Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Kenneth R Phillips b1921 Monmouth

Kenneth R Phillips b1921 Monmouth (reply)

Jefff — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 14:00:48 +0000

I presume this is Ronald who Wynford mentioned earlier today
"Bernice Phillips was my wife's grandmother, her father was Ronald Partridge":

Surname Given Name Mother District Volume Page Transcriber
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Births Jun 1921
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PARTRIDGE Kenneth R Phillips Monmouth 11a 36 DavidH

Yes, from this FoD PRs site;

Record_ID: 1040863
Entry_Number: 71
Year: 1921
Month: Apr
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: PARTRIDGE
Child_Forenames: Kenneth Richard
Fathers_Forenames: Harry
Mothers_Forenames: Bernice
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Oldcroft
Occupation: Miner
Officiating_Minister: G.A[nderson]
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [Born] 1921 March 18
Notes:
Register_Reference: 259843
Page_Number: 15
Parish_Chapel: Pillowell Methodist
Soundex: P636

Record ID 1040861
Entry Number 60
Year 1921
Month Apr
Day 8
Parents Surname PARTRIDGE
Child Forenames Kenneth Richard
Fathers Forenames Harry
Mothers Forenames Bernice
Mothers Surname
Residence Oldcroft
Occupation Turner
Officiating Minister G.A[nderson]
Event Baptism
Memoranda [Born] March 18th 1921
Notes
Register Reference 259843
Page Number 12
Parish Chapel Pillowell Methodist

I cannot find any siblings on FoD PRs.

Are these Births related, from FreeBMD ??
(I cannot see a Partridge/Phillips prior Marriage in MT area)

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
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Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
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Partridge Ronald Phillips Merthyr T. 11a 1440

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Births Mar 1925 (>99%)
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Partridge Dorothy M Phillips Merthyr T. 11a 1311

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Births Dec 1927 (>99%)
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Partridge Betty Phillips Merthyr T. 11a 1027

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Births Jun 1930 (>99%)
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Partridge Raymond Phillips Merthyr T. 11a 1076

A POSSIBLE marriage, perhaps ?(there are others) for Kenneth;

Marriages Dec 1943 (>99%)
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Partridge Kenneth R Bartlett E.Glamorgan 11a 1634

Their possible offspring;

Births Dec 1948 (>99%)
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Partridge Jean D Bartlett E.Glamorgan 8b 395

(Wnyford's good lady perhaps?)

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Births Jun 1954 (>99%)
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Partridge Richard E Bartlett E. Glamorgan 8b 375

Bernice May Phillips b1902, 1911 Census (reply)

Jefff — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 12:29:32 +0000

From the 1911 Census:

I had thought this was our Bernice MAY Phillips,

Sydney Vines, Head abt 1869 42 Male Married 19yrs, Constable, Viney Hill, Gloucestershire, 98 Higher Cotswold Road, Upper Cotswold Rd, Bedminster.
Sarah Vines, Wife abt 1870, 41 Female, Married 19 yrs, 98 Higher Cotswold Road, Upper Cotswold Rd, Bedminster.
May Phillips, Boarder abt 1902, 9, Female, Yorkley, Gloucestershire, 98 Higher Cotswold Road, Upper Cotswold Rd, Bedminster.

HOWEVER I now find her still at Oldcroft :

Mr John Phillips Head, abt 1859, 52, Male Married Collier (hewer), West Dean Gloucestershire, England, Oldcroft Lydney Glos.
Mrs Eliza Phillips Wife, abt 1862, 49, Female Married East Dean Gloucestershire, England, Oldcroft, Lydney Glos.
Samuel Phillips Son, abt 1891, 20, Male Married Collier (hewer), West Dean Gloucestershire, England, Oldcroft Lydney Glos.
William Phillips Son, abt 1893, 18, Male Single Collier (hewer), West Dean Gloucestershire England, Oldcroft Lydney Glos.
Thomas Phillips Son, abt 1898, 13, Male School, West Dean Gloucestershire England, Oldcroft Lydney Glos.
Annie Phillips Daughter, abt 1895, 16, Female Single, West Dean Gloucestershire, England, Oldcroft Lydney Glos.
Burniee Phillips Daughter, abt 1903, 8, Female School, West Dean, Gloucestershire,England, Oldcroft Lydney Glos.

I suspect there is more than a coincidental link between these two households.

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Searching her later life is tricky due to spelling & name variations, but on FreeBMD I do find:

Surname Given Name District Volume Page Transcribers
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Births Sep 1902
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Phillips Burnes May Monmouth 11a 26 jenny690
Phillips Burnes May Monmouth 11a 26 abh

Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
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Marriages Dec 1920 (>99%)
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Partridge Henry Phillips Monmouth 11a 83
Phillips Berenice Partridge Monmouth 11a 83

Marriage also on GlosBMD:
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
PARTRIDGE Henry PHILLIPS Berenice Forest of Dean Monmouth Register Office 1920 29 61

As he doesn't appear to be have a middle name such as John or James, popular local Phillips names then judging from FreeBMD, I think this may be his Birth;
Surname Given Name District Volume Page Transcriber
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Births Sep 1897
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Partridge Henry Monmouth 11a 22 bfeatherstone

HOWEVER I cannot find him on the 1911 Census (sorry, dont have 1901 Access), is this him or "just" likely relatives ?

Henry Alie Partridge Head abt 1849 62 Male Married Labourer Droitwich add add 37 Cinderhill Street
Rachie Partridge Wife abt 1863 48 Female Married add Monmouthshire Wales 37 Cinderhill Street
James Henry Partridge Son abt 1888 23 Male Single add Monmouthshire Wales 37 Cinderhill Street
John Henry Partridge Son abt 1899 12 Male Single add Monmouthshire Wales 37 Cinderhill Street

Ancestry search page shows a Henry Partridge born Herefordshire abt 1895 in the 1901 Census but I cannot access further details, but from LDS:

name: Henry Partridge
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 6
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Llangrove
record type: Household
registration district: Ross
sub-district: St Weonards
ecclesiastical parish: Llangrove
civil parish: Llangarren
county: Herefordshire

Is this "our" Henry ???
Revisiting FreeBMD (althoNOT necessarily complete of course) for his "Herefordshire" roots, gets back to these possible births, so perhaps he did have a middle name ??

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
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Births Sep 1894 (>99%)
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Partridge Henry Charles Ross 6a 432

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Births Jun 1895 (>99%)
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Partridge Henry John S Newent 6a 267

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Births Sep 1897 (>99%)
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Partridge Henry Monmouth 11a 22

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Births Dec 1899 (>99%)
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PARTRIDGE Henry John Monmouth 11a 28

???????

Bernice PHILLIPS 1902 Oldcroft / Viney Hill (reply)

unknown — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:08:11 +0000

Slowhands, I came across your site by accident! However, I don't know if this may be of interest to you but Bernice Phillips was my wife's grandmother, her father was ronald partridge. Regards Wynford

John PHILLIPS 1857 Oldcroft / Viney Hill (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:07:58 +0000

1891
John Philips abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizth Philips abt 1861 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizth Eliza Philips abt 1886 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Emily Philips abt 1888 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Philips abt 1882 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Samuel John Philips abt 1890 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1881
Month: Aug
Day: 28
Grooms_Surname: PHILLIPS
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age: 21
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Oldcroft
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: PHILLIPS
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: TURLEY
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: Servant
Brides_Residence: Blakeney Hill
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Abraham Turley
Witness_2: Elizabeth Yemm
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: E S Smith
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P348 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 64
Parish_Chapel: Viney Hill

1881 Oldcroft
William Phillips abt 1825 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Phillips abt 1829 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Isaac Phillips abt 1863 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Phillips abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1871 Oldcroft
William Phillips 47
Am Phillips 48
Isaac Phillips 7
John Phillips 12
Mary Phillips 5
Samuel Phillips 15

1861
William Phillips abt 1824 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Phillips abt 1823 Yorkley Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Phillips abt 1861 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Phillips abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Phillips abt 1857 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mark Phillips abt 1853 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Samuel Phillips abt 1855 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Phillips abt 1844 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Phillips abt 1851 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

William Phillips 1890 (reply)

Maryvonne — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:22:08 +0000

Thank you for contacting me regarding William. How do you know this is the same one that I am looking for, would need this information before contacting your directly.

Maryvonne.

William PHILLIPS 1892 Oldcroft / Viney Hill (reply)

Maryvonne — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:18:36 +0000

Thank you for this information, it would seem to be the correct William and Bernice. This has helped me grately as I am trying to put together family tree through Genes Reunited.

Maryvonne

William Phillips 1890 (reply)

russ3238 — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 04:46:48 +0000

Williams grandparents weere William and Ann, they were my GG grandparents. If you wouldlike to get in touch we could exchange information.

Russ

William PHILLIPS 1892 Oldcroft / Viney Hill (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:49:26 +0000

Year: 1892
Month: Jul
Day: 10
Parents_Surname: PHILLIPS
Child_Forenames: William
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Oldcroft
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: E S Smith
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P348 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 82
Parish_Chapel: Viney Hill

1901
John Phillips abt 1858 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Phillips abt 1862 Blakeney; Hill, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Monmouthshire
Annie Phillips abt 1895 Oldcroft, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
Eliza Phillips abt 1886 Viney Hill, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
Emily Phillips abt 1888 Viney Hill, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
Samuel Phillips abt 1892 Oldcroft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Thomas Phillips abt 1898 Oldcroft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
William Phillips abt 1893 Oldcroft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean,

Bernice PHILLIPS 1902 Oldcroft / Viney Hill (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:48:10 +0000

1911 Oldcroft Lydney Gloucestershire
John Phillips 52
Eliza Phillips 49
Samuel Phillips 20
William Phillips 18
Thomas Phillips 13
Annie Phillips 16
Burniee Phillips 8

Year: 1902
Month: Aug
Day: 24
Parents_Surname: PHILLIPS
Child_Forenames: Florence Bernice May
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Oldcroft
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: Edward Roberts Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P348 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 18
Parish_Chapel: Viney Hill

William Phillips 1890

Maryvonne — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:06:55 +0000

Trying to trace any records on William Phillips who may have had a sister Bernice or Bernadette. William married Emily Lydiard from Blakeney in Glos. William worked in a stone quarry in East Dean/ Vinney Hill.