Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Elizabeth Susan GITTINGS - B 1887 Staunton - Missing !

Elizabeth Susan GITTINGS - B 1887 Staunton - Missing ! (reply)

unknown — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:59:08 +0000

Thank you both Jeff & mrsbruso for your comments.

As you have stated even today we complain about some names we have been given.

Can we possibly imagine what our ancestors would be thinking if they could see us delving into their past some two hundred years later.

Perhaps in 2200 we may be able to print out a picture/video straight from our human memory bank.

No doubt tapping messages on a computer will be stone age technology.

To man and the future...

Forest

Elizabeth Susan GITTINGS - B 1887 Staunton - Missing ! (reply)

mrsbruso — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 01:32:27 +0000

Regarding the apparent change of names: My great uncle, always referred to amongst the family as "Uncle Jim" was actually Thomas James . . . and my grandfather, Charles George, mostly known as "Charlie", is recorded as George in the 1891 census. Why -- who knows, although his newly minted stepfather giving the names as head of household might possibly have had something to do with it. Additionally, when my grandmother was travelling, she missed a flight. My uncle asked the airline to find his mother, "Nellie", and they couldn't find any record of her. It was only when he called my mother to report her missing that she told him her travel documents listed her actual first name, which was Patience! And my brother, christened Leo, is known to all and sundry as "Bill". I don't think any of our cousins are aware that his first name is not actually William.

Elizabeth Susan GITTINGS - B 1887 Staunton - Missing ! (reply)

Jefff — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:43:58 +0000

Hi Forest,
as I'm sure you know this site's PRs carry Baptism Records for 97 different Gittings', including that of my Aunt Hilda Mary Gittings b1911. However only TWO of these were recorded at Staunton nr Newent, as below:

Record_ID: 251173
Entry_Number: 121
Year: 1890
Month: Mar
Day: 21
Parents_Surname: GITTINGS
Child_Forenames: Susanne Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Fanny
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Staunton
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: J W Hayes Off Minister
Event: C
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 16
Parish_Chapel: Staunton near Newent
Soundex: G352

Record_ID: 251185
Entry_Number: 133
Year: 1891
Month: Oct
Day: 18
Parents_Surname: GITTINGS
Child_Forenames: Ada Kate
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Fanny
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Staunton
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: T Hayes
Event: C
Memoranda: St Lukes Day
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 17
Parish_Chapel: Staunton near Newent
Soundex: G352

It seems highly unlikely to me that these are not your family. Clearly it seems the girl's wern't overkeen on their baptised first names, but that's hardly unusual, indeed census's sometimes record a person's nickname nevermind precise baptism names, it all depends what was being used by the family at the time. Similarly an error of a few years comparing actual vs census ages is not unusual, this is quite common for all sorts of reasons.

Their parents' marriage record from this site is:
Record_ID: 22510
Entry_Number: 55
Year: 1875
Month: May
Day: 17
Grooms_Surname: GITTINGS
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age: 22
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Newent
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Gittings
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: WARNER
Brides_Forenames: Fanny
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Newent
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Warner
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: George
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: both mark
Witness_1: Mark of John Spenser
Witness_2: Mark of Emma Spenser
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: J Nosworthy Off Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P225 IN 1/33
Page_Number: 28
Parish_Chapel: Newent
Soundex_Groom: G352
Soundex_Bride: W656

I hope this helps.

Elizabeth Susan GITTINGS - B 1887 Staunton - Missing ! (reply)

unknown — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:23:21 +0000

Hi M P Griffiths

Re last entry -
the 1901 Census shows Elizabeth aged 14 which is correct from 1887.
Also shows her family and young sister Kate, and correct age, all residing at Barn Lane, Corse, Nr Glos. Which seems to confirm the correct line. Have no knowledge in family of a Susanne.

Thanks Forest

Elizabeth Susan GITTINGS - B 1887 Staunton - Missing ! (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:25:51 +0000

If I search the 1911 census

There is an Elizabeth Susan GITTINGS, born Staunton 1888 age 23, living in Upton on Severn - not sure how to access this via Ancestry - and looking at FOD records this could be her.

Christening at Staunton Near Newent

Susanne Elizabeth GITTINGS, 21 march 1890 parents John & Fanny

and death

born 1887 of Elizabeth S GITTINGS - J/F/M Qtr 1963 age 76, Gloucester Rural

Elizabeth "Lizzy" GITTINGS - B 1887 Staunton - Missing ! (reply)

unknown — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:02:00 +0000

Thank you Slowhands/MP Griffiths for your help.
Having checked ages it seems the Hereford line is the correct one.
Forest.

Elizabeth "Lizzy" GITTINGS - B 1887 Staunton - Missing ! (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:31:55 +0000

? Freebdm

Death: O/N/D Qtr 1904, Hereford District

Elizabeth GITTINGS, age 18

Elizabeth "Lizzy" GITTINGS - B 1887- (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:56:57 +0000

1911 Candidate
DAVIES ELIZABETH F 1887 24 Weobley Herefordshire born Staunton

Marriage candidate

Name: Lizzie Elizabeth Gittins
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1904
Registration district: Stourbridge
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume Number: 6c
Page Number: 274
Spouse :-George Venn or Harold Joseph B Chance

Elizabeth "Lizzy" GITTINGS - B 1887 Staunton - Missing !

unknown — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:47:25 +0000

Elizabeth GITTINGS from Staunton Worce goes missing after 1901 ....

1901
John Gittings abt 1853 Redmarley, Worcestershire, England Head Corse, Gloucestershire
Fanny Gittings abt 1857 N Wife Corse, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Gittings abt 1887 Staunton, Worcestershire, England Daughter Corse, Gloucestershire
Kate Gittings abt 1892 Staunton, Worcestershire, England Daughter Corse, Gloucestershire