Forest of Dean FHT Forum - John Watkins m Mary Bray 1811 Longhope

John Watkins m Mary Bray 1811 Longhope (reply)

Lincolnian — Fri, 09 May 2008 09:42:29 +0000

No need for apologies; you can guarantee that whatever you've wrong, so has everyone else, thanks for getting involved, Keep smiling

John Watkins m Mary Bray 1811 Longhope (reply)

ChrisW — Fri, 09 May 2008 02:47:04 +0000

Whoops! That would be because I was getting befuddled looking for Thomas & John at the same time. A thousand apologies!

Cross-eyed Chris

John Watkins m Mary Bray 1811 Longhope (reply)

Lincolnian — Thu, 08 May 2008 12:36:59 +0000

Thanks again Chris but I have to point out that my GGGreat grandad John WATKINS was not born until 1820 so Mary Bray does not come into this equasion, however,
I am attracted to your 3rd option re Thomas W b1773 Bream; I really do think this is the chap I've been looking for, thank you very much

John WATKINS c1820/1 Bream Meend (reply)

Lincolnian — Thu, 08 May 2008 10:59:13 +0000

Thank you Slowhands; do you ever sleep?

John Watkins c1820/1 Bream (reply)

Lincolnian — Thu, 08 May 2008 09:50:21 +0000

I have noticed that the name KEAR is rather prolific in that neck of the woods,but please don't be sorry; it's helpful people like you & Slowhands
that make this site what it is, not forgetting Dave.

John Watkins m Mary Bray 1811 Longhope (reply)

ChrisW — Thu, 08 May 2008 03:49:32 +0000

Thanks Slowhands - that helped a lot! Thomas was older than I expected, and the marriage earlier than I expected. I think it is this one?

Record_ID: 9385
Entry Number: 186
Year: 1811
Month: May
Day: 4
Groom Surname: WATKINS
Groom Forenames: John
Groom Age at Marriage:
Groom condition:
Groom Rank or Profession:
Groom Residence: Longhope
Groom Father's Surname:
Groom Father's Forenames:
Groom Father's Rank or Profession:
Bride Surname: BRAY
Bride Forenames: Mary
Bride Age at Marriage:
Bride Condition:
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: Longhope
Bride Father's Surname:
Bride Father's Forenames:
Bride Father's Rank or Profession:
Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: They both mark
Witness 1: William Tiney [?]
Witness 2: Ann Jenerher [?]
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: John Williams Curate
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P206 IN 1/5
Page No: 54
Parish_Chapel: Longhope
Soundex Groom: W325
Soundex Bride: B600

Possible baptism for Thomas?

Record_ID: 225714
Entry Number:
Year: 1778
Month: Sep
Day: 20
Parents Surname: WATKINS
Child Forenames: Thomas
Father's Forenames: Thomas
Mother's Forenames: Eunice
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating Minister: Ja[me]s Edwards Vicar
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P83 IN 1/1
Page No: 141
Parish_Chapel: Churcham
Soundex: W325

Parents marriage:

Record_ID: 49010
Entry Number:
Year: 1778
Month: Feb
Day: 11
Groom Surname: WATKINS
Groom Forenames: Thomas
Groom Age at Marriage:
Groom condition: [not stated]
Groom Rank or Profession:
Groom Residence: Of this Parish
Groom Father's Surname:
Groom Father's Forenames:
Groom Father's Rank or Profession:
Bride Surname: TOMMY
Bride Forenames: Eunice
Bride Age at Marriage:
Bride Condition: [not stated]
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: Of this Parish
Bride Father's Surname:
Bride Father's Forenames:
Bride Father's Rank or Profession:
Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns: January 4th 11th
Signature or Mark: He signs she marks
Witness 1: The mark of Ann Thomas
Witness 2: Joseph Simmons
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: Tho[ma]s Parker Officiating Minister
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes: The record of the banns are after the record of the marriage and say The Banns of Marriage between the aforesaid Thomas Watkins and Eunice Tommy were published three several Sundays viz January 4th 11th & 18th 1778 by me Tho[ma]s Parker Officiating Minist
Register Reference: P83 IN 1/3
Page No: 40
Parish_Chapel: Churcham
Soundex Groom: W325
Soundex Bride: T500

But there is also this baptism:

Record_ID: 86349
Entry Number: 266
Year: 1773
Month: Jul
Day: 18
Parents Surname: WATKINS
Child Forenames: Thomas
Father's Forenames: William
Mother's Forenames: Jane
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating Minister:
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda: son of
Notes:
Register Reference: P57 IN 1/1
Page No: 51
Parish_Chapel: Bream
Soundex: W325

John WATKINS c1820/1 Bream Meend (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 08 May 2008 02:15:05 +0000

1841 nr Oakwood
Thomas Watkins 1776 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Watkins 1781 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Jane Watkins 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
John Watkins 1821 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851 Bream Meend
Thomas Watkins abt 1774 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Watkins abt 1778 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire

John Watkins c1820/1 Bream (reply)

ChrisW — Thu, 08 May 2008 01:49:32 +0000

There may be a clue in his name - John KEAR Watkins. I haven't got time to look at the moment sorry!

Regards
Chris

John Watkins c1820 Bream (reply)

Lincolnian — Wed, 07 May 2008 13:08:07 +0000

Thank you Chris; I did forget to say that I'm trying to find Where Thomas was born & Mary who? did he marry.

John Watkins c1820 Bream (reply)

ChrisW — Wed, 07 May 2008 12:55:33 +0000

Record_ID: 192252
Entry Number: 276
Year: 1820
Month: Oct
Day: 15
Parents Surname: WATKINS
Child Forenames: John Kear
Father's Forenames: Thomas
Mother's Forenames: Mary
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Bream
Occupation: Farmer
Officiating Minister: Hen. G. Poole Minister
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P57 IN 1/2
Page No: 35
Parish_Chapel: Bream
Soundex: W325

John WATKINS c1820/1 Bream

Lincolnian — Wed, 07 May 2008 12:43:00 +0000

I'm looking for the parents of John Watkins b Bream 1820/1, his marriage certificate gives his father as Thomas Watkins; the 1851 census has a Thomas & Mary Watkins living next door but, I can't find a connection anywhere; can
anyone offer any help please?
Lincolnian.