Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Richard JAMES c1838 -1900 Coleford -> Wigan

Richard JAMES c1838 -1900 Coleford -> Wigan (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 05:14:53 +0000

Once again thank to you all Bye the way where is Lingwood that is a new name to em. Kate

Lingwood - its a hard one ! my suspicion is that he said Lane End to the enumerator
and what was written down looks like Lanend, but there is an extra down stroke or mark near the "e" so the transcription of Ling starts ! the end could be "ood" so Lingood or Lingwood gets transcribed :-)

Richard JAMES c1838 -1900 Coleford -> Wigan (reply)

Jefff — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 04:04:52 +0000

Hi,
NORMALLY the best website to use for FH purposes when trying to identify a town or place is the excellent Genuki, although any search engine will do.
Apparently Lingwood Parish is near Norwich, does this make sense for you ?.

http://www.origins.org.uk/genuki/NFK/places/l/lingwood/

However clearly the Census refers to a Glostershire place, but..?.

Assuming the transcription & spelling is correct, the only Lingwood reference I can find is this, in other words a Grade 2 Listed House in the Cheltenham area ?
http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-474131-bayshill-house-and-lingwood-house-chelte

Richard JAMES c1838 -1900 Coleford -> Wigan (reply)

unknown — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:14:29 +0000

Thank you all for so much information. I now need to elimate the other Richard James's that I found in the 1841 census and check to see if they are still in the Coleford area at 1861 census. My Richard James was then in Shevington Lancashire. If I find one missing in 1861 then I may have discovered my fellow. He first married Jane Downham in 1863, she died in 1868. Have both certificates as she is my ancester.
Once again thank to you all Bye the way where is Lingwood that is a new name to em. Kate

James WILLIAMS c1835 Coleford -> LANCS (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:49:07 +0000

1861
William Ashcroft abt 1809 Binberton, Lancashire, England Head Shevington, Lancashire
Jane Ashcroft abt 1785 Standish, Lancashire, England Wife Shevington, Lancashire
Ellen Whitter abt 1839 Wigan, Lancashire, England Stepdaughter Shevington, Lancashire
James Williams abt 1836 Lingwood, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Shevington, Lancashire
Richard James abt 1835 Lingwood, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Shevington, Lancashire

1871 west derby Lancs
James Williams 36 Coleford
Sarah Williams 28
James Williams 14
Susannah Williams 10
Christopher Williams 2
Sarah Williams 1 Month

Richard JAMES c1838 -1900 Coleford -> Wigan (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:25:22 +0000

1861
William Ashcroft abt 1809 Binberton, Lancashire, England Head Shevington, Lancashire
Jane Ashcroft abt 1785 Standish, Lancashire, England Wife Shevington, Lancashire
Ellen Whitter abt 1839 Wigan, Lancashire, England Stepdaughter Shevington, Lancashire
James Williams abt 1836 Lingwood, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Shevington, Lancashire
Richard James abt 1835 Lingwood, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Shevington, Lancashire Miner

Name:Ann Lyon
Name: Richard James
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1868
Registration district: Wigan
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 102

1871 Shevington Lancs
Richard James 34 Coleford Miner
Ann James 35
Mary A James 7
William James 3
William Murray 16
William Gibson 15
John Edwards 33

1881
Richard James abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Head Shevington, Lancashire
Ann James abt 1833 Shevington, Lancashire, England Wife Shevington, Lancashire
William James abt 1866 Shevington, Lancashire, England Son Shevington, Lancashire
Richard James abt 1872 Shevington, Lancashire, England Son Shevington, Lancashire
Annie James abt 1875 Shevington, Lancashire, England Daughter Shevington, Lancashire
William Lyon abt 1868 Shevington, Lancashire, England Step Son Shevington, Lancashire

1891
Richard James abt 1839 Nk, Gloucestershire, England Head Wigan, Lancashire
Ann James abt 1833 Nk, Gloucestershire, England Wife Wigan, Lancashire
Richard James abt 1872 Sherington (Sherrington), Lancashire, England Son Wigan, Lancashire
Ann James abt 1875 Sherington (Sherrington), Lancashire, England Daughter Wigan, Lancashire
William Lyon abt 1868 Sherington (Sherrington), Lancashire, England Stepson Wigan, Lancashire

Name: Richard James
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1900
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Wigan
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 40

Richard JAMES c1838 at Coleford or Gloucester (reply)

unknown — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:58:13 +0000

more information on Richard JAMES
1861 cesnsu he 26 yrs with James Williams 25yrs both born Gloucester
1863 he is 24yrs at time of marriage
1871 he is 34 yrs born Coleford
1881 he is 43yrs born Gloucestershire
1891 he is now 52yrs born Gloucestershire
1900 died age 61yrs.
He names his first child a daughter Mary Ann JAMES. His wife's mother is Mary, so I wondered if his mother was Ann. Other children William 1868 -1888 Ellen 1868 - 1868.
He had two wives. I hope this might help to find his parents.

Richard Wysam JAMES/PRITCHARD/WILLIAMS (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:45:49 +0000

Gloucestershire BDM

Richard Wysam JAMES, mother's maiden name: PRITCHARD - 1838, Coleford
David JAMES, mother's maiden name WILLIAMS - 1841 Coleford
Mary Sarah Elizabeth JAMES - 1845 - mother's maiden name PRITCHARD - Monmouth, Coleford

??
FOD records

Marriage at Gloucester St Mary de Lobe - 24 February 1831

William JAMES bachelor residence : Newland

Elizabeth PRITCHARD - spinster,

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Richard JAMES c1838 at Coleford; Hillersland (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:12:29 +0000

Candidate 1 ( with a WILLIAMS hint here)

1841 Hillersland
Mary Williams abt 1776 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
An James abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary James abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Richard James abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
David James abt 1841 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

<><><><><> looks like Ann and William as parents

Year: 1834
Month: Jul
Day: 20
Parents_Surname: JAMES
Child_Forenames: Mary
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Anne
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hiller's Land
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: T.R. Garnsey
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 8212
Page_Number: 31
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch

Year: 1841
Month: Mar
Day: 28
Parents_Surname: JAMES
Child_Forenames: David
Fathers_Forenames:
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hillers-land
Occupation: Widow
Officiating_Minister: Geo.W.Sandys Officiating Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Feb 19 1841
Notes: birth date in left margin
Register_Reference: P138 in 1/5
Page_Number: 75
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor

Year: 1845
Month: Nov
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: POTTER
Child_Forenames: Sophia
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Anne
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hillersland
Occupation: Shoemaker
Officiating_Minister: J Burdon
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P138 in 1/5
Page_Number: 89
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor

1841 Hillersland
William Potter abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire Shoe maker ?

1851 Shortstanding
William Potter abt 1795 Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Potterabt 1811 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Potter abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary James abt 1835 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
David James abt 1841 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
William James abt 1775 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Visitor West Dean, Gloucestershire

1861 Hillersland
William Potter abt 1789 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Potter abt 1811 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Potter abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizth Jane Butler abt 1860 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Morse Thd [NURSE CHILD] West Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1870
Month: Dec
Day: 6
Surname: POTTER
Forenames: Ann
Residence: Hillersland
Age_at_death: 60
Officiating_Minister: W.H.Taylor
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC82 IN 1/14
Page_No: 10
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch

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Careful there is a second Richard JAMES in the area

1861 Hillersland
William James abt 1809 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann James abt 1814 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Richard James abt 1838 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

Richard JAMES c1838 at Coleford; Speedwell (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:08:06 +0000

Candidate 2

1841 Speedwell
William James abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth James abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Philip James abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Richard James abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire

Richard JAMES c1838 at Coleford or Gloucester

unknown — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:18:31 +0000

Richard JAMES born c1838 at Coleford parents unknown. He had moved to Lancashire by 1861 census. He married in 1863 at Pemberton Lancashire and stated his father was William WILLAMS on the certificate. On another census he says born Gloucester. He died in 1900. How can I find any more information on my 2nd great grandfather?