Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Richard JAMES Coleford 1811 - 1882 - prior Thread

Richard JAMES Coleford 1811 - 1882 - prior Thread (reply)

emilyellen — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:59:14 +0000

Many thanks for your helpful suggestions, I will keep searching

Richard JAMES Coleford 1811 - 1882 - prior Thread (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:14:26 +0000

1841 Coalway Lane / Lords Hill
Richard James abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire Ag Lab
Ann James abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Ann James abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Catherine James abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire

Year 1842
Month Jly
Day 23
Parents Surname JAMES
Child Forenames Elizabeth
Fathers Forenames Richard
Mothers Forenames Anne
Mothers Surname
Residence Coalway Lane
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister Edwd Hawkins Perpetual Curate
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P 93 IN 1/5
Page Number 58
Parish Chapel Coleford

1851
Richard James abt 1811 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Ann James abt 1815 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Cathrine James abt 1841 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Eliza James abt 1848 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth James abt 1843 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
James James abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire

Year 1854
Month Jul
Day 30
Parents Surname JAMES
Child Forenames Eliras
Fathers Forenames Richard
Mothers Forenames Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence Coleford
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister J N Paztowiz
Event Baptism
Memoranda Born May 7th 1847
Notes
Register Reference P93 IN I/6
Page Number 4
Parish Chapel Coleford

Year 1854
Month Jul
Day 30
Parents Surname JAMES
Child Forenames James
Fathers Forenames Richard
Mothers Forenames Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence Coleford
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister J N Paztowiz
Event Baptism
Memoranda Born Aug 18th 1850
Notes
Register Reference P93 IN I/6
Page Number 4
Parish Chapel Coleford

Year 1854
Month Jul
Day 30
Parents Surname JAMES
Child Forenames Fanny
Fathers Forenames Richard
Mothers Forenames Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence Coleford
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister J N Paztowiz
Event Baptism
Memoranda Born Sept 3rd 1851
Notes
Register Reference P93 IN I/6
Page Number 4
Parish Chapel Coleford

Year 1854
Month Jul
Day 30
Parents Surname JAMES
Child Forenames Sarah
Fathers Forenames Richard
Mothers Forenames Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence Coleford
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister J N Paztowiz
Event Baptism
Memoranda Born Apr 26 1854
Notes
Register Reference P93 IN I/6
Page Number 4
Parish Chapel Coleford

1861
Richard James abt 1811 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Ann James abt 1815 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Fanny James abt 1852 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
James James abt 1850 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Lucy James abt 1857 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Sarah James abt 1854 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire

Year: 1869
Month: Feb
Day: 28
Parents_Surname: JAMES
Child_Forenames: Lucy Anne
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coleford
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: Thomas Holbrow BA PC
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Nov 27 1856
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN I/6
Page_Number: 45
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

1871 Coalway Rd
Richard James abt 1811 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Ann James abt 1815 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
James James abt 1850 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Lucy James abt 1857 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire

1881 18 Coalway Rd Lords Hill
Richard James abt 1811 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Ann James abt 1815 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire

... then the next question is...

Is there a history / tradition of non-conformity in the family ?

If so tracking a baptism will either be more challenging, if indeed the ceremony of baptism was followed :-), or, impossible

Richard JAMES Coleford 1811 - 1882 - prior Thread (reply)

emilyellen — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:52:47 +0000

Slowhands, Many thanks for your very prompt replies to my enquiries. I have traced this Richard James and his family down to George James my late father by way of the 1841 1851,and 1861 census, all of whom lived in Coalway Road Coleford until he died in 1882 and his wife in 1886. I hold photo copies of the original Register of Graves of both which I visited in Coleford Cemetry during September 2008. I have therefore rejected any other Richard James born 5 years either side of 1811 born in The Forest of Dean. I would mention that I have found a number of unconfirmed possibles, probables, and red herrings in my long surchases for his parents. It seems that I have hit a brick wall !! however I will keep trying and thank you for your courteous respnses.

Richard JAMES Coleford 1811 - 1882 - prior Thread (reply)

emilyellen — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:28:48 +0000

Thanks slowhands, sorry I do not understand your reply, my latest posting giving additiional information results from no replies to the posting of August 18th 2008

Richard JAMES Coleford 1811 - 1882 - prior Thread (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:02:55 +0000

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=entry&id=13503

you may wish to consider his "age" and if one of the Richard James' from Coleford in 1806/07 may be him. It is not unusual for ages declared in the Census to be inaccurate - some declare themselves older because they have married or are working; others younger perhaps because they have a young wife etc !

A process of elimination by following these "others" may help.

Richard James 1811 - 1882

emilyellen — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:43:48 +0000

My great grandfather Richard James married Ann Evans on May 13th 1837 Minister J.J. Frobisher Parish - Chapel,Newland. Register reference P227 in 1/11. The grooms father surname and forenames are not shown on the FOD transcript of the marriage. Unfortunately the marriage took place approximately two months prior to when a marriage certificate could be obtained from GRO. I have also failed to find a transcript for his birth in 1811 to ascertain who were his father and mother, which is the information I am seeking. Can anyone please advise where else I may be able to search for his parents?