Forest of Dean FHT Forum - William BALDWIN and Amelia JONES

William BALDWIN and Amelia JONES (reply)

captncruise — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 10:53:48 +0000

Hi Bob

I once asked my father when our Jones family left Wales, he answered "There are more Joneses in England than Wales." So your Joneses went the other way?

I can't find any links with your Richard or David Jones with mine.
I have very little information on Maria Baldwin and was hoping someone might have something more positive.

I don't even know if I should be searching the Forest site as I am not sure how close Cirencester is to the Forest. The only link I have is that a Maria married to William Jones was fined in the Lyndley Court for cutting underbrush on the estate of Charles Bathurst, Lord Bledisloe. I also found a referance to a land dispute between a William Jones and Charles Bathurst.

Regards

Graham Jones

William BALDWIN and Amelia JONES (reply)

monnow13 — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:48:26 +0000

Hi Sylvia,
I now have my Amelia's marriage certificate and her father WAS John. The marriage was in 1864 and John was deceased. Witnesses were Jospeh and Fanny Pool. Also Amelia married in a Baptist Chapel which is consisitent with the "christening" record posted earlier. A real breakthrouh after many years of searching. I'm grateful for listers help. I would be interested to know more of your connection, can you share what you have found about John Jones and wife Margaret? You can email me off list if you prefer at penguin13@hotmail.co.uk.
Regards,
Molly

William BALDWIN m Amelia JONES 1864 (reply)

captncruise — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:00:46 +0000

MY 3X Grt Grandfather William Jones married Maria Baldwin both born Cirencester Gloucestershire 1803.
They later moved to Drayton Berkshire with their family. I don't have any information about Maria and would welcome any information on her ancestors.

I did find a reference to Maria who was married to a William Jones who was fined for cutting underbrush on the estate of Lord Bathurst. I believe this is in the Forest of Dean. Not sure which Parish records I should be searching for information on Maria or William.

Regards

William BALDWIN and Amelia JONES (reply)

sylviamorgan — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:25:57 +0000

Hi
Ameila was the daughter of my 2x great grandparents John and Margaret JONES Nd sister to James JONES , my great grandfather
Sylvia

William BALDWIN and Amelia JONES (reply)

bobwright — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:12:00 +0000

I have just found a "Baldwin" on my tree which starts and is centred on Lydbrook before my 2xgreatgrandfather's move across to Monmouthshire.

I have a daughter of Richard and Sarah Roberts nee Jones named Mary, baptised English Bicknor in 1812, who married a Thomas Baldwin on 21 December 1828.

My family is the Jones family starting with Richard Jones, 1834, then going back through Edward (1801), William (1760), John (1734) and Henry (no date known). I have used the Forest's web-site to search parish records and then collated with Census returns to find descendants and branches etc.

I also have an Amelia Jones, born Mynyddislwyn 1851 - died 1886, who is the daughter of David (1801-1882) and Hannah Jones nee Harris (1811-1875).

Do you think that there may be a connection between your Baldwins and mine?

Bob Wright

Margaret JONES Linton/Kempley -> Lydbrook (reply)

sylviamorgan — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:12:46 +0000

Hi Chris
THank you for the lookup.Not to worry as I am easily confused but I`m always glad of help so thank you again
Sylvia

Margaret JONES Linton/Kempley -> Lydbrook (reply)

ChrisW — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:29:54 +0000

Don't want to confuse you Sylvia! I just searched for marriages between a John Jones and a Margaret (surname unknown) and this was the only one that came up.

All the best
Christine

Margaret JONES Linton/Kempley -> Lydbrook (reply)

sylviamorgan — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:28:19 +0000

Thank you again for the info-much appreciated. The mystery is solved as one of the later messages says that John JONES married Margaret HARRIS wheras my John JONES married Margaret WILLIAMS
Thanks again
Sylvia

William BALDWIN m Amelia JONES 1864 (reply)

monnow13 — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:13:50 +0000

Lateral thinking - brilliant. This looks very promising. I will obtain a copy certificate. I know William's father so will know if its the right couple. Hopefully Amelia's father will be Thomas which will fit with the other information so helpfully provided.
Many thanks everyone.

William BALDWIN and Amelia JONES (reply)

monnow13 — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:10:01 +0000

Thanks for the tip - I had seen the members page but not read the instructions properly. I have now joined - thanks again.

William BALDWIN m Amelia JONES 1864 (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:46:18 +0000

Name: Amelia Jones
Name: William Balding
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bedwelty
County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 126

1871
William Baltwin abt 1841 Arson, Herefordshire, England Head Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Amelia Baltwin abt 1845 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Alice Baltwin abt 1870 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Ellen Baltwin abt 1869 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Mary Ann Baltwin abt 1866 Monmouth, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Trevethin, Monmouthshire
William Baltwin abt 1865 Nantyglo, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Trevethin, Monmouthshire

1881
William Baldwin abt 1841 Hereford, England Head Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Amelia Baldwin abt 1845 Gloucestershire, England Wife Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Alice Baldwin abt 1870 Monmouth, Wales Daughter Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Ellen Baldwin abt 1868 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Trevethin, Monmouthshire
James Baldwin abt 1880 Monmouth, Wales Son Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Maria Baldwin Monmouth, Wales Daughter Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Thomas Baldwin abt 1874 Monmouth, Wales Son Trevethin, Monmouthshire
William Baldwin abt 1865 Monmouth, Wales Son Trevethin, Monmouthshire

William BALDWIN and Amelia JONES (reply)

ChrisW — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:39:55 +0000

This might be a wild goose chase!

If this is the right Amelia Jones, with parents John & Margaret, the only marriage I have found on this site with those names is the following one:

record_id 28443
Entry No 39
Year 1841
Month August
Day 29
Groom Surname JONES
Groom Forename JOHN
Groom Age at Marriage 23
Groom Condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession Servant
Groom Residence Tidenham
Groom Father's Name Jones
Groom Father's Forename Thomas
Gromm Father's R or P Servant
Bride Surname HARRIS
Bride Forename MARGARET
Bride Age at Marriage 22
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride R or P Servant
Bride Residence Tidenham
Bride Father's Name Harris
Bride Father's Forename David
Bride Father's R or P Plasterer
Licence or Banns Banns
Signature or Mark both mark
Witness 1 John Tyler
Witness 2 Mark of Elizabeth Dobbs
Officiating Minister William Pulling Vicar
Event Type Marriage
Register Ref P333 in 1/8
Page No 20
Parish/Chapel Tidenham
Soundex Groom J520
Soundex Bride H620

Margaret JONES Linton/Kempley -> Lydbrook (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:13:53 +0000

1841 Camomile Green
Hannah Jones abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
John Jones abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Esther Jones abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Margret Jones abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
James Jones abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851 Lydbrook
Margaret Jones abt 1818 Sinton, Herefordshire, England Visitor West Dean, Gloucestershire Widow
Mary Ann Jones abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Jones abt 1818 Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Visitor West Dean Gloucestershire ?

1861 Anchorberry

Margaret Jones abt 1817 Kempley, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Isaac Jones abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Jones abt 1841 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Jones abt 1858 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Jones abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Jones abt 1853 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

William BALDWIN and Amelia JONES (reply)

sylviamorgan — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 05:15:28 +0000

Hi
I was interested in the baptism entry sent by Chris W for Amelia JONES as the parents were listed as John and Margaret JONES in Lydbrook / These were the names of my 2x great grandparents but I have no record of them having a daughter Amelia. The first child I found was James(my great grandfather) born Drybrook 1840 The next one I have is Mary born 1850. I have never seen Amelia listed with them but have wondered about the ten year gap
Sylvia

William BALDWIN and Amelia JONES (reply)

bertha — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 05:05:42 +0000

You ask if anyone has access to a searchable FOD database.

If you'd care to join the Members Area on this website, you will be able to search through thousands of Parish Records which have already been transcribed.

Just click on to 'Members Website' and follow the instructions.

Regards Bertha

William BALDWIN and Amelia JONES (reply)

monnow13 — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:46:25 +0000

No, I hadn't, that's really great. It looks very promising. Many thanks.

William BALDWIN and Amelia JONES (reply)

ChrisW — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:30:06 +0000

Have you come across this baptism yet?

record_id 77211
Entry No 430
Year 1845
Month June
Day 1
Parents Surname JONES
Child's Forename AMELIA
Father's Forename JOHN
Mother's Forename MARGARET
Place of Residence Lydbrook
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister W.C. Badger
Event Type Baptism
Register Ref P109 in 1/2
Page No 54
Parish/Chapel Drybrook

William BALDWIN and Amelia JONES

monnow13 — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:06:19 +0000

This couple are my brick wall and I would be thrilled if anyone could help. I have William's baptism in Aston Ingham 7 March 1842 and have traced his line back a few generations. However, I have been unable to find his marriage to Amelia JONES circa 1865 when their first child was born in Monmouthshire. Their third child was born in Lydbrook and although the family had settled in Monmouthshire Amelia gave Lydbrook as her place of birth in various census. I beleive Amelia would have been born c 1845 but I have been unable to find her in the 1851 or 1861 census - there are a couple of possibles but I really need to find the marriage to identify her father and hopefully her family in those census. I have tried the St Catherine indexes and FreeBMD without success. It may be that she and William never maried but if anyone has access to a searchable FoD database I would really appreciate a lookup.
Many thanks.