Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Too many Charles Gwilliam's

Too many Charles Gwilliam's (reply)

suzyQgwilliam — Mon, 09 Apr 2018 15:14:39 +0000

I know this an old thread, but it was interesting to see.
We have the inscription from the headstone of Charles Gwilliam D. 16 Dec
1826 & his wife Bridget died Jan 1827 as the heading on our family tree drawing.

"Here lyeth the body of a free and honest Nailer,
Who was for many years a Forest Gailer,
But now is gone and left it all behind,
In hope of some honest work to find."

I like the word "honest" nailer, as it ties in as a nice comment to other threads on here about the hard times nailers faced and the criminal records. Looks like the family of Charles wanted to show he hadn't commited any crimes?

Charles is not a relative definitely linked to my family tree, but my Grandpa was obviously very taken with the wording.

Timothy GWILLIAM 1843 Christchurch / Berry Hill -> PENN. (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 05:59:56 +0000

Year: 1843
Month: Mar
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: GWILLIAM
Child_Forenames: Timothy
Fathers_Forenames: Timothy
Mothers_Forenames: Eliza
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Christ Church
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: T.R. Garnsey
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 8212
Page_Number: 81
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch

1851 Christchurch
Timothy Gwilliam abt 1813 Berry Hill, Monmouthshire, Wales Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Gwilliam abt 1819 Berry Hill, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mara Gwilliam abt 1841 Berry Hill, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Milson Gwilliam abt 1846 Berry Hill, Monmouthshire, Wales Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Halford Gwilliam abt 1848 Berry Hill, Monmouthshire, Wales Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Timothy Gwilliam abt 1848 Berry Hill, Monmouthshire, Wales Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Gwilliam abt 1851 Berry Hill, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

1861
Timothy Gwilliam abt 1815 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mira Gwilliam abt 1841 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Timothy Gwilliam abt 1843 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Milson Gwilliam abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Alfred Gwilliam abt 1848 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Gwilliam abt 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Gwilliam abt 1854 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1880
Timothy Guillum Union, Allegheny, Pennsylvania abt 1843 England Self (Head)
Mary Guillum Union, Allegheny, Pennsylvania abt 1854 Pennsylvania Wife
Sarah Ann Guillum Union, Allegheny, Pennsylvania abt 1875 Pennsylvania Dau (Daughter)
James Guillum Union, Allegheny, Pennsylvania abt 1875 Pennsylvania Son
William Guillum Union, Allegheny, Pennsylvania abt 1877 Pennsylvania Son
Ella May Guillum Union, Allegheny, Pennsylvania abt 1879 Pennsylvania Dau (Daughter)

1890 destroyed

1900
Sarah Garlliaw [Sarah Gwilliam] name,
name city, Allegheny, Pennsylvania abt 1875 location relation
William Garlliaw name city, Allegheny, Pennsylvania abt 1878 location relation

Timothy GWILLIAM 1811 - 1885 Christchurch / Berry Hill (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 05:47:38 +0000

Year: 1811
Month: Jan
Day: 27
Parents_Surname: GWILLIAM
Child_Forenames: Timothy
Fathers_Forenames: Benn
Mothers_Forenames: Catharine
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Shortstanding
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 30
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

1841 Christchurch
Catherine Gwilliam abt 1771 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Timothy Gwilliam abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire Coal Miner
Eliza Gwilliam abt 1820 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mira Gwilliam abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1871
Timothy Guilliam 59
Hannah Guilliam 18

1881
Timothy Gwilliam abt 1811 CT Church, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Gwilliam abt 1855 CT Church, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1885
Month: Apr
Day: 25
Surname: GWILLIAM
Forenames: Timothy
Residence: Christ Church
Age_at_death: 74
Officiating_Minister: C.Barnes Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC82 IN 1/14
Page_No: 72
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch

Too many Charles Gwilliam's (reply)

shepway — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:00:24 +0000

You are on the right track!
Timothy b1811 married Eliza GWILLIAM daughter of James and Elizabeth GWILLIAM in 1840. Here is entry from BMD Index:
Marriages Mar 1840
GUILLIAM Eliza Monmouth 26 75
GUILLIAM Timothy Monmouth 26 75

I regret to say I do not have any more detail. This marriage is not listed in the Parish Records and is most likely to have taken place at a Register Office.

I was not aware that Timothy left these shores but explains the lack of information for him in my database.

Mike

Too many Charles Gwilliam's (reply)

miss coco — Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:02:45 +0000

I was reviewing messages on this site when I came across the name Charles Gwilliam married to Elizabeth Dotheridge. I have this Charles Gwilliam in my family tree as the father of John Gwilliam(b.1737) who was married to a Sarah Bennett. I also have Charles Gwilliam's parents listed as Charles Gwilliam and Mary Dalaway. I hope I have this correct. My mother was a Gwilliam, born in the USA as was her father James. Timothy Gwilliam (1843 in Berry Hill, West Dean) was his father. Timothy left for the USA around 1870. His parents, I believe were Timothy (b. 1811 or 1813 in West Dean) and Eliza [surname unknown]. I would like to know if I am on the right track and how I can find out the surname of Eliza Gwilliam.

I would greatly appreciate any help you can give me.
Thanks,
Emily

Too many Charles Gwilliam's (reply)

John Gwilliam — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:36:34 +0000

Hi Mike.

Nice to hear from you again. Thanks for the info. It ties exactly into my original thoughts. The missing link was with William and Charity.

John

Too many Charles Gwilliam's (reply)

shepway — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:47:54 +0000

It is some years since I carried out my research i.e. in the days when we visited the Record Office and consulted Parish Registers! This is what I have:
Charles Gwilliam born c 1748 married Bridget WOOD 17 April 1770 at Littledean.
He was buried 21 December 1878 and death date from Headstone is 16 December 1826
Bridget died 20 January 1827 and buried 22 January 1827.
I have this Charles as son of William and Charity and his baptism date is 7 August 1748 at Littledean.

Charles born 1793 and son of Charles and Elizabeth nee Dotheridge does not appear to have married. He did not leave a Will and Letters of Administration were granted to his brother John on 12 Feb 1794.

Hope this is of help.

Mike (Gwilliam)

Too many Charles Gwilliam's

John Gwilliam — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:41:07 +0000

After visiting Littledean's St Ethlberts church I have discovered an error in my tree. The information I had was that Charles Gwilliam, dob Jan 1743, some of Charles and Elizabeth Dotheridge died in 1793 (records at-first glance-could confirm this). However I am now under the belief that he married Bridget Wood in 1770, had 2 children and died in 1826. That leaves me with where did the Charles Gwilliam who died 1793 appear from and where he fits into the larger picture. Can anyone offer any help.

Many thanks
John Gwilliam