Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Lydia WHEELER 1814 Walford

Lydia WHEELER 1814 Walford (reply)

nzer1225 — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:32:19 +0000

Hello,

Joseph MARSHALL and his wife Sarah WHEELER are my husband's gt-gt-gt-grandparents. On the 1861 Wales census they are resident in Matherne, and Sarah gives her birthplace as Norton, Gloucs. There is a Sarah WHEELER baptised 1802 in Norton, on the IGI, (see below). I'm interested to know why you think Sarah is the daughter of Thomas and Frances?

Kind regards,
N.

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SARAH WHEELER Pedigree
Female

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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 04 APR 1802 Norton, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:

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Parents:
Father: RICHARD WHEELER Family
Mother: MARY

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C030611 1755 - 1812 0425480 Film 6911778 Film

Sheet: 00

Lydia WHEELER 1814 Walford (reply)

MichaelM — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:01:09 +0000

Thank you all for your input in helping me in this problem, all contributions have been taken on board.

MichaelM

Lydia WHEELER 1814 Walford (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:10:35 +0000

Year: 1814
Month: Apr
Day: 11
Parents_Surname: WHEELER
Child_Forenames: Lydia
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Frances
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coughton Mill
Occupation: Miller &c
Officiating_Minister: T.D. Fosbrooke Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AO19/4
Page_Number: 5
Parish_Chapel: Walford

Eleanor WHEELER 1815 Bridstow (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:02:45 +0000

ELEANOR WHEELER
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 27 DEC 1815 Bridstow, Hereford, England
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Parents:
Father: THOMAS WHEELER
Mother: FRANCES
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C138621 1580 - 1875 0992638 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Frances WHEELER 1777( ish) - 1842 (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:56:44 +0000

1841 Broad St Ross
Frances Wheeler abt 1777 Herefordshire, England Ross, Herefordshire Widow
Elenor Wheeler abt 1807 Herefordshire, England Ross, Herefordshire Flour Dealer

death ?
Name: Frances Wheeler
Year of Registration: 1842
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 26
Page: 166

Coughton Mill in Walford (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:14:54 +0000

There were at least 3 mills in Walford Parish

SMR No Site name Parish NGR Period / Site type

10979 Mill, NW of Leys Hill Walford SO 5854 1979 18TH CENTURY / MILL
POST MEDIEVAL / CORN MILL

10996 Corn Mill, E of Coughton Farm Walford SO 6020 2119 POST MEDIEVAL / CIDER MILL
16TH CENTURY / MILL

10997 Coughton Mill Walford SO 6018 2112 POST MEDIEVAL / MILL

In Littleburys Trade Direcory for 1876
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/Walford/Littlebury1876.html
Bussell & Pike, millers and corn mrchnts.,Coughton mill;

1851 Coughton Mill Walford
William Howell abt 1809 Walford, Herefordshire, England Head Walford, Herefordshire
Sarah Howell abt 1808 Walford, Herefordshire, England Wife Walford, Herefordshire
Ann Jane Howell abt 1840 Walford, Herefordshire, England Daughter Walford, Herefordshire
Thomas Howell abt 1838 Walford, Herefordshire, England Son Walford, Herefordshire
William Howell abt 1835 Walford, Herefordshire, England Son Walford, Herefordshire

1841 Coughton Mill Walford
Wm Nowell abt 1811 Herefordshire, England Walford, Herefordshire
Sarah Nowell abt 1811 Herefordshire, England Walford, Herefordshire
Jane Nowell abt 1840 Herefordshire, England Walford, Herefordshire
Thos Nowell abt 1838 Herefordshire, England Walford, Herefordshire
Wm Nowell abt 1835 Herefordshire, England Walford, Herefordshire

http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
co-ords 360180 221120
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Sarah Wheeler bap. 1813 Walford (reply)

MichaelM — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:15:25 +0000

Thank you for your kind input but I have looked through your information and am still at a loss, as stated in Record ID 161279, Thomas & Frances Wheeler Resided at Coughton Mill in Walford, there is no information on the mill that I can find, if the mill was owned by the Wheeler family as seems to be the reference in the statement Miller & Co in occupation then there should be some sort of record to the fact.
The information in Record ID 161279 and Record ID 13394. match the state of the exploration that I have reached so far by using the parish records.
Also searching through the Parish Records I cannot find any mention of Sarah's Father or Mother. did they move into the area to work?

Sarah Wheeler bap. 1813 Walford (reply)

ChrisW — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 05:13:15 +0000

For info:

Record_ID: 161279
Entry_Number: 12
Year: 1813
Month: Apr
Day: 2
Parents_Surname: WHEELER
Child_Forenames: Sarah
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Frances
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coughton Mill in Walford
Occupation: Miller &c
Officiating_Minister: T.D. Fosbrooke Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AO19/4
Page_Number: 2
Parish_Chapel: Walford
Soundex: W460

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The marriage to which you refer:

Record_ID: 13394
Entry_Number: 65
Year: 1823
Month: Nov
Day: 3
Grooms_Surname: MARSHALL
Grooms_Forenames: Joseph
Grooms_Age: [not stated]
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: [not stated]
Grooms_Residence: of this parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Surname: WOOLES OR WH[ILLRGIBLE]LER
Brides_Forenames: Sarah
Brides_Age: [not stated]
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: of this parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: Thomas Marshall
Witness_2: Sarah
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: with the consent of friends
Notes:
Register_Reference: P228 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 22
Parish_Chapel: Newnham
Soundex_Groom: M624
Soundex_Bride: W426
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I think they mean this one as the bride:

Record_ID: 146297
Entry_Number: 0
Year: 1806
Month: Feb
Day: 9
Parents_Surname: WOOLES
Child_Forenames: Sarah
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Hester
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: [not stated]
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: [not stated]
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: born Jan[ua]ry 9 1806
Notes:
Register_Reference: P228 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 15
Parish_Chapel: Newnham
Soundex: W420

Coughton Mill in Walford

MichaelM — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 04:39:54 +0000

I have found a Thomas Wheeler who was a miller at Coughton Mill in Walford 1813, His daughter Sarah Married my ancestor Joseph Marshall in 1823 at Newnham.
I am trying to find information about Sarah's Parents, Thomas and Frances Wheeler.