Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Moses HALE (father of John late 1870 ) Blacksmith

Moses HALE (father of John late 1870 ) Blacksmith (reply)

cmwilce1988 — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:21:34 +0000

This lead is still unbelieveably hard. Moses Hale 1838 and Emma King don't appear to have any children baptised and there's four Moses Hale's who got married in a 20 years stretch. I'm still struggling to find John Hale, but he is definately the My great grandfather and married Alice Smith.

Record_ID: 13088
Entry_Number: 243
Year: 1861
Month: Apr
Day: 8
Grooms_Surname: HALE
Grooms_Forenames: Moses
Grooms_Age: 23
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Nailer
Grooms_Residence: Berry Hill
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Hale
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Moulder
Brides_Surname: KING
Brides_Forenames: Emma
Brides_Age: 21
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Berry Hill
Brides_Fathers_Surname: King
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Shoemaker
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: C.Stockham
Witness_2: Mark of Sarah Morse
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: George Ridout Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/13
Page_Number: 122
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex_Groom: H400
Soundex_Bride: K520

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Record_ID: 13524
Entry_Number: 53
Year: 1841
Month: Nov
Day: 20
Grooms_Surname: HALE
Grooms_Forenames: Moses
Grooms_Age: Full age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: collier
Grooms_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: deceased
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [no entry]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: GAGG
Brides_Forenames: Mary Ann
Brides_Age: full age
Brides_Condition: Widow
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname: deceased
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both sign
Witness_1: Richard Matthews
Witness_2: mark of Sybil Hale
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: C. G. Crawley
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Hundred of St Briavels centred in box
Register_Reference: P228 IN 1/13
Page_Number: 27
Parish_Chapel: Newnham
Soundex_Groom: H400
Soundex_Bride: G200

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Record_ID: 14450
Entry_Number: 239
Year: 1852
Month: Jan
Day: 4
Grooms_Surname: HALE
Grooms_Forenames: Moses
Grooms_Age: 22
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Lane End
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Hale
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Moses
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: DAVIES
Brides_Forenames: Susan Ann
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Lane End
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Davies
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: he marks she signs
Witness_1: Mark of Samuel Horrobin
Witness_2: Mark of Mary Hale
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Poole
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/20
Page_Number: 120
Parish_Chapel: Parkend
Soundex_Groom: H400
Soundex_Bride: D120

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Record_ID: 14969
Entry_Number: 260
Year: 1873
Month: Jan
Day: 21
Grooms_Surname: HALE
Grooms_Forenames: Moses
Grooms_Age: 22
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Lane End
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Hale
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: FOX
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age: 21
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Lane End
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Fox
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: George
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Carpenter
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both mark
Witness_1: Henry Gunter
Witness_2: Frances Powell
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Jo[hn] Jo[seph] Elsworth Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/21
Page_Number: 130
Parish_Chapel: Parkend
Soundex_Groom: H400
Soundex_Bride: F200

Moses HALE (father of John late 1870 ) Blacksmith (reply)

cmwilce1988 — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:44:35 +0000

Hi thankyou, I had put Emma King down as a possibility and shall continue with this lead as the information you have provided seems very probable. thankyou again for your efforts.

Moses HALE (father of John late 1870 ) Blacksmith (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:26:17 +0000

ISABELLA BADGER

Marriages:
Spouse: JOHN AILE
Marriage: 10 JUL 1828 Bedwelty, Monmouth, England
Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M020092 1696 - 1829 0104847 Film NONE
Sheet:

ROSANNA HALE
Event(s):
Birth: 12 NOV 1831
Christening: 26 DEC 1831 Ynysgon Presbyterian, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
Parents:
Father: JOHN HALE
Mother: ISABELLA
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C103061 1786 - 1837 0813542 (RG4 4090) Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Brother Noah - Moses "missing" at mo !

Year: 1836
Month: Dec
Day: 21
Parents Surname: HALE
Child Forenames: Noah
Father's Forenames: John
Mother's Forenames: Isabella
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Forest of Dean
Occupation: Nailer
Officiating Minister: George Roberts BA Perpet: Curate
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P93 IN 1/5
Page No: 20
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

Then a remarriage for mother

Year: 1841
Month: Apr
Day: 19

Groom Surname: WEBB
Groom Forenames: John
Groom Age at Marriage: Full
Groom condition: Batchelor [s
Groom Rank or Profession: Nailor [sic]
Groom Residence: Coleford Lane's End
Groom Father's Surname: Webb
Groom Father's Forenames: W[illia]m.
Groom Father's Rank or Profession: Sawyer

Bride Surname: HALE
Bride Forenames: Isabella
Bride Age at Marriage: Full
Bride Condition: Widow
Bride Rank or Profession: [not stated]
Bride Residence: Coleford Lane's End
Bride Father's Surname: Badges
Bride Father's Forenames: W[illia]m.
Bride Father's Rank or Profession: Nailor [sic]

Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns: [not stated]
Signature or Mark: Both sign
Witness 1: Mary Ann [illegible]
Witness 2: Peter Darby
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: Frederick Stonhouse Curate
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P175 IN 1/7
Page No: 17
Parish_Chapel: Hewelsfield

1841 Speedwell
John Webb abt 1821 Newland, Gloucestershire
Isabella Webb abt 1816 Newland, Gloucestershire
Hannah Habe abt 1829 Newland, Gloucestershire
James Habe abt 1834 Newland, Gloucestershire
Rossinna Habe abt 1831 Newland, Gloucestershire
Moses Hale abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Noah Hale abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
William Hell abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire

1851 Berry Hill
John Webb abt 1818 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire Master Nailor
Isabella Webb abt 1811 Canterbury Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Charles Webb abt 1847 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
John Webb abt 1850 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Rosannah Hale abt 1832 Ther, Glamorgan, Wales Stepdaughter Newland, Gloucestershire
James Hale abt 1835 Ther, Glamorgan, Wales Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Moses Hale abt 1839 Ther, Glamorgan, Wales Son Newland, Gloucestershire

1861
John Webb abt 1818 Wooten Under Age, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland,
Isabella Webb J abt 1811 Canterbury, Kent, England Wife Newland,
CHarles Webb abt 1847 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland,
John Webb abt 1850 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland,
William Webb abt 1815 Wootten Under Age, Gloucestershire, England Brother Newland,
Moses Hale abt 1838 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Stepson Newland,

Year: 1861
Month: Apr
Day: 8

Groom Surname: HALE
Groom Forenames: Moses
Groom Age at Marriage: 23
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession: Nailer
Groom Residence: Berry Hill
Groom Father's Surname: Hale
Groom Father's Forenames: John
Groom Father's Rank or Profession: Moulder

Bride Surname: KING
Bride Forenames: Emma
Bride Age at Marriage: 21
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession: [not stated]
Bride Residence: Berry Hill
Bride Father's Surname: King
Bride Father's Forenames: Henry
Bride Father's Rank or Profession: Shoemaker

Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: Both sign
Witness 1: C.Stockham
Witness 2: Mark of Sarah Morse
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: George Ridout Vicar
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P227 IN 1/13
Page No: 122
Parish_Chapel: Newland

1871 Berry Hill
Moses Hale 32
Emma Hale 30
Elizabeth Hale 1
John Hale 4 months
Julia Hale 9
Sarah J Hale 7

1881 Barracks
Moses Hale abt 1841 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Blacksmith
Emma Hale abt 1843 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean,
Elizabeth Hale abt 1868 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean,
Emma Hale abt 1879 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean,
John Hale abt 1870 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, G
Moses Hale abt 1875 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean,
William Hale abt 1872 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean,

1891 Broadwell Lane End
Emma Hale abt 1843 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Widow
Amos Jones West Dean, Gloucestershire [STRUCK OUT]
Moses G Hale abt 1880 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean,
George E Hale abt 1882 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean,
Bertha M Hale abt 1888 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean,

1901
Emma Hale abt 1840 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Patient Barnwood

JOHN HALE ABT 1871 (reply)

ChrisW — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:03:49 +0000

I see what you mean!

Possible Birth Registration for John:

December 1870
Hale John Monmouth 11a 28

JOHN HALE ABT 1871

cmwilce1988 — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:39:14 +0000

Hi, I know for definate that this is my Great grandad. however i have no idea who his father is. i thought maybe it was a moses, but i can't seem to find a john hale baptised with the father moses and if i do then the date is wrong. please can someone help me to find out who he is as it is driving me crazy. thanks cat

Record_ID: 16815
Entry Number: 1112
Year: 1891
Month: Oct
Day: 12
Groom Surname: HALE
Groom Forenames: John
Groom Age at Marriage: 20
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession: Collier
Groom Residence: Ruardean
Groom Father's Surname: Hale
Groom Father's Forenames: Moses
Groom Father's Rank or Profession: Blacksmith
Bride Surname: SMITH
Bride Forenames: Alice
Bride Age at Marriage: 17
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: Ruardean
Bride Father's Surname: Smith
Bride Father's Forenames: Charles
Bride Father's Rank or Profession: Collier
Licence or Banns: [not stated]
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: He marks she signs
Witness 1: Mark of William Hale
Witness 2: Ellen Smith
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: E Bailey-Churchill
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P275 IN 1/10
Page No: 99
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Soundex Groom: H400
Soundex Bride: S530