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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you MPGriffiths</p>
<p>I do not think the births of 1791 and 1795 on a Public Members Tree on Ancestry are correct as I believe the following burials (from this site), for William and Elizabeth Roberts, are William Roberts and Elizabeth Evans who married 28 Sep 1815 -</p>
<p>Newland  9 Dec 1823 Elizabeth Roberts  residence Whitecliff, age 35 -  born c 1788</p>
<p>Newland  3 Jan 1824 William Roberts residence Whitecliff, age 46 - born c 1777 **</p>
<p>** my reasoning for William Roberts, son of Anthony and Mary, bap 1776, to be considered</p>
<p>Will of William Roberts  - 1 Dec 1847 - is William Roberts bap  1768, died 10 Dec 1846, married to Hannah Williams</p>
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<title>ROBERTS/MARFELL/TRIGG/DAWES (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The marriage between William ROBERTS and Elizabeth EVANS was by Licence (record on this site) - giving their ages as over 21.  One witness transcribed as <strong>Shvinous</strong> ROBERTS***</p>
<p>There are baptisms for their children also on Fod Records - at various places, but residence : Whitecliff</p>
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Once again there is a Public Members Tree on Ancestry - giving William ROBERTS date of birth as 1791 and Elizabeth EVANS as 1795.</p>
<p>One son being Abel ROBERTS (married A<strong>nn TRIGG according to the tree **)</strong> - christened 25 April 1819 at Newland - this on the the Public Members Tree</p>
<p><br />
1841 Census, Dean Forest<br />
Haseley</p>
<p>Abel ROBERTS - 23<br />
Ann - 23<br />
Thomas - 1<br />
Mary ROBERTS - 18</p>
<p><br />
** Gloucestershirebdm</p>
<p>Abel ROBERTS married Ann TRIGG - Hempsted St Swithun 1849</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>There is a Will of William ROBERTS  - 1 December 1847 of East Dean Hawthorns - talks about his wife Hannah and son <strong>Theophilus </strong>ROBERTS</p>
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<p>Marriage at Newland 20 October 1790</p>
<p>William ROBERTS married Hannah WILLIAMS</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2015 16:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the information you have provided. </p>
<p>Re the Will of Anthony Roberts bap 1719 bur 1797 - his wife was Mary Vaughan bap 1730 and buried 5 Apr 1801. From this information it would appear that Mary Vaughan is the mother of Henry and Elizabeth, and Moses Roberts,a witness at Elizabeth's marriage to John Marfell would be Elizabeth's cousin - nephew of Mary, son of Phoebe Vaughan and William Roberts. At Henry Roberts' marriage to Lucy Dawes, Jonathon Roberts witness,  I am assuming is brother of Henry Roberts and further confirmation of Mary Vaughan as mother.</p>
<p>Have checked the Parish Registers on this site, and Absalom Roberts, Henry Roberts' grandson was bap 19 Oct 1828 at Drybrook, 'base son of' Mary Roberts of Ruardean Hill. </p>
<p>I am also searching for William Roberts who married Elizabeth Evans in 1815 at Newland and as William Roberts bap 1776 is a possibility I wondered if anyone had a marriage for this William in their tree.</p>
<p>Any information would be of great assistance.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you be a bit more specific with your question.</p>
<p>I have 26 William Roberts in my Family Tree, including the one baptised in May 1776. I don't have a marriage for him, but that doesn't mean he was not married, more that he is not significant in my tree.</p>
<p>Jim Ashton</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a few trees on Public Members Trees Ancestry - one saying William ROBERTS born 28 May 1776 in Ruardean - died 10 December 1846 : Calvados, Base-Normandia, France</p>
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<p>(Anthony ROBERTS buried at Ruardean 5 May 1797 aged 78 c1719)</p>
<p>Ancestry has the Will of Anthony Roberts (Coalminer of Ruardean)</p>
<p>The 25 day of August 1801</p>
<p>On which day appeared Personally Henry ROBERTS and Elizabeth MARFELL - wife of John MARFELL - and alleged that Anthony ROBERTS late of Ruardean in the County and Diocese of Gloucester, Coalminer - lately died Intestate and that they - the said Anthony ** ROBERTS and Elizabeth MARFELL were and are two of the natural and lawful children of the next of Kin of the said deceased</p>
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** does say Anthony (assume means Henry)</p>
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<p>Marriage at  Newland - 18 May 1795</p>
<p>John MARFELL - residence, Newland</p>
<p>married</p>
<p>Elizabeth ROBERTS - residence, Newland</p>
<p>by banns</p>
<p>witnesses: <strong>Moses ROBERTS </strong>and Thos. BOND</p>
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<p>? Baptism at Micheldean - 23 August 1797</p>
<p>Lucy MARFELL - parents John &amp; Elizabeth</p>
<p><br />
?</p>
<p>Marriage at Newland - 22 August 1816</p>
<p>Lucy MARFELL + George <strong>TRIGG</strong></p>
<p>one witness was <strong>Jonathan MARFELL</strong></p>
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<p>Henry ROBERTS of the Morse Ruardean - died 13 October 1847 -  Ruardean Will written 10 October 1847 - mentions Grandson Absolom ROBERTS - who appeared personally 29 October 1853 and his Servant Tracey STEPHENS</p>
<p><br />
1841 Census, Morse, Ruardean</p>
<p>Henerey ROBERTS - 60 - Collier <br />
Tracey STEPHENS - 50 -</p>
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<p><br />
?  1851 Census, Monmouthshire Llanover</p>
<p>Absolom ROBERTS - 21 Collier born Ruardean<br />
Anna ROBERTS - 28 - born Somerset  Hinton  St George<br />
Matthew Henry ROBERTS - 6 months - born Llanover</p>
<p><br />
1861 Census, Ruardean</p>
<p>Absolom ROBERTS - 33 - Grocer - born Ruardean<br />
Ann - 39 - born Somerset, Hinton St George<br />
Matthew H - - Scholar born Monmouthshire Blan….<br />
<strong>George TRIGG </strong>- Lodger - Widower - 64 - Coal Miner, born Glos East Dean</p>
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<p>Baptism at Ruardean - 29 December 1825</p>
<p>Henry &amp; Lucy ROBERTS - daughter Lucy</p>
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<p>Marriage at English Bicknor - 2 December 1802</p>
<p>Henry ROBERTS married Lucy DAWES</p>
<p>witnesses:</p>
<p>Jonathon ROBERTS and Elizabeth COWMEADOW</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2015 12:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>ROBERTS, Anthony and Mary</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Parish Registers on this site:<br />
ROBERTS, Anthony (bap 1719)and VAUGHAN, Mary (bap 1730) married 16 Feb 1751 at St Nicholas, Gloucester  and<br />
ROBERTS, Anthony (bap 1741) and HARRIS, Mary (1736) married 20 Aug 1764 at Ruardean</p>
<p>From the baptisms on this site: Parents - ROBERTS, Anthony and Mary<br />
1751 10 Dec  Sarah  Mitcheldean residence Ruardean <br />
1753 22 Apr  Mary  Ruardean    <br />
1755 24 Aug  Richard  Ruardean    <br />
1758 28 Feb  Jonathan Mitcheldean  residence Ruardean <br />
1759  25 Dec  Absalom Ruardean    <br />
1762 18 Apr  Hanthony Ruardean    <br />
1764 1 Jul  John  Ruardean<br />
1766 8 Jun  Mary  Ruardean    <br />
1766 31 Oct  Elizabeth Mitcheldean residence Ruardean <br />
1769 26 Mar  Phebe  Ruardean      <br />
1769 23 Apr  William  Ruardean    <br />
1772 21 Jun  Anthony Ruardean<br />
1772 28 Nov  Ann  Ruardean<br />
1774 26 Aug/Sep William  Mitcheldean residence Ruardean <br />
1776 28 May  William  Ruardean    <br />
1777 15 Sep  Henry  Ruardean<br />
1783 20 Aug  Joyce  Ruardean<br />
Burials on this site:<br />
Hantony Roberts bur  26 Jun 1763 Ruardean<br />
William Roberts  bur  1 Sep 1769 and 16 Jan 1775 Ruardean</p>
<p>Based on dates the children baptised up to year 1762 have mother Mary Vaughan. Can anyone confirm/advise which Mary is the mother of the remaining children - <br />
1764 John - based on date of marriage Mary Vaughan but Mary Harris' father is John<br />
1766 Mary - Mary Harris as Mary born to Mary Vaughan in 1753<br />
1766 Elizabeth - Mary Vaughan (also based on church/residence)<br />
1769 Phebe - Mary Vaughan as has sister Phebe<br />
1769 William - Mary Harris<br />
1772 Anthony - Mary Harris<br />
1772 Ann - Mary Vaughan has sister Ann<br />
1774 William - based on church/residence Mary Vaughan<br />
1776 William - ? Mary Harris<br />
1777 Henry - ? Mary Vaughan  as Henry is Anthony's grandfather <br />
1783 Joyce - Mary Harris as Mary Vaughan too old</p>
<p>Also, does anyone in their family tree have a marriage for William Roberts bap 1776?</p>
<p>Look forward to any help with the above queries.</p>
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