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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jefff<br />
Many apologies for not replying sooner but I have been very unwell. Thank you for your help.<br />
I may have made it unclear on my original post but my interest is in the history of Station Road rather than the BOWEN family which I have well documented. </p>
<p>The John Bowen you refer to in 1871 census is my g uncle. The entry re his birth is ]difficult to read (Cwm Haven rather than Carmarthen) He was in fact born in Cwmafan, Glamorganshire (cf Michaelstone Parish records)</p>
<p><span style="color:#c6c;">1861 Census  Lydney  (Address &quot;house)<br />
John Bowen Head 30 Refiner of Iron  Cwm Haven <br />
Jemima Bowen Wife 33 Lydney<br />
Emily Bowen Daughter 3 Lydney<br />
Rachel Bowen Daughter 1 Lydney <br />
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My direct descendant is THOMAS BOWEN (b 1843 Rogerstone Monmouthshire)<br />
Their father also JOHN BOWEN and household appear as follows:-</p>
<p><span style="color:#c3c;">1861 Census Lydney . Road or Street &quot;Cottage&quot;</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#c3c;">John Bowen Head  53 Refiner Iron Manufacturer Glamorgan<br />
Joanna Bowen Wife 50 Wife Glamorgan<br />
Jenkin Bowen Son  19 Shearer in Tin Works  Pontypridd<br />
Thomas Bowen Son  17 Forgeman  Basleck (Bassleg) Monmouthshire<br />
Mary E Bowen Daughter 15 Scholar Monmouth<br />
Rhoda Bowen Daughter  12 Scholar Monmouth </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#c3c;">1871 Census Lydney Station Road<br />
Joan Bowen Head Widow 60 Margam<br />
Jenkin Bowen Son Unmarried 29 Shearer Tin Works<br />
Thomas Bowen Son Unmarried 27 Hammerman  Tin Plate Works Bassleg Monmouth<br />
Mary E Bowen Daughter Unmarried 25  Monmouth</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#c3c;">John's wife is sometimes referred to as Joan but also as Joanna or Joannah</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#c3c;"> If anyone is interested in further details of this family please e mail me.</span></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Please can anyone help with the history of Station Road? The 1871 census has my g g grandfather John BOWEN &quot;Refiner Iron Manufacture&quot; and family living in Station Road where John and his wife Joan BOWEN lived for the rest of their lives. 10 years previously the 1861 census has them located in &quot;Cottage&quot; . They moved to Lydney from Rogerstone, Monmouthshire circa 1852. Would &quot;cottage&quot; refer to the old cottages at Middle Forge or those in Swan Lane and did the &quot;cottages&quot; become Station Road?</p>
</blockquote><p>Hi KatieAnn,<br />
apologies for my late reply, I did start working on this when you first posted, however my own lack of personal experience/knowledge of the area bar driving thro on the A48 many years ago, plus some apparent ambiguities wrt your post, led me to wait for other replies first.<br />
Tonight I've revisited your query in some depth, and think I've made progress, or maybe just been studying the wrong family !?!. However I've foolishly just &quot;lost&quot; the lengthy text of my entire post before pressing &quot;send&quot;, my fault entirely, so will now ask you this one question to check I'm on the right tracks before I follow it up.</p>
<p>Please can you confirm if this is the same household you're researching ?.<br />
When I found them a few weeks ago, I vaguely recall reading John's wife went under a different name in the Census, and I found web postings confirming Joan was indeed a nickname?. However the more I've looked into your query tonight the more confused I'm getting, for various reasons, so seems wise to check with you before possibly going off at a tangent. </p>
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<span style="color:#006;">1871 Census</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#006;">Household schedule number Given Name Surname Relationship Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth City Birth County Birth Country</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#006;">John Bown Head(refiner of iron) 40 1831 Male Glamorgan Carmarthenshire Wales<br />
Jemima Bown Wife 43 1828 Female Lydney Gloucestershire England<br />
Emily Bown Daughter 13 1858 Female Lydney Gloucestershire England<br />
Rachael Bown Daughter 11 1860 Female Lydney Gloucestershire England<br />
John G Bown Son 10 1861 Male Lydney Gloucestershire England<br />
Thomas H Bown Son 7 1864 Male Lydney Gloucestershire England<br />
Albert Bown Son 8 Months 1870 Male Lydney Gloucestershire England</span></p>
<p>This family were in the area since 1861 at least, and at Station Road Lydney in 1881, so seem a good general fit in many ways, however I think there are discrepancies with your original post.</p>
<p>Looking forward to your reply so we can progress, many thanks, Jeff</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that Harry. Although somewhat ambiguous it seems that &quot;prior to 1880&quot; the lower part of Church Road was renamed Station Road. This seems to indicate that my relatives lived in the Foundry Cottages which ties in with <strong>John BOWEN's </strong>occupation.<br />
The enumerator of the 1861 census describes a great many addresses as &quot;cottages&quot; or &quot;houses&quot; which is not very helpful to us latter day family historians!<span style="color:#009;"></span></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may be something in this History of Lydney from the Victoria History of Gloucestershire.<br />
<a href="http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/glos/vol5/pp46-84">http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/glos/vol5/pp46-84</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please can anyone help with the history of Station Road? The 1871 census has my g g grandfather John BOWEN &quot;Refiner Iron Manufacture&quot; and family living in Station Road where John and his wife Joan BOWEN lived for the rest of their lives. 10 years previously the 1861 census has them located in &quot;Cottage&quot; . They moved to Lydney from Rogerstone, Monmouthshire circa 1852. Would &quot;cottage&quot; refer to the old cottages at Middle Forge or those in Swan Lane and did the &quot;cottages&quot; become Station Road?</p>
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