Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Morgan & Worgan

Morgan & Worgan (reply)

JoJo — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:31:17 +0000

I my stepfather is a decendant of the Morgans and I am interesting in the Ontario line of the family, I am happy to share what I have on the UK side.

Regards Jo

Morgan & Worgan (reply)

aidansrest — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:12:50 +0000

Hi
We have come to this conclusion mainly due to the ages of James and Ann, Ann always appears older, and an Ann Batten was born in Lyndey during 1777 which would match with her census age and her age at death. She married a James Morgan in 1806.
Also on the census returns Ann's birthplace is 'Lydney'.

Sorry this is brief but I'm at work and don't have my notes with me!

Sue

Morgan & Worgan (reply)

10noyrum — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:17:10 +0000

Can you explain why the parents of Henry Morgan (the Henry Morgan who married Maria Hamblin on 24/12/1840) are James Morgan and Ann Batton and not James Morgan and Ann Wood?

Chris Morgan

Morgan & Worgan (reply)

wagga1 — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:16:26 +0000

Thanks to help from Sue ( we share some of the main family lines) my lines are:
James Morgan m Anne Powel my 5x great grandparents
Their son James Morgan m Anne Batton my 4x great grandparents
Their son Henry Morgan m Maria Hamblin my 3x great grandparents
Their daughter Leah Morgan m Henry Watkins my 2 x great grandparents
Their daughter Leah Watkins m Oliver Grindle my great grandparents
Their daughter Olive Grindle b 1899 Cwmbran my grandmother.
These are all my maternal line which also links to Cooper and Price.
Phillip

Morgan & Worgan (reply)

alicejeanb — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:30:41 +0000

How happy I am to find your query - I am a 2ndgr. granddaughter to Mary Anne Worgan and George Morgan! Their daughter, Leah, is my gr. grandmother - she married a Clarke. The Morgans emigrated to Canada about 1850 or so, and lived their lives in Sarnia, Ontario. I have considerable information regarding these families, but have little about their families earlier in the Coleford area - PLEASE contact me - Alice-Jean McFarlin, thank you.

Morgan & Worgan (reply)

aidansrest — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:31:12 +0000

Hi Peter,
I have heaps of information on the Morgan family and quite abit on Leah, Henry Watkins and their family. I know she died too at a relatively young age in 1882 (34 I think). But I would love to know more!
I can give you alot of info on her brother, Moses as he is my gg grandfather and also Leah and Moses parents, Henry Morgan and Maria Hamblin.

If you can reply to me at my email address I'll be happy to send you want I have and would love to learn more about Leah,

Sue

Morgan & Worgan (reply)

psmith — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:33:03 +0000

Hello Sue,

I have just come across some of your messages re Henry Morgan & Moses Morgan. I am researching my wife's lines, and Henry Morgan is her gg grandfather; her g grandmother being Leah, sister of Moses. I have a fair bit of information about her. You seem to be much more advanced in your research than I am, but if Leah's line is of any interest to you, let me know.

Regards,
Peter

George MORGAN 1817 Coleford / Milkwall (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:46:14 +0000

Sue

I guessed you had, it was more to enhance the base note with extra names / places / details just in case someone else reading hadn't made the connection :-)
regards
S

George MORGAN 1817 Coleford / Milkwall (reply)

aidansrest — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:09:01 +0000

Hi Slowhands,
Thanks again for the information. I had found George and Mary on 1841 census as they are on the same census page as George's parents, James and Ann, and also, his brother, Henry and wife Maria.
I'd also located the record of George's marriage to Mary Ann and Amelia's, Benjamin's and Leah's baptisms,
thanks for your help though,
Sue

George MORGAN 1815 Coleford -> Wales ? (reply)

aidansrest — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:05:28 +0000

Hi Chris,
George Morgan's father was James Morgan, a collier, and his mother was Ann(e)Wood.
George's brother, Henry Morgan, born in 1822 in Coleford, is my grandfather x3. Henry married Maria Hamblin on 24/12/1840 and their first child, Moses, born 1843 is my grandfather x2.
Moses eventually left the Forest of Dean area and migrated North, working at Usworth colliery, then at Newbattle colliery in Dalkeith, Scotland, before settling in Durham City.
One of his son's, John, born c1882/4 (still can't track his birth certificate down as the family moved around so much!)is my g grandfather. He married in 1903 and his first child, John William Moses Morgan born 1904 was my grandfather.

Sue

George MORGAN 1817 Coleford / Milkwall (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:04:24 +0000

Year 1817
Month Dec
Day 7

Parents Surname MORGAN
Child Forename(s) George
Father's Forename(s) James
Mother's Forename(s) Anne
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Hundred of St Briavels
Occupation Coalminer
Officiating Minister Tho[ma]s Thomas
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P93 IN 1/4
Page No 28
Parish/Chapel Coleford

1841 Gorsty Knoll
George MORGAN 20 Coal miner
Mary Morgan 25

Year 1843
Month Jly
Day 9

Parents Surname MORGAN
Child Forename(s) Amelia
Father's Forename(s) George
Mother's Forename(s) Mary
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Forest of Dean
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister J L Sisson DDPerpetual Curate Coleford
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P 93 IN 1/5
Page No 64
Parish/Chapel Coleford

Year 1846
Month May
Day 17

Parents Surname MORGAN
Child Forename(s) Benjamin Parkes
Father's Forename(s) George
Mother's Forename(s) Mary
Mother's Surname

Place of Residence Milkwall
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister J L Sisson DDPerpetual Curate Coleford
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P 93 IN 1/5
Page No 76
Parish/Chapel Coleford

Year 1848
Month Apl
Day 9

Parents Surname MORGAN
Child Forename(s) Leah
Father's Forename(s) George
Mother's Forename(s) Mary Ann
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Milkwall
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister J L Sisson DDPerpetual Curate Coleford
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P 93 IN 1/5
Page No 84
Parish/Chapel Coleford

George MORGAN 1815 Coleford -> Wales ? (reply)

10noyrum2 — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:10:31 +0000

I think Lanvrechon and Lanvreola are modern day Llanfrechfa near Cwmbran (transcribed in the 1871 census as Cumbraes). All are in the Parliamentary constituency of Torfaen, South Wales.

My ancestor Sarah Morgan from Newland married John Phillips at Llanfrechfa on 10th September 1836. There were extensive tin, iron and coal mines nearby and hence the attraction to Forest of Dean miners. Amazingly, Sarah Morgan's gg grandfather William Morgan (bap 26th June 1704 Breem, Newland) was my ggggg father along a completely different line. A case of cross border in-breeding?

Can you tell me who the father of your George Morgan is? It is likely we are related through the Morgan line you can find on this excellent web site under Miscellaneous Documents (Thomas Morgan born circa 1645).

Chris Morgan.

George MORGAN 1815 Coleford -> Wales ? (reply)

aidansrest — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:06:10 +0000

Hi Slowhands,
Thanks for your reply. I have seen those census returns with George Morgan and family on and have a strong gut feeling that they are not the family I'm after.
Mary Ann could of been Maria but her year of birth is totally wrong, Mary Ann was born 1815.
Benjamin also appears as Benjamin James when he was Benjamin Parkes.
Just small points I know but enough to put me off!

Sue

George MORGAN 1815 Coleford -> Wales ? (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:02:45 +0000

a suspect

1851
George Morgan abt 1815 Lanvrechon, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Rumney Monmouthshire
Maria Morgan abt 1826 Lanvreova, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Rumney Monmouthshire
Benjamin Morgan abt 1847 Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Rumney Monmouthshire
Mary Ann Morgan abt 1849 Rumney, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Rumney Monmouthshire

1861
George Morgan abt 1815 Gloucestershire, England Head Eglwysilan Glamorgan
Maria Morgan abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Wife Eglwysilan Glamorgan
Benjamin Morgan abt 1847 Monmouthshire, Wales Son Eglwysilan Glamorgan
George Morgan abt 1853 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Son Eglwysilan Glamorgan
John Morgan abt 1858 Bath, Somerset, England Son Eglwysilan Glamorgan
Mary Ann Morgan abt 1855 Bath, Somerset, England Daughter Eglwysilan Glamorgan
Reny Morganabt 1860 Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Eglwysilan Glamorgan

1871
George Morgan abt 1815 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head Eglwysilan Glamorgan
Maria Morgan abt 1826 Cumbraes, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Eglwysilan Glamorgan
Abraham Morgan abt 1868 Nantgarn, Glamorgan, Wales Son Eglwysilan Glamorgan
Benjamin Jas Morgan abt 1847 Varteg, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Eglwysilan Glamorgan
George Morgan abt 1854 Bristol Son Eglwysilan Glamorgan
Henry Morgan abt 1862 Nantgarn, Glamorgan, Wales Son Eglwysilan Glamorgan
John Morgan abt 1859 Bath Son Eglwysilan Glamorgan
Mary Ann Morgan abt 1856 Bath Daughter Eglwysilan Glamorgan

1881 Upper Boat
George Morgan abt 1815 Gloucestershire, England Head Eglwysilan Glamorgan
Maria Morgan abt 1827 Monmouth, Wales Wife Eglwysilan Glamorgan
Abraham Morgan abt 1863 Glamorgan, Wales Son Eglwysilan Glamorgan
Benjamin J. Morgan abt 1847 Monmouth, Wales Son Eglwysilan Glamorgan
Henry J. Morgan abt 1861 Glamorgan, Wales Son Eglwysilan Glamorgan

Morgan & Worgan

aidansrest — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:49:42 +0000

Hello,
I'm trying to find any trace of George Morgan born 1817 in Coleford, son of James Morgan and Ann(e)Wood. He married Mary Ann Worgan, born 1815, on 8/2/1840.
I can find them both on the 1841 census living close to George's parents and George's brother, Henry Morgan, born 1822, (my grandfatherx3) and his wife, Maria.
There were at least three children of the marriage:
Amelia born 1843
Benjamin Parkes born 1846
Leah born 1848

However, I can find no trace of the family at all after the 1841 census. Can anybody tell me what happened to them, or better still find them?!

Thanks!
Sue