Mary JAMES of Yorkley who died 2 April 1856 - talks about her Sons Charles, Thomas JAMES & Isaac JAMES - daughters Hannah - wife of Thomas WILLETTS and Sarah wife of John WILLETTS. One of the signatures below the Will is a Philip JAMES - you have a Philip JAMES son in your tree….

The other signatures were: Thomas MORGAN and Robert Mitdon?

Also mentioned is her brother-in-law, William CHARLES. Executors were John BEDDIS of the Nags Head Inn, Yorkley and James DAVIS Executors.

Assume this is Mary JAMES in previous thread with Charles and Isaac - think father was George - is this a relative of your Philip? They were certainly living near to your Thomas JAMES on the 1841 census. (George JAMES married Mary TINGLE - at English Bicknor - 1 September 1801 + Elizabeth TINGLE married William CHARLES at Newland 31 August 1807)

Sarah JAMES (Hundred of St Briavels, married John WILLETTS - 1835 - Newland
Hannah JAMES (Yorkley) married Thomas WILLETTS - 1843 - Lydney

(Mary's husband George - was buried at Parkend - 15 October 1832 age 74 - c1758 - residence SLADD - where Mary was living on the 1841 census)

The Will of Phillip JAMES (coal miner) of Awre in 1777 - is just an Inventory and a Bond - mentioning wife Mary…..

Who were the children of this Phillip & Mary ? and did two brothers, both give their children the father's name - as this could be a family name….. Fod records need checking….

Needs work- but don't think George & Mary had a son Philip - so who is Phillip….

Phillip JAMES is a direct ancestor of mine thro:-

Thomas JAMES = Mary VIRGO,,// Joseph JAMES = Eliza MORSE,, //Charles JAMES = Mary Ann JONES.

I'm stuck as to where to look next, outside of the box???

james

Checking for family names etc.

Phillip JAMES and Mary MARSHALL's children

Hannah 1791
Mary 1794
Thomas - 1796
Elizabeth 1798
John - 1798 (a John JAMES was witness at Thomas JAMES and Mary VIRGO's wedding
Charles - 1802

Looking at Public Members Tree on Ancestry

Thomas JAMES born 1796 married Mary VIRGO at Awre - 29 May 1823

On the 1851 Census, Oldcroft

JAMES

Thomas - 55 - born Glos Oldcroft
Mary - 52 - born Old Furance
Thomas - 24
Phillip - 18
Joseph -
Harriett - 10

a few doors away

Mary JAMES - Widow age 78 (=c1773) - born Glos Newland

1841 Census Oldcroft

Page 4 of 7

Thos. JAMES - 45, Collier, all born in County
Mary - 40
Thos - 14
Phillip - 8
Joseph - 8
William - 3
Harriet - 6 months

and on page 7 of 7

Sladd (Oldcroft either side)

(could be another Mary JAMES - possible husband George….)

Mary JAMES - 68 - all born in County
Charles - 30 - Collier
Isaac - 27 - Carpenter

Burial at Parkend - 15 October 1832 - George JAMES - age 74 (c1758) - residence : Sladd

?

Baptism at Hope Mansell - 7 June 1772

Mary MARSHALL - daughter of Thomas & Mary (couple of family names???)

residence: Hamlet of Newland

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Their 1st child could have been a Phillip JAMES bpt 26-05-1787 in Awre, on the bpt record no mothers surname has been recorded.

But the next child, Hannah JAMES bpt 27-11-1791 has the mothers surname as
nee)( MARSHALL spinster).as well as on the following records.

Mary JAMES bpt 18=05-1794
Thomas JAMES bpt 27-03-1796
John JAMES bpt 01-07-1798
Elizabeth JAMES bpt 01-07-1798 and
Charles JAMES bpt 26-09-1802 all bpt at Awre, the only marriage I can find relates to a Phillip JAMES who married a Mary WANKLYN on the 19-02-1787.

Could this marriage have been an out of the area one???

Many thanks, james ..