Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Jesse Morgan baptised 10.6.1860 Parkend UPDATE

Jesse Morgan baptised 10.6.1860 Parkend UPDATE (reply)

priest — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:30:49 +0000

Slowhands,
Please tell me you didn't just put in www.stantonironworks.co.uk???!! I spent a longtime yesterday looking for info on the iron works via google searches etc and local history sites but in all the searches I did this website never showed up! I never once thought of just trying the web address above.
Have got someway with finding out where Jesse is buried and waiting confirmation from the records office in Derby. The records office did hold records for the iron works but nothing of a personal nature just accounts etc so this new site I am sure will be able to help further.
Thanks again, can always rely on someone to come up trumps!
Alison

Jesse Morgan baptised 10.6.1860 Parkend UPDATE (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:15:41 +0000

Given the registration dist of Shardlow , my guess is he was living south of Ilkeston toward Derby or Long Eaton

keep you eyes peeled for Stanton and Staveley pipes - large water pipes , gas pipes etc

another long shot finds the spot !

http://www.stantonironworks.co.uk/

At its peak, Stanton Ironworks near Ilkeston employed 12,000 and was one of Derbyshire's
leading manufacturing centres.

For 150 years, Stanton Ironworks was the life-blood of the Ilkeston area, employing thousands of people
and generations of the same families.

Sources in Derbyshire (reply)

priest — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:08:10 +0000

Chris,
Thanks very much, lots to keep me busy!
Alison

Sources in Derbyshire (reply)

ChrisW — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:08:53 +0000

Derbyshire County Council www.derbyshire.gov.uk

Family history resources

Sources connected with major events

Family historians usually want to find out all they can about the major events in their ancestors' lives. Information about births, marriages and deaths can be found in Derbyshire Local Studies Library.

Here is a list of the most important resources we have to help you.

Civil Registration Indexes to Births, Marriages, Deaths: 1837-2001

Overseas Indexes, including Boer War, World War I and World War II deaths. We have a complete set of these.

Boyds Marriage Index, Derbyshire

Published Parish Register copies and indexes: including the Phillimore series for Derbyshire and some for surrounding counties.

Lambeth Palace Marriage Licence Indexes, 1543-1850.

A few Nonconformist and Roman Catholic Registers.

Lists of Strays. These are Derbyshire people who got born, married or died away from their home parish.

Monumental Inscriptions from churchyards and cemeteries: Derbyshire plus surrounding counties, particularly Nottinghamshire and Cheshire.

Wills indexes and copies.

Mining Deaths: 1850 to 1914 (indexes to HM Inspectors of Mines reports)

Newspapers - unindexed except for Derbyshire Times: Births, Marriages, Deaths indexed from 1981 onward and 1880 to 1894, 1900 to 1914, 1918 to 1919

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Ilkeston & District Local History Society www.ilkestonhistory.org.uk

Lists churches in the area.

1881 Census living at Stanley
Local Church St Andrew's (photo on their site)

St.Bartholomew - Hallam Fields Road.
Designed by Currey of Derby in the Early English style, St.Bartholomews was built in 1895 to serve the needs of some 1000 people living at Hallam Fields, most of who worked at the Stanton Iron Works. Its predecessor had been a temporary iron church, built in 1880 and later re-erected at Station Road.
The church was consecrated in 1896 by the Bishop Suffragan of Derby and served the community until its closure in 1969.
(Photograph - Stephen Flinders)

Jesse Morgan baptised 10.6.1860 Parkend UPDATE (reply)

priest — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:56:37 +0000

I now have the death certificate for Jesse Morgan. He died on the 1st December, 1880 at Stanton Iron Works, Derbyshire where he was employed as an engine shunter. Cause of death is shown as 'accidentally killed by being run over by an engine at the Stanton Iron Works'. Certificate issued by the Coroner for Derby following an inquest on the 3rd December, 1880.
I have found out that the Derbyshire records office hold details of the Stanton Iron Works Company and hope to get some further details from them.
Now looking for a local history group or forum who cover that area to see if I could track down where he is buried. Has anyone any ideas??
A sad end to a young life.
Thanks for all your help
Alison

Edmund MORGAN m Charlotte HYETT 1833 (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:46:39 +0000

Year: 1833
Month: Oct
Day: 28

Groom Surname: MORGAN
Groom Forenames: Edmund
Groom Age at Marriage:
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession:
Groom Residence: Newland
Groom Father's Surname:
Groom Father's Forenames:
Groom Father's Rank or Profession:

Bride Surname: HYETT
Bride Forenames: Charlotte
Bride Age at Marriage:
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Bride Father's Surname:
Bride Father's Forenames:
Bride Father's Rank or Profession:

Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: He marks she signs
Witness 1: Richard Morgan
Witness 2: Elisa Morgan
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: Henry W Sheppard Curate
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P227 IN 1/11
Page No: 263
Parish_Chapel: Newland

Edmund MORGAN 1817 Coleford (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:19:22 +0000

Year: 1817
Month: Nov
Day: 2
Parents Surname: MORGAN
Child Forenames: Edmund
Father's Forenames: William
Mother's Forenames: Anne
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Col[e]ford
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating Minister: Tho[ma]s Thomas
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P93 IN 1/4
Page No: 28
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

Edmund MORGAN 1858 Parkend /Moseley -cousin ?? (reply)

priest — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:02:32 +0000

Slowhands,
OOPS!! Obvious now you point it out,especially as he was actually a she! Have now sent off for certificate, will let you know result but I think the odds are more for than against! Learning every day!!!
Thanks,
Alison.

Edmund MORGAN 1858 Parkend /Moseley -cousin ?? (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:12:20 +0000

I think "she" had died by 1871 , ruled out before my speculation :-)

Name: Jessie Morgan
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Year of Registration: 1866
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 5
District: Stone
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 31

1881 Shardlow Registration District
Edmund Morgan abt 1859 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Boarder Stanley, Derbyshire
James Morgan abt 1861 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Boarder Stanley, Derbyshire

1871
George Morgan abt 1836 South Wales, Abersuckam Head Polesworth, Warwickshire
Mary Ann Morgan abt 1836 Oldcroft, Gloucestershire, England Wife Polesworth, Warwickshire
Albert Morgan abt 1864 Wilnecote, Warwickshire, England Son Polesworth, Warwickshire
Arthur Morgan abt 1868 Polesworth, Warwickshire, England Son Polesworth, Warwickshire
Charlotte Morgan abt 1857 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Polesworth, Warwickshire
David Morgan abt 1870 Polesworth, Warwickshire, England Son Polesworth, Warwickshire
Edmund Morgan abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Polesworth, Warwickshire
James Morgan abt 1861 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Polesworth, Warwickshire
Mary A Morgan abt 1866 Polesworth, Warwickshire, England Daughter Polesworth, Warwickshire
Samuel Morgan abt 1862 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Polesworth, Warwickshire
William Morgan abt 1871 Polesworth, Warwickshire, England Son Polesworth, Warwickshire

1861
George Morgan abt 1836 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Morgan abt 1836 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Charlott Morgan abt 1857 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Edmund Morgan abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Morgan abt 1861 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

looks like -

Year: 1858
Month: Apr
Day: 25
Parents Surname: MORGAN
Child Forenames: Edmund
Father's Forenames: George
Mother's Forenames: Mary Ann
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Moseley
Occupation: Collier
Officiating Minister: Jno[John] Jos[ep]h Ebsworth Incumbent
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda: son of
Notes:
Register Reference: P245 IN 1/12
Page No: 53
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

Year: 1853
Month: Dec
Day: 20

Groom Surname: MORGAN
Groom Forenames: George
Groom Age at Marriage: 18
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession: Collier
Groom Residence: Moseley Green
Groom Father's Surname: Morgan
Groom Father's Forenames: Edmund
Groom Father's Rank or Profession: Collier

Bride Surname: BIRT
Bride Forenames: Mary Ann
Bride Age at Marriage: 17
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession: [not stated]
Bride Residence: Moseley Green
Bride Father's Surname: Birt
Bride Father's Forenames: James
Bride Father's Rank or Profession: Labourer

Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: both mark
Witness 1: Mark of Thomas Pasey
Witness 2: Mark of Margaret Birt
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: Henry Poole
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P145 IN 1/20
Page No: 151
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

1851
Edmund Morgan abt 1814 Viney Hil; East Dean Head West Dean,
Charlotte Morgan abt 1817 Viney Hill; East Dean Wife West Dean,
Charlotte Morgan abt 1842 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean,
Edmund Morgan abt 1844 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean,
Eliza Morgan abt 1844 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean,
George Morgan abt 1837 Aber, Monmouthshire, Wales Son West Dean,
Richards Jones abt 1837 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Visitor West Dean,

1841
Edmund Morgan abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Charlotte Morgan abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Eliza Morgan abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
George Morgan abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Morgan abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Jesse MORGAN 1860 Parkend - speculation (reply)

priest — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:05:55 +0000

Slowhands,
I had found this possible death. However put off a bit as there is another Jesse Morgan born in 1860 but much nearer to Shardlow than my Jesse. Thought it was more likely to be his death but will probably have to get a death certificate to confirm one way or another. Still trying to rule out the other Jesse (born in Stone believed Staffs) by finding him alive after 1880!
Had hoped to find Jesse alive and kicking somewhere in the Forest!
Thanks again,
Alison

Jesse MORGAN 1860 Parkend - speculation (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:51:59 +0000

If he moved away this may be his death......

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/shardlow.html
coal mines nearby !

Name: Jesse Morgan
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 20
District: Shardlow
County: Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 297

1871
John Morgan abt 1811 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Morgan abt 1810 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Jesse Morgan abt 1861 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1861
John Morgan abt 1811 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Morgan abt 1817 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elbert Morgan abt 1841 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Jessie Morgan abt 1860 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Joseph Morgan abt 1842 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Stepson West Dean, Gloucestershire

1851 Parkhill ?
John Morgan abt 1811 Coleford; Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Morgan abt 1839 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Morgan abt 1847 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Morgan abt 1841 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Joseph Morgan abt 1843 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Morgan abt 1777 Bream Newland, Gloucestershire, England Mother West Dean, Gloucestershire

1841 ?
John Morgan abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Hannah Morgan abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Morgan abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
John Morgan abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Year: 1837
Month: Sep
Day: 21
Groom Surname: MORGAN
Groom Forenames: John
Groom Age at Marriage: of full age
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession: Miner
Groom Residence: Whitecroft
Groom Father's Surname: Morgan
Groom Father's Forenames: Isaac
Groom Father's Rank or Profession: Collier

Bride Surname: DERBY
Bride Forenames: Hannah
Bride Age at Marriage: of full age
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession: none stated
Bride Residence: Hewelsfield
Bride Father's Surname: Derby
Bride Father's Forenames: William
Bride Father's Rank or Profession: Labourer

Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: Both mark
Witness 1: Mark of George Kear
Witness 2: Emma Darby
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: George Ridout Vicar
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes: Derby/Darby
Register Reference: P227 IN 1/12
Page No: 5
Parish_Chapel: Newland

Jesse MORGAN baptised 10.6.1860 Parkend

priest — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:06:10 +0000

Can anyone help find further information on Jesse Morgan?
Born 1860 to Father John Morgan b abt 1811 and Mother Mary Morgan born 1817.
1861 census shows Jesse aged 8 months living in Bream Woodside with parents and various relatives including children from Mary's first marriage to William Preest.
Mary Morgan dies in 1865 and John Morgan marries Hannah Davis in 1867.
1871 census shows Jesse aged 10 living with John and Hannah in Yorkley.
After this census I can find nothing further. Hannah is shown living alone in the 1881 census (John has presumably died) and she dies in 1890.
Any help to trace Jesse after 1871 would be much appreciated.
Alison