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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is on the 1841 as transcribed by ANCESTRY</p>
<p>Gloucestershire<br />
Dean Forest<br />
Ross<br />
District 8</p>
<p>Page 2 of 9</p>
<p>HO 107/364/11</p>
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<p><br />
Eliza<strong>th</strong> BUCH age 21  (the <strong>th</strong> is 'raised')<br />
Mary Anne (just <strong>ditto on the census</strong>)  - 13</p>
<p><br />
few houses away</p>
<p>Edwin BRICH - age 20</p>
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If you click my envelope, I've scanned and will send (I've zoomed in on the actual page)</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi mpg, You found an Edwin Beach, son of Humphrey, that means Mary Ann had a sister Elizabeth 1817 and a brother Edwin 1820,  and another sister Elizabeth Hartley Beach 1826. is that correct?. Thier mother would have been Priscilla.<br />
Then Humphrey married again to Elizabeth, so Bertha 1837, Milson 1839, Hurbert 1840 and Albert 1842 would have been her children<br />
Then you found 1841c.Mary Ann 13 correct age, with her sister Elizabeth 21. HOW DID YOU FIND THIS? Ive been looking for ages, I have to go to the Library to log into ancestry, was it under Buch and not Beach ?.<br />
I took me all last night to print off all my info then stick it together making a long sheet of paper so I can write on it in pencil.<br />
Thank you very much.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian you quoted 2/11/12. 17.51 &quot;in my tree&quot; doe's this mean we are researching the same family line?<br />
I have Samuel Beach m. Susannah  then the children are<br />
Maira1789, Humphrey 1791, Charlotte 1793, Benjamin 1795, Elijah 1796 and Samuel 1801. All b. Newlands, Glouc.<br />
Humphrey was my 3 times Gt Grandfather. Mary Ann was my 2 times Grand mother. Is there any one left out?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the marriage cert. spinster, no occupation is given, address is just Coleford Newlands.<br />
John Mansel Rawlings was living in 1851c in Coleford with his uncle Thomas Pruce 63 head. John was down as John M. Rolings 19 nephew. Sparrow hill</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks as if the 1841 census with Mary HINDER  is correct as Edwin was living in the Hundreds of St Briavels 1841 census<br />
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<p>FOD records</p>
<p>Marriage at Hewelsfield - 9 November 1842</p>
<p><strong>Edwin BEACH</strong> - full age, Batchelor, <strong>Shoemaker</strong>, Hundreds of St Briavels</p>
<p>father's name: <strong>Humphrey BEACH, Grocer</strong></p>
<p>married</p>
<p>Mary PROBERT, Spinster, Hundred of St Briavels</p>
<p>father: Richard ROBERT, foreman Coal Works</p>
<p>witnesses: Jane ASTON, Peter DARBY</p>
<p>and next door to his father Humphrey on the 1851 census West Dean</p>
<p>BEACH</p>
<p>Edwin - 31<br />
Mary - 31<br />
<em><span style="color:#f00;">Pricila  - 7</span></em><br />
Alfred - 5<br />
Caleb - 4<br />
Henry -3<br />
Henry HALE - 30</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this looks like a exceptional spot.....</p>
<p>I'm on FMP and can't bring up the census for Elizabeth &amp; Mary Ann but I have found </p>
<p>HINDES, Mary F 75 1766  Gloucestershire    <br />
BUCH, Edwin M 20 1821  Gloucestershire    <br />
JONES, Richard M 20 1821  Gloucestershire</p>
<p>and checked the transscript. It's as m p states</p>
<p>In my tree I have 1819 Edwin Beach son of Elijah Beach &amp; Maria Furber.</p>
<p>Elijah was Humphrey's brother ie Elizabeth and Mary Ann's Uncle</p>
<p>Looks like a good bet to me</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bluebell</p>
<p>One of your possibilities is out .....</p>
<p>This is her in 1841<br />
1841 census at Breams Eaves living with Grand Parents<br />
JINKINS, George M 65 1776 Gloucestershire <br />
JINKINS, Elizabeth F 65 1776 Gloucestershire <br />
CULLIS, George M 15 1826 Gloucestershire <br />
BEACH, Mary F 10 1831 Gloucestershire <br />
MORSE, William M 42 1799 Gloucestershire</p>
<p>and this is the rest of her family<br />
1841 census at Broom Green Park End Walk Dean Forest (Next to Thomas' brother William &amp; Silve)<br />
BEACH, Thomas M 40 1801 Gloucestershire <br />
Betty (JENKINS) F 30 1811 Gloucestershire <br />
Hariet* F 5 1836 Gloucestershire <br />
Emma F 3 1838 Gloucestershire <br />
Phillis F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1841 Gloucestershire <br />
JINKINS, Mary F 10 1831 Gloucestershire</p>
<p>The second (Ann Beach 15 b. Gloucestershire with a George Owen50 at Tythings of Newlands) remains a possibility and I've found a tenuous link or two...</p>
<p>1. They are in the right neighbourhood (other Mary in Bream rather than Newlands)<br />
2. This is the grouping in 1841<br />
MORGAN, Sarah F 45 1796  Gloucestershire  <br />
MORGAN, Edwid M 14 1827  Gloucestershire    <br />
MORGAN, George M 11 1830  Gloucestershire    <br />
MORGAN, Robert M 8 1833  Gloucestershire   <br />
MORGAN, Tom M 5 1836  Gloucestershire   <br />
BEACH, Ann F 15 1826  Gloucestershire    <br />
OWEN, George M 50 1791  Gloucestershire </p>
<p>The family father is absent but if you search for baptisms you get, for example</p>
<p>44124 1826 MORGAN Edwin Richard Sarah   Newland Shoemaker</p>
<p>So, Richard was a Shoe Maker just like Humphrey at this time, maybe they were colleagues even friends? Make of it what you will, it could well be just a coincidence...</p>
<p>I can't find any family connection between the Morgans &amp; the Beachs</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This confirms the correct family.  What address/occupation is given for Mary Ann BEACH on the marriage certificate?  Did Mary meet John Mansel RAWLINGS in London as he was born in Middx.</p>
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??</p>
<p>1841 Census Berry Hill - District 8 page 2 of 9 - <strong>Hundred of St Briavels</strong></p>
<p><br />
BUCH on Ancestry</p>
<p><br />
Elizath BEACH - 21 <strong>Grocer</strong> - is this her older sister<br />
Mary Anne BEACH- 13</p>
<p>John WILLIAMS 40<br />
Thomas WILLIAMS 15</p>
<p>a few doors away</p>
<p>Mary HINDER/ - 75 Ind.<br />
<strong>Edwin BRICH/BEACH - 20 - <strong>Shoe maker</strong></strong><br />
Richard JONES -20/26 Shoemaker</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The witnesses to Mary Ann's wedding 1857 Monmouth, were her sister Bertha Beach b. 1837 ish. and her brother Hurbert Beach b.1840 ish</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Brian I didn't know he went from shoes to grocer.<br />
I'm still stumped as to Mary Ann on the 1841c.<br />
I found two though the dates are out.<br />
Ann Beach 15 b. Gloucestershire with a George Owen50 at Tythings of Newlands.<br />
Mary Beach 10 with a George Jinkins 65 and family at St Briavels, Brecon Eaves. She just came in the age range of leaving home for the 1841c.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>for what it's worth....</p>
<p>I can conform that Humphrey the Shoemaker 1841 became Humphrey the Grocer in 1851</p>
<p>This appears to be Priscilla baptism</p>
<p>1791 ABRAHALL Priscilla John Martha       Aston Ingham</p>
<p>I can find no record of her death or Mary Ann's birth....</p>
<p>Humphrey had remarried by 1841 so maybe Mary Ann was living with other relatives by 1841, but I can find no trace of that either. Presumably, her birth certificate quotes Priscilla as her mother? (What out there's a Humphrey about!)</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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<p>Mary Ann BEECH/BEACH's father on her marriage certificate was a <em>Grocer not a Shoemaker, confirmed as change of occupation by BSEDDON </em>.  Who were the witnesses at the wedding?</p>
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<p>Ancestry: National Probate Calendar</p>
<p>20 September 1865</p>
<p>BEACH Humphrey - Effects under £20</p>
<p>of Humphrey BEACH late of Coleford in the County of Gloucester deceased who died 23 November 1864 at Coleford aforesaid was proved at the Principal Registry by the oath of<strong> Samuel BEACH of Monmouth</strong> in the County of Monmouth, Carpenter the Nephew the sole Executor.</p>
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<p>Think this is him on the 1861 Census<br />
Monnow Street, Monmouth</p>
<p>Samuel BEACH - 36, Carpenter &amp; Joiner, born Monmouth<br />
Marth - 31 - born Bucks, High Wycombe<br />
Martha Ann - 4<br />
Samuel Foley BEACH - 2<br />
Stephen PARKER, Widower, 58, Visitor, born Glos. Dursley?  (very faint census return)<br />
Emma WILLIAM F/S  born London, Middx</p>
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<p>1851 Census, Monmouth</p>
<p>Jeremiah GRIFFITHS - 26, Clockmaker, born Monmouth<br />
Susannah GRIFFITHS - 24  - born Monmouth<br />
Samuel BEACH - wife's brother, 26, Carpenter, born Monmouth</p>
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<p>1841 Census, Monmouth<br />
St Mary's Lane</p>
<p>BEACH</p>
<p>Samuel - 40 - not born in County<br />
Elizabeth - 35 - not born in County<br />
Samuel - 15<br />
Susan - 13<br />
Benjamin - 5<br />
Fanny - 3<br />
John - 1 (all children born in the County)</p>
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previous thread</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&amp;id=35753#p35888">http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&amp;id=35753#p35888</a></p>
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<p><br />
1841 Census Berry Hill </p>
<p>BEACH</p>
<p>Humprey  - 45, Shoemaker<br />
Elizabeth - 40<br />
Bertha - 5 - FOD records - 3 September 1836 - Coleford Baptist<br />
Milson - 3<br />
Herbert - 1</p>
<p>FOD records</p>
<p>Baptisms of Humprey &amp; Priscilla</p>
<p><br />
at Coleford<strong> Methodist</strong>  (non-conformists)</p>
<p>25 November 1817 (born 7 September 1817)</p>
<p>Elizabeth BEACH</p>
<p>residence: Sparrow Hill Coleford</p>
<p><br />
and</p>
<p>at Linton</p>
<p>28 December 1826</p>
<p>Elizabeth Hartley <strong>BEECH</strong>  parents Humphrey (Shoemaker) and Priscilla</p>
<p>residence: <strong>Chepstow</strong></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Priscilla Abrahall m. Humphrey Beach 25 Jan 1813 Aston, Herefordshire.<br />
My Gt.grandmother must have been their daughter, Mary Ann Beach b. 1828ish Gloucestershire. ( I do not have a cert for her b.)<br />
Humphrey Beach m. again in 2/Aug/1835 to Elizabeth Williams Whitchurch,Herefordshire.<br />
So I am looking for a death of Priscilla?</p>
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