Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Judith SMITH/William Little DAVIS

Judith SMITH/William Little DAVIS (reply)

Mike Pinchin — Fri, 16 Jan 2015 20:45:48 +0000

BNA, Hereford Times Saturday 01 April 1843

TRIALS OF PRISONERS IN THE NISI PRIUS COURT

GOODRICH – STEALING COAL

Judith Smith, the mother, aged 44, and Elizabeth Smith, the daughter, aged 13, were charged with stealing on the night of 13th March, about 1cwt of coal, the property of Ellen Wilce of Goodrich…………. A previous conviction was proved against the elder prisoner (the one for larceny at Ross -stealing a piece of cotton print)………..Guilty………….The prosecutor and Jury recommended the younger prisoner to mercy……..thought that the best thing that could be done for her would be to remove her from an abandoned and worthless mother, who, without doubt, had encouraged and brought her up in crime. (Sentence 12 months imprisonment and hard labour for the mother. The first and last to be in solitary confinement. The same term for the daughter but to be employed in such work as her tender years would admit of.)

Emma SINDREY/George LANE (reply)

shepway — Fri, 16 Jan 2015 14:43:54 +0000

Just to add to the post by MPGriffiths:

This is George Lane and family in 1881:
Address Given Name Surname Relationship to Head Marital Status Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Occupation Birth City Birth County Birth Country
George Lane Head Married 41 1840 Male Platelayer Newent Gloucestershire England
Charlotte Lane Wife Married 30 1851 Female Longhope Gloucestershire England
Charles Lane Son 14 1867 Male Flaxley Gloucestershire England
Annie Eliz. Lane Daughter 7 1874 Female Eastdean Gloucestershire England
Clara Lane Daughter 3 1878 Female Eastdean Gloucestershire England
Alice Georgina Lane Daughter Female Eastdean Gloucestershire England

Charles son of George and Emma/Emily is with him.

This tells us that he married again:
Year: 1872
Month: Jan
Day: 28
Grooms_Surname: LANE
Grooms_Forenames: George
Grooms_Age: 31
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Miner
Grooms_Residence: Bilson
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Lane (deceased)
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: STORRY
Brides_Forenames: Charlotte
Brides_Age: 22
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Bilson
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Storry
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign
Witness_1: Mark of Henry Priddy
Witness_2: Eliza Priddy
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 34
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

And this would appear to be Charlotte's baptism:
Year: 1850
Month: Oct
Day: 20
Parents_Surname: STERRAY
Child_Forenames: Charlotte
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Eliza
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Longhope
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: John MK White Off[iciatin]g Min[iste]r
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Dau
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 7
Parish_Chapel: Longhope

Baptism of 6 children on this site:
Year Surname First Name Fathers Forename Mothers Forename Event Parish/Chapel
1874 LANE Anne Eliza George Charlotte Baptism Drybrook
1876 LANE Wallace John George Charlotte Baptism Drybrook
1878 LANE Clara Elizabeth George Charlotte Baptism Drybrook
1880 LANE Alice Georgina George Charlotte Baptism Drybrook
1881 LANE Ada Agnes George Charlotte Baptism Drybrook
1883 LANE Bessie Abia George (the late) Charlotte Baptism Drybrook

George died 1883:
Year: 1883
Month: Sep
Day: 22
Surname: LANE
Forenames: George
Residence: The Plump
Age_at_death: 42
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death: [not sta
Memoranda: Name is annotated OY
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/12
Page_No: 174
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

Mike

Judith SMITH/William Little DAVIS (reply)

MPGriffiths — Fri, 16 Jan 2015 13:18:09 +0000

If Judith is the mother of William LITTLE (age 8 on the 1851 census)

On Ancestry - on the 15 March 1842 - Judith SMITH age 43 - Herefordshire was sentenced to 14 days for Larcecy

Judith SMITH married William LITTLE DAVIS - at Ross Herefordshire 1852

1861 Census, Goodrich

William DAVIES - 58
Judith DAVIS - 59 - born Monmouthshire Llandogo (Walter LITTLE witnessed her marriages to James SMITH at Goodrich 9 September 1822 - and Judith is living with Walter and his family etc on the 1841 census)

Emma SINDREY/George LANE (reply)

Carolbeagle — Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:55:17 +0000

Thanks for that - at least another direction to look in, the census information for monk Breton and Worksop does tie in with the William little I am looking for, and I think his parents were from Bristol, but doesn't tally with what my aunt thought, hence the need for further information!

Emma SINDREY/George LANE (reply)

MPGriffiths — Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:36:23 +0000

*****

Gloucestershirebdm

LANE/Mother's Surname name: CINDRY

Harriet - 1862 - Forest of Dean, Westbury on Severn, Newnham
Timothy - 1864 - Forest of Dean, Westbury on Severn, Newnham
Charles - 1867 - ditto
Lucy - 1870 - ditto (looks as though Emma run off with Lucy)

1871 Census, East Dean, Cinderford

George LANE - married - 31 - born East Dean
Harriett LANE - 9
Timothy LANE - 7
Cho LANE - 3
Mary GEOMCUS (as transcribed) age 41 - mother - Housekeeper - (think is reads YEOMANS) - born May Hill
Henry GEOMCUS - son - 3
Thomas PEART - 20 - Lodger

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Fod Records (pointed out by another forum user) and on Gloucestershirebmd

Marriage at Westbury on Severn Register Office - 1861

George LANE/Emma SINDRY *****

Emma LANE was a witness at a sibling's wedding at Cinderford St John

Year: 1864
Month: May
Day: 30
Grooms Surname: WHITE
Grooms Forenames: George Merrick
Grooms Age: 20
Groom Condition: Bachelor
Grooms Occupation: Mason Work
Grooms Residence: Woodside
Grooms Fathers Surname: WHITE
Grooms Fathers Forenames: William
Grooms Fathers Occupation: Gardener

Brides Surname: CINDERY
Brides Forenames: Jane
Brides Age: 26
Brides Condition: Spinster
Brides Occupation:
Brides Residence: Woodside
Brides Fathers Surname: CINDERY
Brides Fathers Forenames: Henry
Brides Fathers Occupation: Sawyer
Licence or Banns: Banns
Witnesses: Mark of Thomas JONES and Emma LANE

? Death not found of George or a marriage between William LITTLE and Emma LANE, ? did Emma run off with another man!

William LITTLE b1848/ Emma SINDERY b1841 (reply)

MPGriffiths — Fri, 16 Jan 2015 08:08:58 +0000

Any census information etc you already have - saves times and help other forum members who don't have access to these records. There are a number of Public Members Tree on Ancestry - one giving William LITTLE as being born in Bristol (Glos St George) 1848 - parents William & Elizabeth LITTLE - although here on the 1901 census, William say he was born in Hereford, Goodrich

1901 Census Yorkshire, Monk Bretton

No. 23 Littleworth

LITTLE

William - 60 Widower, Coalminer, born Hereford, Goodrich
William 34 - born Barnsley Yorkshire
Lucy - 16 - born Barnsley, Yorkshiire

1851 Census, Goodrich, Herefordshire

William LITTLE - Head - unmarried 45 - born Goodrich
Judeth (Sudeth) SMITH - 33 (Widow) - born Monmouth Landoga
William SMITH - 8 - born Herefordshire, Goodrich

? Up to 1840 - James & Judith SMITH were having children christened at Goodrich - then Henry 1840 - when Judith was a Widow

1841 Census, Goodrich, Herefordshire

William LITTLE - 65
Mary MERRY - 64
Judith SMITH - 46
Elizabeth SMITH - 11
Margaret SMITH - 5
Henry SMITH - 1

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1871 Census, Nottingham, Worksop

87 Sandy Lane

William LITTLE - 25 - Coalminer born N/K Gloucestershire
Emma LITTLE - 28 - born Little Dean Glos.
Lucy LITTLE - 7 months - born Little Dean Glos.

1881 Census, Yorkshire, Brampton Bierlow

LITTLE

William - 32 - born Nottinghamshire
Emma - 35 - born Gloucestershire
Emma - 8 - born Nottingham
William - 4 - born Rotherham Yorkshire
Henry 2 - born Yorkshire

William little b1848/ emma sindery b1841

Carolbeagle — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 21:47:42 +0000

Emma was born in littledean, daughter of Henry cinderey and mary Ann mount joy, she married William little (also born Gloucestershire ) round 1870 then moved to Worksop by 1873. Can't find the marriage - can anyone help? Does anyone know any more about William? They ended up in monk Breton Yorkshire.