Charles Robert Vine was my grandfather, born in Bury 27 June 1868 and christened at St.Johns Church, Bury 16 July 1868.

My name is Charles Raymond Veno, named Charles for my father Lawrence Charles Veno (born Vine) who himself was named for Charles Robert Vine.

My father was the eldest child of Charles Vine's second family, born in Chester 1904.

I believe our name was altered to Veno as Charles Vine got into financial difficulties around 1900!

My grandfather died in 1937 just after I was born. He was well known around Chester as a courteous gentleman, rather impoverished but respected by those who knew him.

Some items mentioned on the Forest of Dean family history site seem to tie in with what my father told me over the years. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and how I wish I had questioned Dad at greater length.

I will leave it at that for the moment to see if you reply...I do not know if you are still at the same email address.

Regards for now hoping to hear from you Ray Veno

Year: 1917
Month: Dec
Day: 1
Grooms_Surname: DOUCH
Grooms_Forenames: Horace William
Grooms_Age: 23
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:Private H.M Forces
Grooms_Residence: 34 Stanford Rd
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: DOUCH
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Charles Arthur
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Signwriter
Brides_Surname: Vine
Brides_Forenames: Florence May
Brides_Age: 23
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: -
Brides_Residence: 3 Middle St Chepstow, Mon
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Vine
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Charles Robert(Decd)
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Musician
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both sign
Witness_1: Susan Mary Douch
Witness_2: Daisy Winifred Vine
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Archibald Davies, Assistant Priest
Event: Marriage

Daphne
David
Doyle
Jonquil
Lynette
Paul
Philip
Dawn

Possible father for Horace - Charles Arthur Douch

Daisy died apparently from drinking tainted milk.

Possible UK offspring

Daphne J Douch Jul Aug Sep 1921 Marylebone Greater London
Walter P Douche Oct Nov Dec 1918 Marylebone Greater London

then off to NZ

Name: Daisy W Vine
Death Registration Month/Year: 1924
Age at death (estimated): 26
Registration district: Chepstow
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 11a
Page: 2

Year: 1924
Month: Jan
Day: 5
Surname: VINE
Forenames: Daisy
Residence: Regent House Chepstow
Age_at_death: 26 years
Officiating_Minister: Rev[eren]d D Hughes
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: [1]Domestic Servant [2]F[emale] [3][place of burial] Plot D [number of grave space] 13 [4][Unconsecrated ground] Yes
Notes:
Register_Reference: E
Page_No: 21
Parish_Chapel: Chepstow Municipal Cemetery

It just goes to show how family 'memories' can get distorted over the years

1851
Edwin Reeks abt 1820 Wollaston, Gloucestershire, England Head Tidenham Gloucestershire
Margaret Reeks abt 1822 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Tidenham Gloucestershire
Frances Reeksabt 1845 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham Gloucestershire
George Reeks abt 1848 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham Gloucestershire
Margaret Reeks abt 1850 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham Gloucestershire

Year: 1841
Month: Jun
Day: 27

Groom Surname: REEKES
Groom Forenames: Edward
Groom Age at Marriage: of full age
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession: Labourer
Groom Residence: Woolaston
Groom Father's Surname: Reekes
Groom Father's Forenames: Jacob
Groom Father's Rank or Profession: Labourer
Bride Surname: Thomas

Bride Forenames: Margaret
Bride Age at Marriage: of full age
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession: [not stated]
Bride Residence: Woolaston
Bride Father's Surname: Thomas
Bride Father's Forenames: John
Bride Father's Rank or Profession: Carpenter
Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: Both Mark
Witness 1: Mark of James Price
Witness 2: Mark of Mary Thomas
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: C Bryan Rector
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P376 IN 1/12
Page No: 11
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston

1841
Jacob Reeks abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Reeks abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone Gloucestershire
Edwin Reeks abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone Gloucestershire
Elija Reeks abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone Gloucestershire
Elizabetha Reeks abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone Gloucestershire
Emanuel Reeks abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone Gloucestershire
Emma Reeks abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone Gloucestershire
Maria Reeks abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone Gloucestershire
Thomas Reeks abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone Gloucestershire

Year: 1817
Month: Dec
Day: 8
Groom Surname: REEKS
Groom Forenames: Jacob
Groom Age at Marriage:
Groom condition:
Groom Rank or Profession:
Groom Residence: Woolaston
Groom Father's Surname:
Groom Father's Forenames:
Groom Father's Rank or Profession:
Bride Surname: PRICE
Bride Forenames: Elizabeth
Bride Age at Marriage:
Bride Condition:
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: Woolaston
Bride Father's Surname:
Bride Father's Forenames:
Bride Father's Rank or Profession:
Licence or Banns: banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: both mark
Witness 1: Mark of James Price
Witness 2: Wm Barber clark
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: Charles Bryan rector
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P376 IN 1/8
Page No: 6
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston

1881 Church St
Timothy Morgan abt 1847 Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Head Chepstow Monmouthshire
Margret Morgan abt 1851 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Chepstow Monmouthshire
Alice Morgan abt 1874 Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Daughter Chepstow Monmouthshire
Edith Morgan Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Daughter Chepstow Monmouthshire
Laura A. Morgan abt 1870 London, London, Middlesex, England Daughter Chepstow Monmouthshire
Vincent Morgan abt 1872 Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Son Chepstow Monmouthshire
Mary Morgan abt 1803 Llantrissant, Glamorgan, Wales Mother Chepstow Monmouthshire

1871
Timothy Morgan abt 1847 Mounton, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Chepstow Monmouthshire
Margaret Morgan abt 1850 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Chepstow Monmouthshire
Laura A Morgan abt 1870 East Ham, Essex, England Daughter Chepstow Monmouthshire

Name: Laura Annie Morgan
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 27

Name:Margaret Reekes
Name: Timothy Morgan
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 60

1861
Richard Morgan abt 1793 Shire Newton, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Chepstow Monmouthshire
Mary Morgan abt 1799 Lantussant, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Chepstow Monmouthshire
Hannah Morgan abt 1843 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Chepstow Monmouthshire
Timothy Morgan abt 1847 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Chepstow Monmouthshire

1851
Richard Magan abt 1791 Sperenenton, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Chepstow Monmouthshire
Mary Magan abt 1791 U K, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Chepstow Monmouthshire
Hannah Morgan abt 1842 Itton, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Chepstow Monmouthshire
James Magan abt 1833 Sherenewter, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Chepstow Monmouthshire
John Magan abt 1835 Matherne, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Chepstow Monmouthshire
Sarah Morgan abt 1836 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Chepstow Monmouthshire
Susannah Morgan abt 1840 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Chepstow Monmouthshire
Timothy Morgan abt 1847 Itton, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Chepstow Monmouthshire

1841 Thomas St
Richd Morgan abt 1796 Monmouthshire, Wales Chepstow Monmouthshire
Mary Morgan abt 1801 Monmouthshire, Wales Chepstow Monmouthshire
George Morgan abt 1829 Monmouthshire, Wales Chepstow Monmouthshire
James Morgan abt 1832 Monmouthshire, Wales Chepstow Monmouthshire
John Morgan abt 1834 Monmouthshire, Wales Chepstow Monmouthshire
Sarrah Morgan abt 1836 Monmouthshire, Wales Chepstow Monmouthshire
Susannah Morgan abt 1838 Monmouthshire, Wales Chepstow Monmouthshire

Name: Walter Morgan Vine
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Chepstow
County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 3

1901
Chas Robt Vine abt 1869 Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Head St Mary Shropshire
Laura A Vine abt 1870 Silverton, London, England Wife St Mary Shropshire
Daisy W Vine abt 1897 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Daughter St Mary Shropshire
Florence May Vine abt 1895 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Daughter St Mary Shropshire
Walter W Vine abt 1893 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Son St Mary Shropshire
Alice Emma Lee abt 1874 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Sister-in-law St Mary Shropshire
Chas Roberts abt 1865 Hackney, London, England Visitor St Mary Shropshire

< Silverton Devon ? for Laura ?>

1911
VINE WALTER N M 1893 18 Devonport Devonshire

Year: 1919
Month: Aug
Day: 25
Grooms_Surname: VINE
Grooms_Forenames: Walter Morgan
Grooms_Age: 26
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Leading Stoker
Grooms_Residence: Devonport
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Vine
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Charles Robert
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Vocalist
Brides_Surname: CAMBRIDGE
Brides_Forenames: Ada Maria
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Lydney
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Cambridge
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Walter George
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Blacksmith
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both sign
Witness_1: Walter John Beddis
Witness_2: Violet Barnett
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John C E Besant Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/18
Page_Number: 30
Parish_Chapel: Lydney

their children
Laura D Vine Oct Nov Dec 1919 Chepstow Wales
Walter R Vine Jul Aug Sep 1921 Chepstow Wales
Vernon Vine Oct Nov Dec 1923 Chepstow Wales
Barbara H Vine Jan Feb Mar 1926 Chepstow Wales
Laurence D Vine Oct Nov Dec 1928 Chepstow Wales

Name: Walter Morgan Vine
Birth Date: 21 Dec 1892
Death Registration Month/Year: 1976
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 2270

and then to
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=1688#p1929

G.G grandmother Morgan had 6 daughters who all married farmers. Some of the names remembered by my father are Murphys, Pitts, Turralls & Vaugans all living between Chepstow and Woolaston.