Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Children of Joseph & Charlotte Sollars

Children of Joseph & Charlotte Sollars (reply)

sue(nee sollars)crocombe — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:35:29 +0000

hello marion? I think we are related and have "spoken" via email - I am Ken Sollars daughter Sue. My grandparents were Grace(nee Hall) and John Sollars and my maternal great grandmother was a Walford before she married a Hall

John SOLLARS 1833 -ish Sheepscombe (reply)

auntiema — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:12:16 +0000

Hi Jim, sorry not to have replied before but my comp was & still is out of action. I do have a George in my tree but as I'm not at home I am unable to look up. Please bear with me & when I'm up & running I will reply.
Regards, Auntie Ma

John SOLLARS 1833 -ish Sheepscombe (reply)

jimcrowther — Sun, 24 May 2009 06:04:47 +0000

HI,

I HAVE A GEORGE SOLLARS WHO WAS BORN IN 1845 AND WAS ON A FARM AT GREAT WITCOMBE GLOS WORKING FOR THE NASH FARM. IS THIS A RELITIVE OF YOURS ?

REGARDS JIM NASH

John SOLLARS 1833 -ish Sheepscombe (reply)

auntiema — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:52:19 +0000

Hi Martin, I have a copy of John's wedding cert which shows his father as Joseph not Samuel - hence the brick wall I have. There are a few sites with large trees & most of what I have researched agrees with theirs but I have not gone that far back. One of the trees makes a comment about Lilian being known by another name but it's not one I've ever heard of.
Oh well - one day
regards
auntiema

John SOLLARS 1833 -ish Sheepscombe (reply)

unknown — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:37:29 +0000

I guess you've seen Andrew Moore's site?

He has John's father as Samuel but says he's traced the Sollars line back through 1066 to Normandy - it's an interesting read with lots of local info.

His site is at:

http://freespace.virgin.net/andrew.moore2/fh/

and his entry for Joseph Sollars & Charlotte Bayliss is at:

http://freespace.virgin.net/andrew.moore2/fh/pafg17.htm#652

Regards,

Martin

John SOLLARS 1833 -ish Sheepscombe (reply)

unknown — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:35:07 +0000

Sort of, I'm Thelma's other half. ;)

Regards,

Martin

John SOLLARS 1833 -ish Sheepscombe (reply)

auntiema — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:58:35 +0000

Hi, I certainly do. Lilian was my grandmother & John my mum's brother.Any connection ?regards Auntie Ma

John SOLLARS 1833 -ish Sheepscombe (reply)

unknown — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:32:09 +0000

Sorry, the uncle John/Lilian question was meant for auntiema. :(

Martin

John SOLLARS 1833 -ish Sheepscombe (reply)

unknown — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:30:47 +0000

Hmm. These names seem familiar. Do you have an uncle John, son of Lilian?

Martin

John SOLLARS 1833 -ish Sheepscombe (reply)

auntiema — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:05:55 +0000

Hi, thanks for replying.
I am, along with another Sollars researcher, trying to compile a Sollars tree that only has people in it that are sourced from parish records or certicates. We have hit a wall with John (abt 1835)who is, I think, father to George & his younger brother John (1874 & my great grandfather) We know on John Sollars & Amelia Worgans wedding certificate (8/11/1855)that John's father is given as Joseph & not Samuel as we first supposed. From research we think therefore that John(1835) must be the son of Joseph & Charlotte Sollars (ne Baylis). The problem is that we can't find a baptism for John around 1835.
I have searched the baptism cd for Gloucestershire 1813-1837 & there is no John as son to Joseph & Charlotte Sollars. However there is a transcribed entry for a John Baylis in 1835 with parents Joseph & Charlotte Baylis & my thought is that just perhaps the surname was miss keyed & the mothers maiden name was entered insteade of her married name during the transcribing.
I have no other ideas.
On the 1841 John Sollars appears with his parents Joseph & Charlotte Sollars. The only way I can prove the 1835 entry theory is by looking at the original parish records which are presumably held at the record office. Unless,by luck, someone out there has actually seen the original entry.
I wouldn't mind sometime cross checking the info I have on George with you if you dont mind
Thanks again for replying,
Marion

John SOLLARS 1833 -ish Sheepscombe (reply)

jstephens — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:08:16 +0000

I have done some research on the Sollars at Christchurch. John and Amelia are my husband's ggg grandparents. He is descended from George. I live near Christchurch and my husband's family still worship at the church. If I can be of any use please let me know.

John SOLLARS 1833 -ish Sheepscombe (reply)

auntiema — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 08:06:29 +0000

Hi Daniel, cheers - glad you've been busy, hope you got my snail mail notes ok
Speak soon, Marion

John SOLLARS 1833 -ish Sheepscombe (reply)

dsollars — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 05:42:34 +0000

Marion, I will email you tomorrow with my research that I have done over the Xmas Holidays. Daniel x

John SOLLARS 1833 -ish Sheepscombe (reply)

auntiema — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 03:42:10 +0000

Thanks for replying. The 1901 family are my g g grandparents, the Henry born 1875 (son of John & Amelia) is my great grandfather. It's a birth/baptism that eludes me. The wedding you have as a possibility is the correct one according to the family bible. The problem is that any tree I have seen(online) for this family has a Samuel as being the father of John where as it would seem to be Joseph. I live in hope that someone somewhere will have the actual dates, very much a waiting game I think.
The trouble with census listings is that they can seem so vague on occasions, that's why I'm looking for an actual birth.
Thankyou for your time & help,
With regards, Marion

John SOLLARS 1833 -ish Sheepscombe (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:51:51 +0000

the river "gets it the way"

but that is not a block , the extra context of your family in the Christchurch area helps :-)

1901
John Sollers abt 1832 N, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Monmouthshire
Amelia Sollers abt 1833 Goodrich, Herefordshire, England Wife West Dean, Monmouthshire
Bertha Adams abt 1889 Kingston, Surrey, England Niece West Dean, Monmouthshire

1891 Shortstanding
John Sollers abt 1835 Shepscombe, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Amelia Sollers abt 1836 Goodrich, Herefordshire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Henry Sollers abt 1875 Englesh Bunis, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1881 Hillersland
John Sollars abt 1834 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Amelia Sollars abt 1834 Goodrich, Hereford, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Emily Sollars abt 1864 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
George Sollars abt 1869 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Henry Sollars abt 1875 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Luics or Luies Sollars abt 1871 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
John Sollers abt 1834 Sheepscombe, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Amelia Sollers abt 1835 Goodrich, Herefordshire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ada Sollers abt 1865 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Annie Sollers abt 1858 Goodrich, Herefordshire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Emily Sollers abt 1863 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
George Sollers abt 1869 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Rosana Sollers abt 1861 Goodrich, Herefordshire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

probable marriage

Year: 1855
Month: Nov
Day: 8
Grooms_Surname: SOLLERS
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age: of full age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Woolaston
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Sollers
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: WORGAN
Brides_Forenames: Amelia
Brides_Age: of full age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Woolaston
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Worgan
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Mark
Witness_1: William Davis
Witness_2: Mak of Mary Worgan
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Browne
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 55
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston

probable bride

Year: 1834
Month: Apr
Day: 27
Parents_Surname: WORGAN
Child_Forenames: Amelia
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Huntsham
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: H C Morgan
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: BF 16/5
Page_Number: 66
Parish_Chapel: Goodrich

children of Joseph & Charlotte Sollars (reply)

auntiema — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:28:39 +0000

Thanks for your prompt reply. I realise that the river "gets it the way" but this John did "go over" after his marriage. My great grandfather lived in Christchurch Nr Coleford which I remember as being close to the Forrest of Dean & I am , with fingers crossed, hoping someone out there researching the same family will have seen John's birth/baptism. I know, via his wedding cert, that his father was Joseph but have no sighting of birth details. I have trawled through a cd of Gloucestershire birth reg 1818-1837 & looked & looked at the civil reg lists to no avail. There are a lot of family trees posted on the internet that have Samuel as being the father of my John but I take my thoughts from the wedding cert .
Thanks again, Marion

children of Joseph & Charlotte Sollars (reply)

auntiema — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:19:25 +0000

Thanks for your prompt reply. I have seen this family in various census reports but , to date, haven't found conformation of a birth/baptism for "my" John. Some years ago, whilst still a novice, I took info from a family tree posted on the webb & "assumed" it to be correct. That was my mistake. These days nothing gets entered without a confirmed source but a lot of people have Samuel as Johns father when I am certain this particular John 's father is Joseph (as seen on John's wedding certificate)
Do you by chance have birth/baptism for the various Johns born around this time? I would be very grateful if you could share this info with me.
with regards, Marion

children of Joseph & Charlotte Sollars (reply)

turbo_chef — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:20:57 +0000

i am descended from the Sollars of Sheepscombe and have followed nearly all the Sollars through the census who were from sheepscombe. i am willing to allow access to my online tree to any one on this site who may be interested in this line.

I am not claiming too be a expert or that i am 100% correct but i think i have matched all the John sollars who fit in with this family

nigel

children of Joseph & Charlotte Sollars (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:33:36 +0000

You are on the Stroud side of the Severn rather than the Forest side -

1841 Sheepscombe
Joseph Sollis abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Painswick, Gloucestershire
Charlotte Sollis abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Painswick, Gloucestershire
Ann Sollis abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Painswick, Gloucestershire
Eliza Sollis abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Painswick, Gloucestershire
John Sollis abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Painswick, Gloucestershire
William Sollis abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Painswick, Gloucestershire

3 possibles in 1851 census

John Sollars abt 1828 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Prisoner North Hamlet, Gloucestershire

Name: John Sollers
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheepscombe, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Elmore
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Gloucester
Sub registration district: St John the Baptist
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
William James 55
E James 21
M James 20
J James 16
John Sollers 18
Edward Townsend 15

Name: John Sollers
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheepscombe, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Painswick
Ecclesiastical parish: Painswick
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Stroud
Sub registration district: Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
William Sollers 27
Eliza Sollers 27
Olive Louisa Sollers 3
Eliza Sollers 1
John Sollers 16

Children of Joseph & Charlotte Sollars

auntiema — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 07:41:35 +0000

Please, does anyone have the birth/baptism details for John Sollars/Sollers. He is the son of Joseph Sollars & Charlotte Bayliss & was born 1830-1840. I have baptisms from 1820 - 1831 (Sheepscombe) & birth registrations from 1837-1842(9?) Stroud district. I think he should come somewhere between these two lots of information.
Any help would be very much appreciated
Thankyou
Marion