bedwelty District 1913.

GRO (gives children's middle names in full) unlike FREEBMD

ADAMS, William Charles - mother's maiden name TOVEY
GRO Reference: 1915 M Quarter in BEDWELLTY, Volume 11A Page 175

ADAMS, Annie Lucille - mother's maiden name TOVEY
GRO Reference: 1917 M Quarter in BEDWELLTY, Volume 11A Page 146

ADAMS, Joan Brettle - mother's maiden TOVEY
GRO Reference - 1926 - M Qtr in BEDWELLTY, Volume 11A Page 133

? BRETTLE is that a family surname

I know of Annie and Joan, but not William (so thanks for that). I haven't heard of the Brettle name.

Violet M E TOVEY - born c 1896

on FreeBDM

marries

Charles G ADAMS - Dec Qtr, Bedwelty District 1913.

GRO (gives children's middle names in full) unlike FREEBMD

ADAMS, William Charles - mother's maiden name TOVEY
GRO Reference: 1915 M Quarter in BEDWELLTY, Volume 11A Page 175

ADAMS, Annie Lucille - mother's maiden name TOVEY
GRO Reference: 1917 M Quarter in BEDWELLTY, Volume 11A Page 146

ADAMS, Joan Brettle - mother's maiden TOVEY
GRO Reference - 1926 - M Qtr in BEDWELLTY, Volume 11A Page 133

? BRETTLE is that a family surname

Annie Matilda KNIGHT born Newnham 1877 mother`s maiden name KENDALL

This leads to:

OLIVER KNIGHT married MATILDA KENDALL 26 December 1870 at Flaxley.

Hi Martyn

thanks for your reply.
For some reason i cant bring up and member of this Tovey family in the 1911 Census for Abertillery , Wales.
Also Ancestry doesn't have the 1921 Census.
To help me, would you mind sending me a transcription of the family member details in each of those Census.
In particular, Age, Place of birth, street address and the heading at the top of the Census page plus page number so that i can go through the census book to find out why my search doesn't produce it.

1901 - 71 Somerton Road Newport

William E, 28, Gloucester
Annie M, 23, Blakeney
Violet M E, 5, Gloucester
Eric F, 3, Newport

1911 - 2 Park Villa Abertillery

William, 38, Gloucester
Annie, 32, Blakeney
Violet, 15, Gloucester
Eric, 13, Newport

1921 - Abertillery

Annie, 43, Hagloe, Blakeney
William, 49, Gloucester
Eric, 23, Newport
Leslie, 13, Whitchurch, Cardiff

Perhaps I could chip in.

There is an Eric Frank Parsloe born in Q4 1897 in the Newport, Mon Registration District, which is consistent with Eric Frank Tovey`s birth date of 21 September 1897.

From the Glos BDMs there is also a Violet Magdalen Eleanor PARSLOE born in 1895 at Gloucester, South Hamlet.

Both seem to fit what you know, but needs more research.

Have now found a marriage of EARNEST PARSLOE to ANNIE MATILDA KNIGHT on 18 February 1895 at St. Luke, Gloucester.

It all seems to fit!!

Oh my goodness. That does all seem to fit. Thank you for chipping in! Definitely something to research further this afternoon. Fingers crossed :-)

M.

It all seems to fit!!

There is an Eric Frank Parsloe born in Q4 1897 in the Newport, Mon Registration District, which is consistent with Eric Frank Tovey`s birth date of 21 September 1897.

From the Glos BDMs there is also a Violet Magdalen Eleanor PARSLOE born in 1895 at Gloucester, South Hamlet.

Both seem to fit what you know, but needs more research.

thanks for your reply.
For some reason i cant bring up and member of this Tovey family in the 1911 Census for Abertillery , Wales.
Also Ancestry doesn't have the 1921 Census.
To help me, would you mind sending me a transcription of the family member details in each of those Census.
In particular, Age, Place of birth, street address and the heading at the top of the Census page plus page number so that i can go through the census book to find out why my search doesn't produce it.

Thanks

Sid Toomey.

PS you probable already know this but Amy Edmunds in the 1911 Census (before she became Eric Frank Tovey's wife), lived with her parents in the same street in Abertillery as Eric Frank when he was in the Army in WW1 and his mother Annie M. (This was after they were married and still there when their 9/10 month old son died.)
Trivia i know.

? Might be an idea to eliminate any DOVEY's on Ancestry etc. i.e. someones writing etc.

Yes, and I've also seen Lovey and Torey.

My maiden name and my Mum's parents, WICKENDEN from Blakeney - have been spelt many different ways.

Then again, my x Grandad William WICKENDEN - who was living in Blakeney with his Son, on one census - went to Swindon, Wiltshire, and on two census returns his surname was GREEN (his grandmother's maiden name). Only his and his wife's death certificate gave his correct surname.

:-)