Was looking for possible relatives to my Elizabeth who were living in the Forest, and then suddenly the district of Yarmouth in Glous popped up and totally threw me!!

Thanks again

Simone x

James Curtis c 1796

Class: HO107; Piece: 351; Book: 4; Civil Parish: Yarmouth; County: Gloucestershire; Enumeration District: 2; ; Page: 4; Line: 4; GSU roll: 288764
district is Northleach, which I think is the Cotswolds?

nr Compton Abdale..........

•"YANWORTH, a chapelry and township in the parish of Hazleton, hundred of Bradley, county Gloucester, 3½ miles N.W. of Northleach, and 10 E. of Cheltenham. The village is situated on the Cotswold hills. The soil is stone brash. The living is a curacy annexed to Hazleton. The church, dedicated to St. Andrew, or St. Michael, is a chapel-of-ease to Hazleton."

[Description from The National Gazetteer of Great Britain and Ireland (1868) transcribed by Colin Hinson ©2003]

I have an Ancestor Elizabeth Powell nee Blanch who always states on census she was born Yarmouth...c 1803 ish...

1851 census at East Dean
HO107; Piece: 1959; Folio: 224; Page: 21

I was thinking Yarmouth, Norfolk or even I.O.W maybe?

There is an Edward Blanch living at Coleford in 1871, he was born c 1788, birthplace given as Norfolk, Yarmouth (transcribed as Garmouth)

RG10; Piece: 5298; Folio: 58; Page: 3

looking at census for people born in Yarmouth but living in Forest I came across a couple of entries that have Yarmouth as the civil parish..
one being in 1841

James Curtis c 1796

Class: HO107; Piece: 351; Book: 4; Civil Parish: Yarmouth; County: Gloucestershire; Enumeration District: 2; ; Page: 4; Line: 4; GSU roll: 288764
district is Northleach, which I think is the Cotswolds?

I've not been able to pinpoint my Elizabeth as definitely from Norfolk.. and I never heard of a Yarmouth in Glous..

Just wondering if some confusion at enumeration and these people could really come from Glous?

Am I making sense? Opinions appreciated :)

Simone x

Like you said just ideas, but certainly worth considering.

I think I shall try and get some of the parish records for possible entries I have found, occupations may give clues. I had another family like this who followed the potteries to Stafforshire, Derbyshire, Liverpool, took me ages to sort out but got there in the end, so fingers crossed.

Thanks again for all your help.

Simone x

Middlesex seems to be the common thread in his young days, Surrey / Middlesex and "london" boundaries would meet in the area of Battersea / Clapham.

However Bethnal Green is across London - not far but still distinct to avoid confusion with Battersea.

Now if Battersea turns out to be Bermondsey, then Walworth comes to mind.

Walworth (spoken in a south London accent) to a Gloucestershire enumerator, would he or she know about Walworth ? - would they assume he had said Yarmouth - just guesses at the moment.

Now the other consideration is the Whitecliff Pottery. There happens to be a Pottery tradition in Lambeth / Walworth South London. In fact Doulton of Royal Doulton fame is associated with the Lambeth Pottery, so is Yarmouth a mis-understanding of Lambeth ?? I can almost hear an accented Lambeth become Yarmouth.

At the end of the day its just an idea....

<update>
In Lambeth's Cemetry Database
Grave number: 5230-111
Grave Owner: Harriett Jane Blanch
Address: 23, Merrick Square, Dover Road, Surrey
Original Burial: 1857
Last Burial: 1881
Deceased:
Gustavus William Blanch buried in 1857
Harriett Jane Blanch buried in 1881

Going back to the possible London/Yarmouth connections for my Blanch Family- and bearing in mind that Susan b London c 1766 on the census could possibly be mother to my Elizabeth b Yarmouth, and Edward b Yarmouth, Battersey,or Bethnal Green!!

I have found on the IGI

2 children b at Yarmouth to Thomas Blanch and Susanna Walpole,
Susanna baptised 5/1/1798, Sarah baptised 15/5/1796 both baptised at St Nicholas, Gt Yarmouth
Strangley there is another Susanna <Blanch> (what do the funny brackets mean?)baptised the same date as the Yarmouth one, 5/1/1798 to Thomas Blanch and Susanna Walpole at Earsdon by North Shields, Northumberland!!

I then found this marriage-

THOMAS BLANCH m Susannah Worpole at Clapham, Surrey 19/7/1793-

So bearing in mind what we have already found on census concerning Edward and Elizabeth, would Clapham be the right area for this couple to have married?

The date is good for then to have started having children a couple of years later-

What on earth does the Northumberland entry mean? Was this family hopping baout from one county to the other, but then you wouldn't baptise a child twice surely. Or could that entry just be coincidence.

Someones pulling my leg I think!