Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Samuel MARKS Welsh Bicknor & Birmingham connections

Samuel MARKS Welsh Bicknor & Birmingham connections (reply)

unknown — Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:00:39 +0000

Hi would anybody be able to research the forest dean Mercury concerning my Grans dog attack in 1930/31. It was a bad attack and it went the court for damages.
It happened in the Lydbrook area and her name was Mary Gertrude Marks, she would have been around 5 years old and i believe it was a neighbours dog. Im also curious to know if there were any articles concerning the court case.

Any help would be fantastic.....

Samuel MARKS Welsh Bicknor & Birmingham connections (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 06:49:55 +0000

Witton Cemetery has precise records on who is buried there and you have enough information to get a precise result. http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/witton-cemetery

Drop them a line at: e-mail: wittoncem AT birmingham.gov.uk, stating the name and year of death of the person you seek and they might be able to tell you the grave number and its location within the cemetery.

Samuel MARKS Welsh Bicknor & Birmingham connections (reply)

unknown — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 06:29:19 +0000

Hello Slowhands

Thanks for the details. I can now confirm a few things.

-He died in 1931 aged 43 - birth 1880
-His children were the ones you found Mary, Geoffrey and Dennis.
-Mary / my gan suffered a horrendous dog bite to the face exposing her skull and eye....She had to be carried to a doctors which was some way in Samuels arms. Samuel never recovered from this and took his own life in 1931 up in Birmingham.
-Going by an article from Harrybrook in the dean forest mercury "he was believed to be native to birmingham".
-Funeral at Witton Cemetery.

Again thank you all for your help, its a little tricky to carry out some of the research as i now live in Australia.

Samuel Marks born 1888 (reply)

unknown — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 06:14:07 +0000

Thanks again

The inquest was really helpful and i will start researching what i can from the article.

Samuel MARKS Welsh Bicknor & Birmingham connections (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 06:11:00 +0000

I wonder if this is him in 1911 -
Mrs Holbrough 7 Almshouse Street Monmouth, Monmouthshire

1911
HOLBROUGH HETTIE F 1866 45 Monmouth Monmouthshire
HOLBROUGH RICHARD WALTER M 1897 14 Monmouth Monmouthshire
MARKS SAMUEL M 1891 20 Monmouth Monmouthshire
CARTLEY JAMES MR M 1893 18 Monmouth Monmouthshire
FOLEY J T M 1890 21 Monmouth Monmouthshire
HALLAY JAMES DUNCAN M 1886 25 Monmouth Monmouthshire
JAMES EDWARD M 1883 28 Monmouth Monmouthshire
JUDTAM JONATHAN M 1875 36 Monmouth Monmouthshire
LLEWELLYN WILLIAM M 1894 17 Monmouth Monmouthshire

possible children :-
Geoffrey G Marks Jul-Aug-Sep 1923 Monmouth Wales
Mary G Marks Jan-Feb-Mar 1926 Monmouth Monmouthshire
Denis Marks Jul-Aug-Sep 1929 Monmouth Wales

Name: Samuel G Marks
Birth Date: abt 1888
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1931
Age at Death: 43
Registration district: Birmingham North
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 397

Given the Birmingham connection this might be him ( a little younger than believed)

Name: Sam Marks
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1891
Registration district: Aston
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 284

1901
Samuel Marks abt 1857 Bedminster, Somerset, England Head Aston, Warwickshire
Eliza Marks abt 1856 Birmingham Wife Aston, Warwickshire
Harriet Marks abt 1881 Birmingham Daughter Aston, Warwickshire
Annie Marks abt 1882 Birmingham Daughter Aston, Warwickshire
Susan Marks abt 1885 Birmingham Daughter Aston, Warwickshire
Edith Marks abt 1889 Birmingham Daughter Aston, Warwickshire
Sam Marks abt 1891 Birmingham Son Aston, Warwickshire
Frank Marks abt 1895 Birmingham Son Aston, Warwickshire

however this looks like this one in
1911
MARKS SAM M 1892 19 Aston Warwickshire

Samuel Marks born 1888 (reply)

unknown — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 12:16:04 +0000

Hi
Ref the address I think you will find that the correct address should read
WELSH BICKNOR.
May save you some false trails.
Happy Hunting

forester

Samuel Marks born 1888 (reply)

HarryBrook — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:34:01 +0000

The report on the inquest into the death of Samuel Marks was published in the Dean Forest Mercury on Friday September 18 1931. Have contacted reedyspur direct and will pass on a scan of the report from the microfilm archive at Cinderford Library.

Samuel Marks born 1888 (reply)

unknown — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:22:36 +0000

Hello Harry

Yes i have the death cert but unfortunately it doesn't give to much detail. I believe the suicide (cutting of throat - stated in death cert, still happened around Lydbrook but the body was taken to north Birmingham for the coroners report. His working address on the cert was "the old house, welsh wicnor, goodrich , herefordshire"

Do you know of any newspaper archives for this area? Thanks for you help......

Samuel Marks born 1888 (reply)

HarryBrook — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 19:26:49 +0000

The BMD death indexes lists a Samuel G. Marks as died Birmingham North, Warwickshire 1931 Q3 vol. 6D page 397. His age is given as 43, so born about 1888 as stated. There are no Samuel Marks listed as died in the Forest of Dean area registry districts in 1931 + or - 1 year. So it would appear he died in the Birmingham area?

Samuel Marks born 1888

unknown — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:22:41 +0000

Hello im researching my great grandfather Samuel Geoffrey Marks born 1888..... im not sure where he was born but i know he lived and worked in Lydbrook around 1920 to 1931. He worked in the colliery as a timberman in 1925 and also worked as a Bookmakers Agent in Goodrich / Lydbrook until 1931 when he committed suicide. He had two children to a Gertrude Roberts who was a barmaid in a pub in lydbrook.

Does anyone know if the are any archived newspapers from this region ? i maybe able to find more out about him, as the suicide would have been in local press. Im struggling to find anything about him and would appreciate any advice....

Thanks